catherine hopps, fan character, and nick wilde (zootopia and etc) created by siroc
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    Bun-Bun

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    remex_fuwwy said:
    Place your bets people, quick quick before a page is made of the results

    A'right I'll place one in the ring.
    Judy knows how *forward* her relatives can be, would be upset with him, but let it pass and/or join in. That is to assume porn logic over pure storytelling here.

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    Just-Some-Guy

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    So with the "like a maze" layout of the house, taking bets that after he fucks Catherine Nick leaves and accidentally slips into another sister's room instead of Judy's

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    rva98014

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    stormygem said:
    If you had a girlfriend and had the chance to fuck her sister, would you wear a condom? What if she gets pregnant? Sounds awkward, right?

    Despite his great artwork, one annoying thing about Siroc's Zootopia stories is the lack of consistent rules regarding pregnancy. For example, in his story between Judy & Finnick, foxes can't get bunnies pregnant. But in his Nick & Mrs. Otterton story, hybrid children are possible.

    So every time he puts out a new story we gotta waste time wondering if the hookup on display has the risk of pregnancy or not. This story has been going on for awhile now and finally we get a clue on the rules given that Nick is concerned about his lack of condoms.

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    kane fox paws

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    rva98014 said:
    Despite his great artwork, one annoying thing about Siroc's Zootopia stories is the lack of consistent rules regarding pregnancy. For example, in his story between Judy & Finnick, foxes can't get bunnies pregnant. But in his Nick & Mrs. Otterton story, hybrid children are possible.

    So every time he puts out a new story we gotta waste time wondering if the hookup on display has the risk of pregnancy or not. This story has been going on for awhile now and finally we get a clue on the rules given that Nick is concerned about his lack of condoms.

    Man! Maybe they are all different time lines. Or maybe it just didn't take with Finnick and Judy, hell man stop reading so much -into- what the world is about and enjoy the porn! Holy hell I came to coom, not to think! I see a hot bunny being plowed by a fox not "man i hope judy isn't pregnant by finnick that might cause a rift between Nick and them" while said Nick is plowing Judys sister.

    Its porn man!

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    FantasiIFrittFall

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    rva98014 said:
    Despite his great artwork, one annoying thing about Siroc's Zootopia stories is the lack of consistent rules regarding pregnancy. For example, in his story between Judy & Finnick, foxes can't get bunnies pregnant. But in his Nick & Mrs. Otterton story, hybrid children are possible.

    So every time he puts out a new story we gotta waste time wondering if the hookup on display has the risk of pregnancy or not. This story has been going on for awhile now and finally we get a clue on the rules given that Nick is concerned about his lack of condoms.

    A fox and an otter having offspring is far more plausible than a fox and a bunny having offspring. And even when it has been stated earlier that foxes and bunnies can apparently not have offspring together, that does not mean there's not the rare chance that they can still do just that.

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    Researching

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    fantasiifrittfall said:
    A fox and an otter having offspring is far more plausible than a fox and a bunny having offspring. And even when it has been stated earlier that foxes and bunnies can apparently not have offspring together, that does not mean there's not the rare chance that they can still do just that.

    Maybe. But I basically see this as a convenient foreshadowing/setup for some backdooring. If you know what I mean.
    Deliveries in the rear don't count, unless rabbit physiology is far more complicated than I thought.

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    rva98014

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    fantasiifrittfall said:
    A fox and an otter having offspring is far more plausible than a fox and a bunny having offspring. And even when it has been stated earlier that foxes and bunnies can apparently not have offspring together, that does not mean there's not the rare chance that they can still do just that.

    Fox/otter offspring is not plausible due to Zoology, Biology, Genetics and Evolution. A fox and bunny or fox and otter are too far separated on the zoological tree to ever have offspring except by divine intervention.

    In terms of story, "Backseat Bargin" had Finnick coerce Judy into sex in exchange for Nick's location. Finnick deliberately uses the fact that he can't get her pregnant as one of the reasons they should fuck because there's no risk and Nick will never know.

    Given the whole story was set up to be one big "anger fuck", there's no reason for Judy to even consider unprotected sex with Finnick unless there was no risk at all in that story's universe.

    But finally, this is porn fan-fiction. In his world, Siroc can have foxes screw turtles and produce off-spring for all I care.

    My criticism was and still is that Siroc plays fast and loose with the rules of getting pregnant from story to story so there's no consistency.

    However, given that he likes to do stories about "cheating", then it makes a big difference if there's any risk of pregnancy between the cheaters, but we often don't find that out until Siroc remembers to fill us in that yes, in this story, fox+rabbit = offspring.

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    Dostri

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    mrcrowely said:
    How can he cheat on Mrs Otterton like this? :O Has he no shame?

    He's a lying cunt and she's a now-divorced slut. You're expecting too much out of characters in a siroc comic.

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    FantasiIFrittFall

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    rva98014 said:
    Fox/otter offspring is not plausible due to Zoology, Biology, Genetics and Evolution. A fox and bunny or fox and otter are too far separated on the zoological tree to ever have offspring except by divine intervention.

    In terms of story, "Backseat Bargin" had Finnick coerce Judy into sex in exchange for Nick's location. Finnick deliberately uses the fact that he can't get her pregnant as one of the reasons they should fuck because there's no risk and Nick will never know.

    Given the whole story was set up to be one big "anger fuck", there's no reason for Judy to even consider unprotected sex with Finnick unless there was no risk at all in that story's universe.

    But finally, this is porn fan-fiction. In his world, Siroc can have foxes screw turtles and produce off-spring for all I care.

    My criticism was and still is that Siroc plays fast and loose with the rules of getting pregnant from story to story so there's no consistency.

    However, given that he likes to do stories about "cheating", then it makes a big difference if there's any risk of pregnancy between the cheaters, but we often don't find that out until Siroc remembers to fill us in that yes, in this story, fox+rabbit = offspring.

    Evolution also says that mammals of all species walking around on their hinds and sporting human-like intelligence should not occur either.

    Real life laws of genetics does not apply here, which is what we have to keep in mind here.

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    rva98014

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    fantasiifrittfall said:
    Real life laws of genetics does not apply here, which is what we have to keep in mind here.

    This was the crux of my criticism. Not about Siroc being sketchy with the genetics, but about Siroc being a weak story-teller and yes, porn fan-fiction is still storytelling.

    It really helps to have some basic consistency between your stories set in the same fan-fiction world, but if you're gonna be changing the rules of who can get what pregnant, then it really helps to give readers a heads-up early in the story.

    Instead of 12 pages in where Nick worrying about condoms finally gives the reader a clue that in this story... yes, fox + bunnies = funnies so there's a definite risk if Nick and Catherine do more than foot play or oral sex.

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    Durra

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    rva98014 said:
    It really helps to have some basic consistency between your stories set in the same fan-fiction world, but if you're gonna be changing the rules of who can get what pregnant, then it really helps to give readers a heads-up early in the story.

    You're assuming that Siroc's stories are set in the same fan-fiction world, but they're not. Some of his stories have Nick and Judy hooked up, some of the have them always having been single, some stories have Judy be a virgin (until that story's events, at least), some have her be very experienced, etc. Unless pointed out within the story itself that the events of another one happened, each story of his is completely separate and not canon to each other.

    There's nothing wrong with that, and it gives Siroc much greater freedom in creating each new comic if he's not restricted to how the world works or how the characters' situations are established in previously established stories.

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    rva98014

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    durra said:
    There's nothing wrong with that, and it gives Siroc much greater freedom in creating each new comic if he's not restricted to how the world works or how the characters' situations are established in previously established stories.

    There is nothing inherently wrong with starting every story fresh.

    In the hands of an experienced writer, such an approach can provide considerable freedom in story-telling as you point out.

    However, for a weak writer it allows for rather lazy story-telling. You never have to face the consequences of a poor story design and it encourages dropping a story altogether which is what seems to have happened with "Operation Housecall" which is 5 months and counting for some kind of resolution to that cliffhanger.

    Obviously, you're not bothered by Siroc's writing, which is understandable as he's a good artist.

    I'm just expressing my opinion that it's tiresome to face each new webcomic back at square one with regard to what rules apply.

    It doesn't really feel like anything is gained by having no restrictions in your storytelling if you keep coming back to the same basic formula... in all of Siroc's Zootopia stories, someone basically behaves like a real jerkass and someone is going to be cheated on.

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    Sirocrates

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    rva98014 said:
    There is nothing inherently wrong with starting every story fresh.

    In the hands of an experienced writer, such an approach can provide considerable freedom in story-telling as you point out.

    However, for a weak writer it allows for rather lazy story-telling. You never have to face the consequences of a poor story design and it encourages dropping a story altogether which is what seems to have happened with "Operation Housecall" which is 5 months and counting for some kind of resolution to that cliffhanger.

    Obviously, you're not bothered by Siroc's writing, which is understandable as he's a good artist.

    I'm just expressing my opinion that it's tiresome to face each new webcomic back at square one with regard to what rules apply.

    It doesn't really feel like anything is gained by having no restrictions in your storytelling if you keep coming back to the same basic formula... in all of Siroc's Zootopia stories, someone basically behaves like a real jerkass and someone is going to be cheated on.

    on god?

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