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god i love narrative callbacks

i had to re-read that a few time to get to the point i 1st was thinking of teh back of the SUV :D

Busted... XD

I didn't know this comic could get up dates more than once a month

"Don't think I didn't notice what sold you on the car"

Hilde finally came out and told Adrian how she felt, it's not surprising that she'd also be looking for "future" spots to enjoy her company

But "fuck space" is important!

This story is so real though.

The dialogue and Adrian's mindset following abuse is spot on.
God, I love it when authors represent such themes realistically.

I wanna see em' fuck in the back of this van

Adrian's internal conflict in this series works so much. This conflict is one I've never really seen played out in any sort of story, and quite frankly, it is one I can relate with to a degree, driving in the story even further.

Nice

I don't really know if I should follow this comic.

=(.

In the forum, someone asked something about this comic, and I was going to say something... but then I was not sure, and REREAD from the begining almost all of it.

My direct question:

" Would you say that this comic is blatantly (a.) anti-religious, (b.) anti-heterosexual males? "

If so, in any of the departments, I will simply vanish away to my safe-space in E6.... if not, and you like, elaborate.

(The funny thing, is that I am myself atheist... but I cannot see it pushed in other peoples throats.).

I could say that this comic is very, very borderline to me...

mexicanfurry said:
My direct question:

" Would you say that this comic is blatantly (a.) anti-religious, (b.) anti-heterosexual males? "

As to (b), definitely not. I don't think that makes sense when you consider the rest of the work the author has created.

As to (a)... I don't think so? In this comic we see some of the negative aspects of religion play out, true, but I haven't gotten the vibe that it is trying to condemn all religion. The comic overall is trying to have some realistic sources of conflict and trauma and disagreement in it, and religion can be one of those sources of conflict between people. I think anyone would agree to that, religious or non.

clawdragons said:
As to (b), definitely not. I don't think that makes sense when you consider the rest of the work the author has created.

As to (a)... I don't think so? In this comic we see some of the negative aspects of religion play out, true, but I haven't gotten the vibe that it is trying to condemn all religion. The comic overall is trying to have some realistic sources of conflict and trauma and disagreement in it, and religion can be one of those sources of conflict between people. I think anyone would agree to that, religious or non.

OK... thanks for the input, @Clawdragons.

mexicanfurry said:
OK... thanks for the input, @Clawdragons.

If it's making you uncomfortable though, it doesn't have to be for any particular reason, don't feel pressured by anyone to continue reading. Often times you just get a bad vibe, and if that's the case, go with your gut!

Rereading what I wrote, I feel like it might have come off as dismissive of your concerns, and that wasn't my intent. I apologize.

mexicanfurry said:
I don't really know if I should follow this comic.

=(.

In the forum, someone asked something about this comic, and I was going to say something... but then I was not sure, and REREAD from the begining almost all of it.

My direct question:

" Would you say that this comic is blatantly (a.) anti-religious, (b.) anti-heterosexual males? "

If so, in any of the departments, I will simply vanish away to my safe-space in E6.... if not, and you like, elaborate.

(The funny thing, is that I am myself atheist... but I cannot see it pushed in other peoples throats.).

I could say that this comic is very, very borderline to me...

Focusing on a: This is a comic that deals in various themes, such as coping with abuse, single parenthood, what a relationship means, and so on. As far as religion goes, the religious part itself isn't damning. The author actually fleshes out a stereotypical bible thumper into someone who's likable, without dragging them through the mud. So no, it isn't anti-religion.

Focusing on b: Not really. Adrian is basically the main character, with Hilde offering support as best she can. There's no blatant man hating or misandry, no heterosexuality is inferior narratives, but the girls do have their opinions and experiences. One is just full on lesbian but has guy friends, and the other had a bad run in life.

I do recommend giving this comic a try from the start, and if it doesn't click, it doesn't click, simple as.

mexicanfurry said:
I don't really know if I should follow this comic.

=(.

In the forum, someone asked something about this comic, and I was going to say something... but then I was not sure, and REREAD from the begining almost all of it.

My direct question:

" Would you say that this comic is blatantly (a.) anti-religious, (b.) anti-heterosexual males? "

If so, in any of the departments, I will simply vanish away to my safe-space in E6.... if not, and you like, elaborate.

(The funny thing, is that I am myself atheist... but I cannot see it pushed in other peoples throats.).

I could say that this comic is very, very borderline to me...

I did get a similar "this is just outright hating on Christianity" vibe. Not "all religions" or "religion in general" but specifically Christianity. But that may be simply because that was the religion being presented via an obnoxiously judgmental and tone-deaf character. Still, it did not sit well with me at all. Felt like a lot of "cheap shots" being thrown out there and a lot of implied "and this is how they ALL are so don't even think of having these people in your life" vibes. But maybe I read too much into it. I tend to overthink things.

Like how Adrian is all "I got out of an abusive relationship and I'm not ready to even think about another relationship" one minute and then "oh, I'm totally up for a relationship if it's with a GIRL, though" the next. That part, to me, may be giving off some of the vibes you picked up on that feel somewhat "anti-male/anti-heterosexuality" by proxy. Adrian gives absolutely no consideration to dating another guy, and gets extremely angry at the "bible-thumper" for asking about introducing her to single men in her church (which, in my opinion, should read as "I want to find you a guy whose core system of beliefs runs firmly AGAINST the kind of shit you've been put through so you NEVER have to go through that again" but was instead presented as "nosy busy-body church person being obnoxious, insensitive, and trying to shove all their ideas down everyone's throats").

So yea, I can totally see where you'd get these vibes from. They're definitely there. I just don't know if either of these were intentional "underlying messages" or just a matter of coincidence.

vallahd said:
Focusing on a: This is a comic that deals in various themes, such as coping with abuse, single parenthood, what a relationship means, and so on. As far as religion goes, the religious part itself isn't damning. The author actually fleshes out a stereotypical bible thumper into someone who's likable, without dragging them through the mud. So no, it isn't anti-religion.

Yea, but did she "become someone who's likable" because her character and position were fleshed out and given more depth, exploring why she wanted to hook Adrian up with a "good church guy" or her "prickly-ness" around Hilde, or was it because of the whole "and in college she experimented with women and seems vulnerable to temptation so maybe she'll get seduced into a hot lesbian sex scene in a later chapter?"

There are definitely "vibes" in this particular story, I just don't know if they're intentional or just "an unfortunate side-effect."

Thank you for the input of all of you.

I will read and re-read what you write, and reflect on it.

Maybe I will include this comic in my regular searches. Maybe I was looking at it with "prejudized", undully judgmental, eyes.

Thank you again.

Yo are they in a Rav4??? That back looks so familiar, amazing detail!