garret and russel created by pickles-hyena
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  • This is interesting to me. From a phycological standpoint, if Russ does what he wants, then he
    Has a severe degradation kink, to the point of willingly letting himself be treated as worthless. But on the other hand, I want Garret to choke and die.

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  • I haven't read this comic yet but why is everyone hating on this garret dude? Can i get some context for all the hate?

    Update: i just read the entire comic and oh boy he needs to be burned alive

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  • I cannot think of a death that is brutal enough or fitting enough for Garrett - all of them end too quickly with him bleeding out. He needs to suffer.

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  • justignoremynameplz said:
    I haven't read this comic yet but why is everyone hating on this garret dude? Can i get some context for all the hate?

    Everyone is hating on Garret because he as a character is a weird, manipulative asshole that wants to fuck his nephew Russel.

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  • Seeing as this is something this artist has drawn many times (or situations similar) I doubt garret will face any repercussions soon or even at all, which is a shame but not unexpected

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  • justignoremynameplz said:
    I haven't read this comic yet but why is everyone hating on this garret dude? Can i get some context for all the hate?

    First off...just read the comic...you'll understand.

    As I've said for a long time...you have to get to really know someone, to hate them properly (meaning, for the right reasons).

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  • Is this the page when people following the comic for the incest porn realised the abuse drama is there for kink and not merely for narrative spice?

    Pickles, I know this isn't your first downvote-rodeo, and that the relationships in this series have always been depicted as abusive, but people see the tamer end as a bit of light drama. If the plot goes any deeper in this direction you've likely JasonAfex'd your comic.

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  • x_kimba_x said:
    I hate this guy with every inch of my heart, but I love the realistic depiction of abusive behavior

    I would not describe anything in this story as realistic exactly lmao 🤣

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  • magnuseffect said:
    Is this the page when people following the comic for the incest porn realised the abuse drama is there for kink and not merely for narrative spice?

    Pickles, I know this isn't your first downvote-rodeo, and that the relationships in this series have always been depicted as abusive, but people see the tamer end as a bit of light drama. If the plot goes any deeper in this direction you've likely JasonAfex'd your comic.

    Ah shit, those last 5 words hit hard.

    I'll be honest I didn't do a write up beforehand or really have any experience with story writing or making comics and kinda fucked up a while ago with the writing direction and I've been back and forth on whether i wanted this to be a serious comic or a porn comic. I kinda switch between different mindsets every few weeks whether I want it to be a fun porn comic or something grounded in reality or if I want it to be a character piece or a way to experiment with storytelling or whatever but it's been getting really hard to write this in a way that makes sense. I don't really like answering comments in a way that can change how people interpret the story. I lose faith in ideas or overthink things or change stuff last minute because of feedback or just draw stuff while I'm in a bad place for a bit. I figured working month on and month off would mitigate issues from that but it appears to have not worked.

    The next 20 or so pages are finished but I'm in the process of rewriting a lot of future character interactions. I don't want to be another artist that drops out on a comic halfway through but I don't know how to like, change the tone of the comic around in a quick way without making it turn stupid or (more) unbelievable. I want to say that the long term story of the plot is worthwhile but at the rate this gets completed it's going to be another couple hundred pages. I tend to just naturally lean into drawing more mean spirited content but this is just upsetting a lot of people in a cheap way and I'm not really happy about it.

    I dunno, either keep reading it, wait a few months and come back or just stop reading it.

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  • I hate this guy yet, I find this kinda hot; Help I think somethings wrong with me.

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  • pickles-hyena said:
    Ah shit, those last 5 words hit hard.

    I'll be honest I didn't do a write up beforehand or really have any experience with story writing or making comics and kinda fucked up a while ago with the writing direction and I've been back and forth on whether i wanted this to be a serious comic or a porn comic. I kinda switch between different mindsets every few weeks whether I want it to be a fun porn comic or something grounded in reality or if I want it to be a character piece or a way to experiment with storytelling or whatever but it's been getting really hard to write this in a way that makes sense. I don't really like answering comments in a way that can change how people interpret the story. I lose faith in ideas or overthink things or change stuff last minute because of feedback or just draw stuff while I'm in a bad place for a bit. I figured working month on and month off would mitigate issues from that but it appears to have not worked.

    The next 20 or so pages are finished but I'm in the process of rewriting a lot of future character interactions. I don't want to be another artist that drops out on a comic halfway through but I don't know how to like, change the tone of the comic around in a quick way without making it turn stupid or (more) unbelievable. I want to say that the long term story of the plot is worthwhile but at the rate this gets completed it's going to be another couple hundred pages. I tend to just naturally lean into drawing more mean spirited content but this is just upsetting a lot of people in a cheap way and I'm not really happy about it.

    I dunno, either keep reading it, wait a few months and come back or just stop reading it.

    I see what you tryna doing . I like to compare this comic from the beginning to now . The storytelling and artform had improved massively. You are the master of their faith and if someone doesn't like it than they can ride a d.

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  • pickles-hyena said:
    Ah shit, those last 5 words hit hard.

    I'll be honest I didn't do a write up beforehand or really have any experience with story writing or making comics and kinda fucked up a while ago with the writing direction and I've been back and forth on whether i wanted this to be a serious comic or a porn comic. I kinda switch between different mindsets every few weeks whether I want it to be a fun porn comic or something grounded in reality or if I want it to be a character piece or a way to experiment with storytelling or whatever but it's been getting really hard to write this in a way that makes sense. I don't really like answering comments in a way that can change how people interpret the story. I lose faith in ideas or overthink things or change stuff last minute because of feedback or just draw stuff while I'm in a bad place for a bit. I figured working month on and month off would mitigate issues from that but it appears to have not worked.

    The next 20 or so pages are finished but I'm in the process of rewriting a lot of future character interactions. I don't want to be another artist that drops out on a comic halfway through but I don't know how to like, change the tone of the comic around in a quick way without making it turn stupid or (more) unbelievable. I want to say that the long term story of the plot is worthwhile but at the rate this gets completed it's going to be another couple hundred pages. I tend to just naturally lean into drawing more mean spirited content but this is just upsetting a lot of people in a cheap way and I'm not really happy about it.

    I dunno, either keep reading it, wait a few months and come back or just stop reading it.

    i get that, the only story telling i dabbled in is just a mental story of my character, my way of story crafting is mostly just taking inside jokes and seeing if i can mold them into serious story elements, i came for Percy and his dad fucking, but you got me hooked, even if i don't like some the the directions this comic goes in i'm here for it, keep doing the best you can, just don't burn yourself out ^w^

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  • gonna be honest, dont understand the downvotes, its a porn comic. this kinda behavior (atleast in fiction or in consensual situations) is really just a kink and honestly i dont see much of an issue with the direction the comic is going, its kinda been building up to this for quite a while and im not gonna lie the dialogue in this between most of the characters feels pretty good, it doesnt feel lazy or too fake, and unironically im invested in the story. if people dont like manipulative characters they should have stopped reading this comic quite a while ago. im surprised this was even downvoted at all. i mean yes each to their own but geez people are being pretty harsh about a semi-plot focused nsfw comic. anyway, i look forward to the next pages ive been enjoying reading the story for quite a while and appreciate some of the more abstract elements of the story, i think they are really unique.

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  • megafurry said:
    gonna be honest, dont understand the downvotes, its a porn comic. this kinda behavior (atleast in fiction or in consensual situations) is really just a kink and honestly i dont see much of an issue with the direction the comic is going, .... i mean yes each to their own but geez people are being pretty harsh about a semi-plot focused nsfw comic.

    The thing is: at the moment this comic rides on the very thin line between "normal" porn comic and one of those.. how'd I put it.. "messed up" ones. At the moment, certain characters and actions are already crossing that line quite aggressively - thus the downvotes. OFC this is still pretty mild if you 'are' into the really messed up side of kinks. But if you were drawn here by the more "lighthearted" parts of the comic, you can easily understand why the outrage is rising. Hell, even I feel somewhat troubled by the mind-games Garret is doing with Russ and I have tendency to appreciate these.. more extreme.. mental domination/breaking things. Maybe Garret is being a bit "too real" for the story to keep up the illusion of fiction? Who knows. All we can do is to see where this goes.

    And hey Pickles-Hyena - I know this prolly doesn't help at all but try to keep your (next) goal in sight. Try to not let downvotes or outrage to weigh you down too much. You know these characters, what makes them tick. You know how the story is supposed to be going - and you can also work out where it could go in the future. At the moment people want revenge on Garret BUT we (I hope) know there rarely is a quick, if at all, redemption for what appears as manipulative asshole characters like him so.. Don't force it. You said it yourself, changing the tone fast would just make it all dumb. Payout (or payback) is a payout even if it's a long ways away!

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  • makapaa said:
    The thing is: at the moment this comic rides on the very thin line between "normal" porn comic and one of those.. how'd I put it.. "messed up" ones. At the moment, certain characters and actions are already crossing that line quite aggressively - thus the downvotes. OFC this is still pretty mild if you 'are' into the really messed up side of kinks. But if you were drawn here by the more "lighthearted" parts of the comic, you can easily understand why the outrage is rising. Hell, even I feel somewhat troubled by the mind-games Garret is doing with Russ and I have tendency to appreciate these.. more extreme.. mental domination/breaking things. Maybe Garret is being a bit "too real" for the story to keep up the illusion of fiction? Who knows. All we can do is to see where this goes.

    And hey Pickles-Hyena - I know this prolly doesn't help at all but try to keep your (next) goal in sight. Try to not let downvotes or outrage to weigh you down too much. You know these characters, what makes them tick. You know how the story is supposed to be going - and you can also work out where it could go in the future. At the moment people want revenge on Garret BUT we (I hope) know there rarely is a quick, if at all, redemption for what appears as manipulative asshole characters like him so.. Don't force it. You said it yourself, changing the tone fast would just make it all dumb. Payout (or payback) is a payout even if it's a long ways away!

    It's because Of the narcissism & The context of situation as well but remember alot of who views E621 & Other websites some of the viewers are Victims of narcissism meaning they were abused by a narcissist i am 1 of those victims that is why this gets a down vote by me but as said this is a very Serious Matter that happens way too much that is why the down votes

    Edit remember a Narcissist views everyone & everything around them As Objects they do not care about friends, family, Or anyone at all if you are Around a narcissist Please report any crimes they Have done to the cops & Or Get away if you stay around a narcissist you will Die or worst if you are a victim of a Narcissist Please get all the help you need or want & if you are a narcissist reading this FUCK YOU!!! & You will not get away with the abuse Your doing Alive or dead

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  • makapaa said:
    The thing is: at the moment this comic rides on the very thin line between "normal" porn comic and one of those.. how'd I put it.. "messed up" ones. At the moment, certain characters and actions are already crossing that line quite aggressively - thus the downvotes. OFC this is still pretty mild if you 'are' into the really messed up side of kinks. But if you were drawn here by the more "lighthearted" parts of the comic, you can easily understand why the outrage is rising. Hell, even I feel somewhat troubled by the mind-games Garret is doing with Russ and I have tendency to appreciate these.. more extreme.. mental domination/breaking things. Maybe Garret is being a bit "too real" for the story to keep up the illusion of fiction? Who knows. All we can do is to see where this goes.

    And hey Pickles-Hyena - I know this prolly doesn't help at all but try to keep your (next) goal in sight. Try to not let downvotes or outrage to weigh you down too much. You know these characters, what makes them tick. You know how the story is supposed to be going - and you can also work out where it could go in the future. At the moment people want revenge on Garret BUT we (I hope) know there rarely is a quick, if at all, redemption for what appears as manipulative asshole characters like him so.. Don't force it. You said it yourself, changing the tone fast would just make it all dumb. Payout (or payback) is a payout even if it's a long ways away!

    There is no redemption nor forgiveness for Narcissism but i understand where you are getting at & why but know that something must be done about narcissism or more people will end up Hurt, tortured, Or Killed

    & I'm sorry to make this comment but i will not stand for narcissism in anyway & i Could not just walk away & say nothing narcissism is unacceptable by any reasons or means

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  • magnuseffect said:
    Is this the page when people following the comic for the incest porn realised the abuse drama is there for kink and not merely for narrative spice?

    Pickles, I know this isn't your first downvote-rodeo, and that the relationships in this series have always been depicted as abusive, but people see the tamer end as a bit of light drama. If the plot goes any deeper in this direction you've likely JasonAfex'd your comic.

    What happened to Jasonafex? Idk why but my brain thought that was the name of a completely different incest artist and that comic suddenly got "serious" (the one with the futa snake mom incest, cant remember the name).

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  • pickles-hyena said:
    Ah shit, those last 5 words hit hard.

    I'll be honest I didn't do a write up beforehand or really have any experience with story writing or making comics and kinda fucked up a while ago with the writing direction and I've been back and forth on whether i wanted this to be a serious comic or a porn comic. I kinda switch between different mindsets every few weeks whether I want it to be a fun porn comic or something grounded in reality or if I want it to be a character piece or a way to experiment with storytelling or whatever but it's been getting really hard to write this in a way that makes sense. I don't really like answering comments in a way that can change how people interpret the story. I lose faith in ideas or overthink things or change stuff last minute because of feedback or just draw stuff while I'm in a bad place for a bit. I figured working month on and month off would mitigate issues from that but it appears to have not worked.

    The next 20 or so pages are finished but I'm in the process of rewriting a lot of future character interactions. I don't want to be another artist that drops out on a comic halfway through but I don't know how to like, change the tone of the comic around in a quick way without making it turn stupid or (more) unbelievable. I want to say that the long term story of the plot is worthwhile but at the rate this gets completed it's going to be another couple hundred pages. I tend to just naturally lean into drawing more mean spirited content but this is just upsetting a lot of people in a cheap way and I'm not really happy about it.

    I dunno, either keep reading it, wait a few months and come back or just stop reading it.

    You could always pull a shonen and retcon half way through?

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  • Damn, the artist did such a good job writing an incredibly hateable character that people started downvoting the comic just because they hate him that much. Crazy.

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