While I like the idea of tgirl zhali very much, the character is a herm/dickgirl

greens said:
While I like the idea of tgirl zhali very much, the character is a herm

There's very few images where Zhali has both sets of genitals, and none of those were made by Dia

smuglytherat said:
There's very few images where Zhali has both sets of genitals, and none of those were made by Dia

Okay? A character not having both sets doesn't make them trans. I recently read zhali's fa page and she explicitly labels her character (in that page at least) as a herm. Trans is a lore tag, so I don't see how it's appropriate if that lore is absent and there's nothing visible to suggest that the character is trans like scars or such.

If we're tagging every "dickgirl" as trans, then that makes the tag utterly pointless because it doesn't convey the extra detail/background information implicitly suggested by the tag.

Again, "trans (lore)" is NOT a tag to describe visually what genitals the character does or does not have, because then it could not be used on post-op trans people, who have of course had their male genitals removed/modified, such as this character: https://e621.net/posts/3363369?q=trans_%28lore%29+dilator

greens said:
Okay? A character not having both sets doesn't make them trans. I recently read zhali's fa page and she explicitly labels her character (in that page at least) as a herm. Trans is a lore tag, so I don't see how it's appropriate if that lore is absent and there's nothing visible to suggest that the character is trans like scars or such.

If we're tagging every "dickgirl" as trans, then that makes the tag utterly pointless because it doesn't convey the extra detail/background information implicitly suggested by the tag.

Again, "trans (lore)" is NOT a tag to describe visually what genitals the character does or does not have, because then it could not be used on post-op trans people, who have of course had their male genitals removed/modified, such as this character: https://e621.net/posts/3363369?q=trans_%28lore%29+dilator

Talk to the mods about the TWYS policy

smuglytherat said:
Talk to the mods about the TWYS policy

Lore tags are exempt from TWYS, lore tags instead require external information. Is this character is trans in-universe? If so, all the posts tagged zhali must have it, but I'd want confirmation with a link from the OC owner first.

wolfmanfur said:
Lore tags are exempt from TWYS, lore tags instead require external information. Is this character is trans in-universe? If so, all the posts tagged zhali must have it, but I'd want confirmation with a link from the OC owner first.

So far as I'm aware, no. Zhali's page explicitly labels them as a "herm" and also references the mythological and magical hermaphrodites that act as fertility symbols, which inspired the char. Unsurprising, zhali has been depicted as a "true" herm numerous times. I'm fairly confident I'm in the right on this one.

smuglytherat said:
Talk to the mods about the TWYS policy

You can't "see" lore.
And I also see nothing that indicates that this character is trans. Dickgirl/futa=/=trans.

wolfmanfur said:
Lore tags are exempt from TWYS, lore tags instead require external information. Is this character is trans in-universe? If so, all the posts tagged zhali must have it, but I'd want confirmation with a link from the OC owner first.

greens said:
So far as I'm aware, no. Zhali's page explicitly labels them as a "herm" and also references the mythological and magical hermaphrodites that act as fertility symbols, which inspired the char. Unsurprising, zhali has been depicted as a "true" herm numerous times. I'm fairly confident I'm in the right on this one.

Right on the first part, wrong on the "every single post with a character must have the lore tag" part. Policy says that it's on a per-image basis, only to be added if TWYS can't tag a character's gender or age properly, and if an established character is changed by an artist for whatever reason, the artist's change overrides canon.

That being said, lore tags also goes by the word of the character owner, assuming the artist doesn't contradict it. Per TWYS, herm wouldn't apply to this post since it requires the penis and pussy to be visible. In lore, however, the reference sheet for Zhali do indeed say that she's a herm. As such, the herm_(lore) tag can be safely applied to this post.

werideatdawn said:
Per TWYS, herm wouldn't apply to this post since it requires the penis and pussy to be visible. In lore, however, the reference sheet for Zhali do indeed say that she's a herm. As such, the herm_(lore) tag can be safely applied to this post.

(Zhali gets non-herm/dickgirl coms pretty frequently btw, so it might not be appropriate. Just never tgirl stuff... Yet.)