Oh hey, this is getting posted here. Well, considering what happened with the discourse of this comic over on e-hentai, I forsee absolutely no problems and/or arguments down the line.

litch1999 said:
Oh hey, this is getting posted here. Well, considering what happened with the discourse of this comic over on e-hentai, I forsee absolutely no problems and/or arguments down the line.

Man, I have so much to say on why I absolutely loathe this comic and what it's saying about the characters, but I don't think that I nor anyone else wants to write/read a rambley 10 paragraph essay on why a porn comic sucks. Just know: it sucks.

epic_gamer said:
Man, I have so much to say on why I absolutely loathe this comic and what it's saying about the characters, but I don't think that I nor anyone else wants to write/read a rambley 10 paragraph essay on why a porn comic sucks. Just know: it sucks.

Believe it or not, I actually had the opportunity to discuss this comic with Miss Phase. It was... an interesting conversation.

epic_gamer said:
Man, I have so much to say on why I absolutely loathe this comic and what it's saying about the characters, but I don't think that I nor anyone else wants to write/read a rambley 10 paragraph essay on why a porn comic sucks. Just know: it sucks.

i made the comic, id like to read it!

litch1999 said:
Believe it or not, I actually had the opportunity to discuss this comic with Miss Phase. It was... an interesting conversation.

i mean at the end it's a fancomic man i didnt think it was that serious

missphase said:
i made the comic, id like to read it!

UhHiMissPhaseWhatIMeantToSayWasUhThatYourComicIsIncredibleAndThat
ItsThGreatestLiteraryWorkSinceShakespeareAndItWasJustASlipOfTheTounge
ImSorryImSorryImSor-

missphase said:
i mean at the end it's a fancomic man i didnt think it was that serious

When you create a story based on characters people like, people take it seriously. Why do you think that one Zootopia comic of Nick getting his shit slapped was memed to hell?

epic_gamer said:
UhHiMissPhaseWhatIMeantToSayWasUhThatYourComicIsIncredibleAndThat
ItsThGreatestLiteraryWorkSinceShakespeareAndItWasJustASlipOfTheTounge
ImSorryImSorryImSor-

i genuinely really like hearing criticism and talking about it lmao. i love reading comments and just see that people are invested in something i do, in a positive or negative way all the same! don't worry about it please

litch1999 said:
When you create a story based on characters people like, people take it seriously. Why do you think that one Zootopia comic of Nick getting his shit slapped was memed to hell?

that is true, though my first reaction to that comic was laughter so i guess im biased and a little removed. it is just so out there and shocking, you know? in any case im very sorry if i was derogatory in our previous conversations about this comic on e-hentai

Don't you ever do fems other than Slut-Sonic? It's giving you a bad name, when all your comics are just Sonic turning into a huge-breasted whore and being fucked by human males.

It kinda looks like you hate Sonic. And women.

My motto for writing comics is "Come for the porn, stay for the violence".

Not a fan of what this comic did to my boy Tails.
it was still pretty hot though

This comic is sickeningly loathsome. Even if you set aside how cruelly and unfairly Tails is done dirty, or how despicably unlikable and heartless Sonic becomes, or the overtones of miserable nihilism, what are we left with? A sloppy story that has contrived, forced drama, and constant tonal whiplash from beginning to end.

breech_loader said:
Don't you ever do fems other than Slut-Sonic? It's giving you a bad name, when all your comics are just Sonic turning into a huge-breasted whore and being fucked by human males.

It kinda looks like you hate Sonic. And women.

My motto for writing comics is "Come for the porn, stay for the violence".

I'm sorry it's not your boat, I specialized in many specific things and I ended up portraying one single character with a specific personality. It was never meant to be a sweeping statement to be made all women or anything like that. We all have access to internet porn, I'm sure you'll find many things way more belittling than my portrayal of Sonic. She's a character that enjoys male attention. Obviously I don't mean to declare every women ever is exactly like this. It is such a loaded accusation to make. I don't think my art has ever hurt anyone or the women's identities. Is it derogatory? Sure. It's porn. I'm sorry I'm not too vanilla but it's something else entirely to call someone a misogynist. Let's not be on such high horses while clearly browsing for porn.

Also I dislike the notion that portraying a woman who enjoys appearing sexually attractive is always reductive of women. Such women do exist in our world without making a statement about how reserved other women should be. I don't like it when some people blame some women's outwards tenures instead of blaming the normalization of opportunistic men.

skooner said:
This comic is sickeningly loathsome. Even if you set aside how cruelly and unfairly Tails is done dirty, or how despicably unlikable and heartless Sonic becomes, or the overtones of miserable nihilism, what are we left with? A sloppy story that has contrived, forced drama, and constant tonal whiplash from beginning to end.

I'm sorry this story doesn't deliver for you. Admittedly, due to the story being about capitalism, it is very pragmatic and cold. I'd say nihilism is a stretch but it's fair if that's the reaction you get out of seeing your favorite characters under such a light. I seldom see these characters done in this way and the excuse of porn gives us so much narrative freedom, I thought it was fun, and it still is to me. I tried to make sense out of Sonic's newfound pragmatism and attempted to put both sides under inscrutiny. Sonic became too addicted to success and attention without caring for anything. Tails on the other hand got immediately too protective and assumed it's his right to go against Sonic's personal wishes. Just putting everything on Sonic's side is biased to say the least. Maybe a talk would solve it all? Not sure on that. But a) It wouldn't be too interesting and b) what happened doesn't feel too farfetched to me, given the internal logic of the story.

Also, all first 4 issues are setting things up for more lackadaisy stories. Currently I'm writing issue #5 and you might see things you enjoy, be it less drama, more humanity, familiarity or sheer comeuppance against Sonic for being the kind of person you dislike.

ganbarise-king99 said:
Not a fan of what this comic did to my boy Tails.
it was still pretty hot though

Thank you, and I'm sorry! I don't want to spoil anything, hope you like what I have for the future! Maybe you won't, I can't promise too much without giving anything away.

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missphase said:
I'm sorry it's not your boat, I specialized in many specific things and I ended up portraying one single character with a specific personality. It was never meant to be a sweeping statement to be made all women or anything like that. We all have access to internet porn, I'm sure you'll find many things way more belittling than my portrayal of Sonic. She's a character that enjoys male attention. Obviously I don't mean to declare every women ever is exactly like this. It is such a loaded accusation to make. I don't think my art has ever hurt anyone or the women's identities. Is it derogatory? Sure. It's porn. I'm sorry I'm not too vanilla but it's something else entirely to call someone a misogynist. Let's not be on such high horses while clearly browsing for porn.

Also I dislike the notion that portraying a woman who enjoys appearing sexually attractive is always reductive of women. Such women do exist in our world without making a statement about how reserved other women should be. I don't like it when some people blame some women's outwards tenures instead of blaming the normalization of opportunistic men.

I'm sorry this story doesn't deliver for you. Admittedly, due to the story being about capitalism, it is very pragmatic and cold. I'd say nihilism is a stretch but it's fair if that's the reaction you get out of seeing your favorite characters under such a light. I seldom see these characters done in this way and the excuse of porn gives us so much narrative freedom, I thought it was fun, and it still is to me. I tried to make sense out of Sonic's newfound pragmatism and attempted to put both sides under inscrutiny. Sonic became too addicted to success and attention without caring for anything. Tails on the other hand got immediately too protective and assumed it's his right to go against Sonic's personal wishes. Just putting everything on Sonic's side is biased to say the least. Maybe a talk would solve it all? Not sure on that. But a) It wouldn't be too interesting and b) what happened doesn't feel too farfetched to me, given the internal logic of the story.

Also, all first 4 issues are setting things up for more lackadaisy stories. Currently I'm writing issue #5 and you might see things you enjoy, be it less drama, more humanity, familiarity or sheer comeuppance against Sonic for being the kind of person you dislike.

Sonic's newfound pragmatism? Is that what you're going to call it? I'd call it callousness. Especially when she's too casually willing to thoroughly destroy Tails' life and leave him with nothing. Tails wasn't just some acquaintance. He was the closest friend that she had ever known. Someone that she had a deep sibling bond with for such a significant chunk of her life. The end of such a bond should have been the heaviest cost of her success, but not only did she drop that friendship too easily and too quickly, but she was way too quick to move on from it afterwards. As if it had never existed. Even while Tails was clearly showing lament during their last meeting, she had no reaction to it whatsoever, and remained unflinchingly dismissive of him. That, was the last nail in the coffin that makes her feel like such a vile snake of a person. If Tails were to die one day, and news of it reached her, would she even care? It sure doesn't feel like she would. Yes, I know that at one point, she was mad at him for trying to turn her back into a man, but that's no excuse.

I wouldn't say that it would have completely redeemed Sonic's character, but it certainly would have helped if she had shown at least a sliver of remorse over what she had done to her former brother. If she had lamented for a brief second. If it were at least hinted that she found it regrettable that things between them came to that, and that part of her misses him. If we had just seen her feeling something, anything that would have shown that she wasn't completely heartless. A little bit of sadness from her would have gone such a long way toward making the comic, and even Sonic herself, more bearable.

Hell, you could still make that happen. It wouldn't be too late for that. Even if it's just for a moment.

skooner said:
Sonic's newfound pragmatism? Is that what you're going to call it? I'd call it callousness. Especially when she's too casually willing to thoroughly destroy Tails' life and leave him with nothing. Tails wasn't just some acquaintance. He was the closest friend that she had ever known. Someone that she had a deep sibling bond with for such a significant chunk of her life. The end of such a bond should have been the heaviest cost of her success, but not only did she drop that friendship too easily and too quickly, but she was way too quick to move on from it afterwards. As if it had never existed. Even while Tails was clearly showing lament during their last meeting, she had no reaction to it whatsoever, and remained unflinchingly dismissive of him. That, was the last nail in the coffin that makes her feel like such a vile snake of a person. If Tails were to die one day, and news of it reached her, would she even care? It sure doesn't feel like she would. Yes, I know that at one point, she was mad at him for trying to turn her back into a man, but that's no excuse.

I wouldn't say that it would have completely redeemed Sonic's character, but it certainly would have helped if she had shown at least a sliver of remorse over what she had done to her former brother. If she had lamented for a brief second. If it were at least hinted that she found it regrettable that things between them came to that, and that part of her misses him. If we had just seen her feeling something, anything that would have shown that she wasn't completely heartless. A little bit of sadness from her would have gone such a long way toward making the comic, and even Sonic herself, more bearable.

Hell, you could still make that happen. It wouldn't be too late for that. Even if it's just for a moment.

It's pragmatism and it's even somewhat inhuman, I completely agree with that. Callous? Sure. Sonic is the main character but it was never my intention to make her the hero. It's all muddied. Moral binary of good and evil was gone right out of the window once Eggman finally died (something I do want to expand upon in a future story) and something died in Sonic even before that. That's the story I wanted to tell.

I know that a lot of people are mad with me for disrespecting the brotherly bond between Sonic and Tails, and that might have what I've ended up doing, but I don't believe I belittled it. I am fully aware of its existence and that was the hook I used to tell my story, which is, what happens when Sonic enters a new chapter in his/her life and this time, it's directly conflicting with this brothership of theirs? And it conflicted a lot, it wasn't just when Tails tried to change Sonic back without her consent. It was when Sonic got too addicted to male love and suggested it to Tails. It was when Tails started having unwanted sexualized feelings for the person used to be his brother, and felt jealous when she immediately became very loose as a woman. It was when Sonic said "Who are you, my brother?" without thinking on it. It was when Tails fed her tracking devices, and lied throughout.

And last but not least, Sonic left him with all the Eggman tech. Sonic ended up getting nothing out of the Eggbase raid, just having laid down her conglomerate empire's foundation was enough for her. Like Mr. Saffron said in issue 2, even the Eggtech means nothing when handled by someone who's a goody-good shoes. You don't get to be that when you're a high-society business person, which is what Sonic ended up wanting. Come to think of it, she didn't even get the Fake Emerald manufacturing technology, even when it was essential for her operations.

TLDR I don't think it's impossible to interpret Sonic and Tails's brotherly status as an intimate alliance which was, still, based on having the same enemy. The enemy was gone, and their relationship decayed. It's sad, it's heartbreaking to a lot of people. Something that cannot ever happen? I don't think so. Yes, at the end of Issue 3 Sonic got REALLY dismissive of their past, to the point of ridiculing it. It is cold, but Sonic has always been a thrill-mandated person, even as a man. And her thrill at the time was a need for revenge.

The story is cynical. It's hard but it's true. I know many people just want to see their "Unbreakable Bond" for being exactly that. It means a lot to many people. It means things for me too, that's why I heightened its importance -- as I broke it. I challenged it, I challenged the good-bad binary of Sonic universe. It might be alien to some, but I believe it's adult in many ways. Not just because we see her fucking.

missphase said:
It's pragmatism and it's even somewhat inhuman, I completely agree with that. Callous? Sure. Sonic is the main character but it was never my intention to make her the hero. It's all muddied. Moral binary of good and evil was gone right out of the window once Eggman finally died (something I do want to expand upon in a future story) and something died in Sonic even before that. That's the story I wanted to tell.

I know that a lot of people are mad with me for disrespecting the brotherly bond between Sonic and Tails, and that might have what I've ended up doing, but I don't believe I belittled it. I am fully aware of its existence and that was the hook I used to tell my story, which is, what happens when Sonic enters a new chapter in his/her life and this time, it's directly conflicting with this brothership of theirs? And it conflicted a lot, it wasn't just when Tails tried to change Sonic back without her consent. It was when Sonic got too addicted to male love and suggested it to Tails. It was when Tails started having unwanted sexualized feelings for the person used to be his brother, and felt jealous when she immediately became very loose as a woman. It was when Sonic said "Who are you, my brother?" without thinking on it. It was when Tails fed her tracking devices, and lied throughout.

And last but not least, Sonic left him with all the Eggman tech. Sonic ended up getting nothing out of the Eggbase raid, just having laid down her conglomerate empire's foundation was enough for her. Like Mr. Saffron said in issue 2, even the Eggtech means nothing when handled by someone who's a goody-good shoes. You don't get to be that when you're a high-society business person, which is what Sonic ended up wanting. Come to think of it, she didn't even get the Fake Emerald manufacturing technology, even when it was essential for her operations.

TLDR I don't think it's impossible to interpret Sonic and Tails's brotherly status as an intimate alliance which was, still, based on having the same enemy. The enemy was gone, and their relationship decayed. It's sad, it's heartbreaking to a lot of people. Something that cannot ever happen? I don't think so. Yes, at the end of Issue 3 Sonic got REALLY dismissive of their past, to the point of ridiculing it. It is cold, but Sonic has always been a thrill-mandated person, even as a man. And her thrill at the time was a need for revenge.

The story is cynical. It's hard but it's true. I know many people just want to see their "Unbreakable Bond" for being exactly that. It means a lot to many people. It means things for me too, that's why I heightened its importance -- as I broke it. I challenged it, I challenged the good-bad binary of Sonic universe. It might be alien to some, but I believe it's adult in many ways. Not just because we see her fucking.

What kind of alternate setting is the world that your comic takes place in? Because it's definitely not the setting of the mainline Sonic games. The logic is entirely different.

Yeah, it really seems like you wanted to challenge a lot of things and explore more heavy hitting adult themes in a porn comic that sloppily switched back and forth from drama to humor, to being the more usual big-tiddie Sonic fun times. In that same poorly handled balance and confusion of tone that I mentioned earlier. Like in the emotional climax of issue 3 where you inserted a "yay!" Next to the text that says that Tails is never seen or heard from again. Nobody going into it expects nor wants a big-tiddie porn comic to be anything more than what it is.

You want to make a more morally ambiguous story? Fine, but the main character is the one that the audience is supposed to follow, and you can't just ask the audience to just accept a main character that they can't root for. Few things are as bad for a story as an unlikable main character. You have to give them something to be able to latch on to. It's why I know for a fact that I'm not going to like any future works of this series, regardless of how much lighter you make the tone. It's still going to be a story in the same setting as the miserable setup that preceded it. You can't expect everyone to just sweep everything she did in the past under the rug.

Also, I can already tell that any alleged comeuppance that you may or may not have planned for Sonic is not going to be good enough.

skooner said:
What kind of alternate setting is the world that your comic takes place in? Because it's definitely not the setting of the mainline Sonic games. The logic is entirely different.

Yeah, it really seems like you wanted to challenge a lot of things and explore more heavy hitting adult themes in a porn comic that sloppily switched back and forth from drama to humor, to being the more usual big-tiddie Sonic fun times. In that same poorly handled balance and confusion of tone that I mentioned earlier. Like in the emotional climax of issue 3 where you inserted a "yay!" Next to the text that says that Tails is never seen or heard from again. Nobody going into it expects nor wants a big-tiddie porn comic to be anything more than what it is.

You want to make a more morally ambiguous story? Fine, but the main character is the one that the audience is supposed to follow, and you can't just ask the audience to just accept a main character that they can't root for. Few things are as bad for a story as an unlikable main character. You have to give them something to be able to latch on to. It's why I know for a fact that I'm not going to like any future works of this series, regardless of how much lighter you make the tone. It's still going to be a story in the same setting as the miserable setup that preceded it. You can't expect everyone to just sweep everything she did in the past under the rug.

Also, I can already tell that any alleged comeuppance that you may or may not have planned is not going to be good enough.

A "different tone" isn't an "alternate" setting or a universe. It's a universe they grew up and everything was less simple. It's still a follow up to their official stories, I don't think it being a darker take doesn't immediately make both interpretations mutually exclusive.

The first stories barely had humor honestly. Drama, plot progression and sexual tensions. I know the exposition gets very messy but... I'm not sure, the story has always been incredibly dry. Maybe the part where Sonic is getting the emeralds back from world leaders? Just one-note throwaway characters, I only used them to show how Sonic's identity has changed in the eyes of the world. Humor hasn't been my intention, at least with the first 3-parter story. And at that point I really am not sure what your criticism exactly is. Is it that you think the plot isn't developed enough, or is it that it's a porn comic therefore the plot shouldn't be there? I don't like using this argument but you said "nobody" and my response to it is that, I hear from others on my Patreon and Discord server where there are people who are invested in this.

I think with the "Yay" part, you refer to the square bubble that says "This is incredible!.." which was a tie-in to the next page, where we go back to the framing device of the entire 3-parter story where this is all told by Sonic (as she's getting fucked by her interviewer and being filmed). It wasn't supposed to be my personal affirmation of the events, or me telling the audience "Tails flying away is good, actually, despite what you might think". I think you're personalizing and taking away a lot. The panel flow would make more sense if this was printed format, I think things being web-based kind of makes one think of every page as their own thing.

Especially in a porn comic, or any modern story, antiheroes exist. A character you don't want to see her exploits because you have personal gripes against a person of this caliber? I understand. But rationalizing that distaste into making factual statements is something else entirely. I believe it's not Sonic's morality that makes those who read C.O.W continue reading C.O.W, it's just the situation she's in is interesting and some people might even be interested in seeing the depths where Sonic has changed.

Some people feel Tails is extremely wronged. Equally, I've heard from some that think Sonic was wronged more. I personally believe they both were wronged, and they cannot relate to each other anymore because their interests and identities became too diverse. But in the end I'm glad I ended up invoking such strong feelings in everybody, however you feel it to be miserable. It just makes me believe it IS something that could HAPPEN to these characters. In reality, not everyone thinks what Sonic did is unforgivable, or that Tails was wholly innocent in all of this.

I offered many different scenarios, not just comeuppance, but it feels like you specifically expect that because you dislike Sonic, and then already feel disappointed about it. All I'm trying to convey here that I don't move the plot based on my beliefs on what character deserves what. That's not how I write, if anything, I try to convey an uncaring universe. You might even call it an unfair universe, but in the end, that's your interpretation, because you dislike this character more than many others.

missphase said:
A "different tone" isn't an "alternate" setting or a universe. It's a universe they grew up and everything was less simple. It's still a follow up to their official stories, I don't think it being a darker take doesn't immediately make both interpretations mutually exclusive.

The first stories barely had humor honestly. Drama, plot progression and sexual tensions. I know the exposition gets very messy but... I'm not sure, the story has always been incredibly dry. Maybe the part where Sonic is getting the emeralds back from world leaders? Just one-note throwaway characters, I only used them to show how Sonic's identity has changed in the eyes of the world. Humor hasn't been my intention, at least with the first 3-parter story. And at that point I really am not sure what your criticism exactly is. Is it that you think the plot isn't developed enough, or is it that it's a porn comic therefore the plot shouldn't be there? I don't like using this argument but you said "nobody" and my response to it is that, I hear from others on my Patreon and Discord server where there are people who are invested in this.

I think with the "Yay" part, you refer to the square bubble that says "This is incredible!.." which was a tie-in to the next page, where we go back to the framing device of the entire 3-parter story where this is all told by Sonic (as she's getting fucked by her interviewer and being filmed). It wasn't supposed to be my personal affirmation of the events, or me telling the audience "Tails flying away is good, actually, despite what you might think". I think you're personalizing and taking away a lot. The panel flow would make more sense if this was printed format, I think things being web-based kind of makes one think of every page as their own thing.

Especially in a porn comic, or any modern story, antiheroes exist. A character you don't want to see her exploits because you have personal gripes against a person of this caliber? I understand. But rationalizing that distaste into making factual statements is something else entirely. I believe it's not Sonic's morality that makes those who read C.O.W continue reading C.O.W, it's just the situation she's in is interesting and some people might even be interested in seeing the depths where Sonic has changed.

Some people feel Tails is extremely wronged. Equally, I've heard from some that think Sonic was wronged more. I personally believe they both were wronged, and they cannot relate to each other anymore because their interests and identities became too diverse. But in the end I'm glad I ended up invoking such strong feelings in everybody, however you feel it to be miserable. It just makes me believe it IS something that could HAPPEN to these characters. In reality, not everyone thinks what Sonic did is unforgivable, or that Tails was wholly innocent in all of this.

I offered many different scenarios, not just comeuppance, but it feels like you specifically expect that because you dislike Sonic, and then already feel disappointed about it. All I'm trying to convey here that I don't move the plot based on my beliefs on what character deserves what. That's not how I write, if anything, I try to convey an uncaring universe. You might even call it an unfair universe, but in the end, that's your interpretation, because you dislike this character more than many others.

It is mutually exclusive. The setting of the mainline Sonic games would never allow for your scenario even on a conceptual level. The setting was specifically and fundamentally designed to be unrealistic. The setting, its characters, and overall personality were deliberately designed to operate solely on a more fantasy/cartoon-like logic that's meant to be the exact opposite of gritty realism, and is immune to it. Where hopefulness never dies, the friendships are both true, and guaranteed to last forever, and the scenario that you present would never happen in a million years. No matter how much you try to rationalize that it could. It's a setting that doesn't, and never will, operate on the logic that you're operating on.

Also, I don't "dislike" Sonic. I fucking hate her.

skooner said:
It is mutually exclusive. The setting of the mainline Sonic games would never allow for your scenario even on a conceptual level. The setting was specifically and fundamentally designed to be unrealistic. The setting, its characters, and overall personality were deliberately designed to operate solely on a more cartoon-like logic that's meant to be the exact opposite of gritty realism, and is immune to it. Where hopefulness never dies, the friendships are both true, and guaranteed to last forever, and the scenario that you present would never happen in a million years. It's a setting that doesn't, and never will, operate on the logic that you're operating on.

Also, I don't "dislike" Sonic. I fucking hate her.

Y-yes. It wouldn't, hence why fanfiction exists in any regard. And... yeah, idk what to tell you, my writing is far from being the only cynical interpretation of an otherwise Fun-For-All-Family franchise/concept. If you can't take that defense, I can give another: We all grow up. We all feel less innocent about the world around us, and things like betrayal CAN happen. Erosion of familial bonds DOES occur. Loss IS real. Doesn't matter if the official canon doesn't tackle it - these characters are, sadly to you, not immune to someone else coming in and embodying them in that particular perspective.

This isn't criticism. This is some essentialist garbage. Alas, thank you for giving me inspiration for Tails's eventual return.

missphase said:
It's pragmatism and it's even somewhat inhuman, I completely agree with that. Callous? Sure. Sonic is the main character but it was never my intention to make her the hero. It's all muddied. Moral binary of good and evil was gone right out of the window once Eggman finally died (something I do want to expand upon in a future story) and something died in Sonic even before that. That's the story I wanted to tell.

I know that a lot of people are mad with me for disrespecting the brotherly bond between Sonic and Tails, and that might have what I've ended up doing, but I don't believe I belittled it. I am fully aware of its existence and that was the hook I used to tell my story, which is, what happens when Sonic enters a new chapter in his/her life and this time, it's directly conflicting with this brothership of theirs? And it conflicted a lot, it wasn't just when Tails tried to change Sonic back without her consent. It was when Sonic got too addicted to male love and suggested it to Tails. It was when Tails started having unwanted sexualized feelings for the person used to be his brother, and felt jealous when she immediately became very loose as a woman. It was when Sonic said "Who are you, my brother?" without thinking on it. It was when Tails fed her tracking devices, and lied throughout.

And last but not least, Sonic left him with all the Eggman tech. Sonic ended up getting nothing out of the Eggbase raid, just having laid down her conglomerate empire's foundation was enough for her. Like Mr. Saffron said in issue 2, even the Eggtech means nothing when handled by someone who's a goody-good shoes. You don't get to be that when you're a high-society business person, which is what Sonic ended up wanting. Come to think of it, she didn't even get the Fake Emerald manufacturing technology, even when it was essential for her operations.

TLDR I don't think it's impossible to interpret Sonic and Tails's brotherly status as an intimate alliance which was, still, based on having the same enemy. The enemy was gone, and their relationship decayed. It's sad, it's heartbreaking to a lot of people. Something that cannot ever happen? I don't think so. Yes, at the end of Issue 3 Sonic got REALLY dismissive of their past, to the point of ridiculing it. It is cold, but Sonic has always been a thrill-mandated person, even as a man. And her thrill at the time was a need for revenge.

The story is cynical. It's hard but it's true. I know many people just want to see their "Unbreakable Bond" for being exactly that. It means a lot to many people. It means things for me too, that's why I heightened its importance -- as I broke it. I challenged it, I challenged the good-bad binary of Sonic universe. It might be alien to some, but I believe it's adult in many ways. Not just because we see her fucking.

Yo, i'm far from being a creator like you, but, i liked the story, if a little edgy even for me, it is a good read.

cristodemonte said:
Yo, i'm far from being a creator like you, but, i liked the story, if a little edgy even for me, it is a good read.

You're not far at all, if you can imagine, you can make it. Thank you so much. Every story I've made is laden with problems, with C.O.W it's the ridiculous page-to-page skippy pacing, me trying to cram in a bunch of real-life-adjacent rules and mentions in an effort to make this story come off really business-cynical, minimal porn and yeah, the tone is rough to many audience members. I try to make it better while keeping this story fresh and different, it's a batter I still need to churn. We're not here to make the best thing with every effort, we're here to take continuous steps towards making the best thing we can do. I want to see what you make one day, too. Again, thank you.

missphase said:
Thank you, and I'm sorry! I don't want to spoil anything, hope you like what I have for the future! Maybe you won't, I can't promise too much without giving anything away.

I'm honestly of the mindset of just, not bringing him back?
Like, I feel like he's kinda a cornered character at this point, people will get angry if he comes back having suddenly changed his mind, but people will also be angry if he returns as an antagonist only to get BTFO'd again, y'know?

But then again I could be entirely off base with what you have planned and I'm not really in any position to try and tell you how to write your story.

Just my two cents.

ganbarise-king99 said:
I'm honestly of the mindset of just, not bringing him back?
Like, I feel like he's kinda a cornered character at this point, people will get angry if he comes back having suddenly changed his mind, but people will also be angry if he returns as an antagonist only to get BTFO'd again, y'know?

But then again I could be entirely off base with what you have planned and I'm not really in any position to try and tell you how to write your story.

Just my two cents.

I think he offers one more story. That's what I thought before planning out a 13-issue series for C.O.W and that's what I think still. Though, I will say certain aspects of what I want to write about him were always in flux and they're not anymore. In any case I just think C.O.W cannot be wrapped in a tight bow without Tails eventually returning. If he got so immediately controversial that someone will be left unappeased, well, I'm sorry. I'm not going to pull a Marvel and change the ending into an inferior alternate plan just because someone else predicted what I was going for.