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A complete paint over of an AI generated art found on Rule34: https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=7150760

The original art was a girl, but it screams "boy" to me because of the facial structure and hairstyle. I redrew it into a sporty, fit boy. I usually draw girly boys, so it was a fun practice to finally draw a more "standard" boy.

Controversy aside, AI art has come a long way. I honestly think the original art looks VERY appealing, although the details are still messy. For general NSFW art consumption, it's more than adequate. I can learn a lot from AI art, because the messy details makes it easier to find out what really makes a picture look appealing. This can be a useful tool for studying art.

I still don't like to generate AI art myself -- the experience felt rather alienating from the idea of creating art. I had so much more fun just drawing myself.

I'm curious, though, which artists' work did the original AI art might have referenced?

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  • This seems like the right way to use ai generation to me. Using the ai image as a guide and redoing everything seems to be working very well in this image.

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  • Suprise suprise, I didn't think I'd see my stuff on this site since ai generated images aren't allowed here haha. Definitely like the redraw here. Seems like you can breath life into drawing and give it the spark it was missing.

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  • blayzin said:
    Suprise suprise, I didn't think I'd see my stuff on this site since ai generated images aren't allowed here haha. Definitely like the redraw here. Seems like you can breath life into drawing and give it the spark it was missing.

    I'm glad the original maker liked this!

    At first, I was only interested in gender swapping and fixing all the messy details. I looked up e621's rules -- the "No AI art allowed" rule has exceptions: for complete paint over; and for background use. So I did a complete paint over. The picture has not been approved yet. Let's wait and see how the moderators think of it.

    AI might have become better at art, but I think the human operator is also very important. The tweaking and curation you did gave the original art its core appeal, and it impressed me to redraw while trying to retain the "feels" of the original.

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  • garbagehumanbeing said:
    This seems like the right way to use ai generation to me. Using the ai image as a guide and redoing everything seems to be working very well in this image.

    I would probably never use AI in my normal art. It's not because of the ethical stain that currently associated with AI art. But I think a reference too close to home might bury the creativity of an artist.

    But as a tool for art study and practice, I definitely see the value of AI art. The experience of redrawing this gave me a lot of insights, both from the original art, and from fixing the messy details. It felt like using AI to practice chess!

    And if my practice produced some sneaky stuff to share, that's a good thing in my book! XD

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  • sneakymouse said:
    I'm glad the original maker liked this!

    At first, I was only interested in gender swapping and fixing all the messy details. I looked up e621's rules -- the "No AI art allowed" rule has exceptions: for complete paint over; and for background use. So I did a complete paint over. The picture has not been approved yet. Let's wait and see how the moderators think of it.

    AI might have become better at art, but I think the human operator is also very important. The tweaking and curation you did gave the original art its core appeal, and it impressed me to redraw while trying to retain the "feels" of the original.

    I belive humans have an advantage right now since we can train in on what you really want to see as compared to an ai which guesses at it more rng. Ai will get better over time, but right now most works that come out of an ai generated image always lack somthing for me. Where as a person can draw or work with an artist on what they want the image to look like into fine detail.

    For me It's been kinda fun seeing what the ai can come up with so far. It feels like I'm messing with a puzzle and trying to figure out what pieces, or in this case Prompts to use to make an image come out decently.

    novelai.net has the generator I use. It costs a bit of money and it's in beta as of now.

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  • whydoidothis said:
    How does one make AI-generated Yiff?

    bambitheshinx said:
    I too would like to know how to use Ai to make lewd arts. Everything I've tried sucks

    novelai.net has the generator I use. It cost $10 a month and you get 1000 "anlas" points a month. Each photo you make costs a little bit but it adds up fast. Or it does for me since I screw around on it a lot. About 10 bucks gets you 10,000 points. And depending on the settings you use it costs more or less. It's in beta as of now, so hopefully it should get better also.

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  • blayzin said:
    novelai.net has the generator I use. It cost $10 a month and you get 1000 "anlas" points a month. Each photo you make costs a little bit but it adds up fast. Or it does for me since I screw around on it a lot. About 10 bucks gets you 10,000 points. And depending on the settings you use it costs more or less. It's in beta as of now, so hopefully it should get better also.

    Are there any programs you can run locally on your computer? Even if it takes some time to generate it would be nice to be able to do it without relying on some other service.

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  • garbagehumanbeing said:
    Are there any programs you can run locally on your computer? Even if it takes some time to generate it would be nice to be able to do it without relying on some other service.

    You can use Stable Diffusion.

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  • electricitywolf said:
    You can use Stable Diffusion.

    Will Stable Diffusion allow NSFW prompts? I know their website doesn't, nor does the API. It's definitely not just the servers looking at keywords, because I managed to get passed it accidentally via AI Dungeon (though it didn't actually give me an NSFW result, but it really seemed to try).

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  • auwnl said:
    Will Stable Diffusion allow NSFW prompts? I know their website doesn't, nor does the API. It's definitely not just the servers looking at keywords, because I managed to get passed it accidentally via AI Dungeon (though it didn't actually give me an NSFW result, but it really seemed to try).

    You can download Stable Diffusion and run it on your computer if you want to generate NSFW images. You will need at least 16 GiB of main RAM if you want to run it on a CPU, or a graphics card with at least 10 GiB of RAM if you want to run it on a GPU.

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  • As an artist myself, I'd have to say this is one of the first times I've seen someone use AI for art in a way that doesn't feel shameless. It's sad that you can't figure out whose work it's drawing from because the OP didn't credit the sources, but I think it's a good thing to use automation as a study and practice tool.

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  • tagwaggin said:
    As an artist myself, I'd have to say this is one of the first times I've seen someone use AI for art in a way that doesn't feel shameless. It's sad that you can't figure out whose work it's drawing from because the OP didn't credit the sources, but I think it's a good thing to use automation as a study and practice tool.

    After using NovelAI for a while, I came to the conclusion that it wasn't the OP not crediting the sources, it's more like it was impossible to do so.

    For NovelAI:
    1) The operator has little control over the art style.
    2) The operator does not supply the AI with learning material, the company does.
    3) The AI mixes so many different styles so organically (unlike what the vocal opponents want people to believe), it's extremely difficult, if not impossible, to identify the exact artists who influenced its output.

    I had only encountered a few rare occasions where the facial structure faintly reminded me of an artist I know. And when that happened, it was probably because one of the tags I used being dominated by that particular artist. Otherwise, 99.99% of the time, I could not tell.

    I dare say AI now behaves not that far from how human artists do/study art. It's just faster, and more random, and has a lot of funny quirks:
    1) It learns my taste as a curator. The more I used it for a certain topic, the more often it can provide me with a good picture for that particular topic.
    2) It remembers some "iconic features" from previous generations. Be it a stroke of genius, or a disastrous nightmare fuel. The bad stuff, like PTSD, strikes back every few generations later with the exact same arrangement) XD.
    3) It stands its ground of "common sense". It was very difficult to get a gynomorph (female) to penetrate a male. And even if she does, the male is often still dominating, or the gynomorph must be older and bigger to dominate a male XD
    4) It gets tired after doing the same set of tags over and over. The result gets increasingly lazy, uninspiring, or it actively seeks to astray from previous approach. It usually gets better a day or two later. As if it has recovered from the bore. XD

    I know it's not human, but AI feels like a quirky artist I want to befriend with. XD

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  • Blayzin said:

    whydoidothis said:
    How does one make AI-generated Yiff?

    bambitheshinx said:
    I too would like to know how to use Ai to make lewd arts. Everything I've tried sucks

    novelai.net has the generator I use. It cost $10 a month and you get 1000 "anlas" points a month. Each photo you make costs a little bit but it adds up fast. Or it does for me since I screw around on it a lot. About 10 bucks gets you 10,000 points. And depending on the settings you use it costs more or less. It's in beta as of now, so hopefully it should get better also.

    But how you let it generator explicit content? Like genitals. Or are they drawn later on by an human artist then?

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  • weasyl said:
    novelai.net has the generator I use. It cost $10 a month and you get 1000 "anlas" points a month. Each photo you make costs a little bit but it adds up fast. Or it does for me since I screw around on it a lot. About 10 bucks gets you 10,000 points. And depending on the settings you use it costs more or less. It's in beta as of now, so hopefully it should get better also.

    But how you let it generator explicit content? Like genitals. Or are they drawn later on by an human artist then?
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    I would rather enjoy my doomscrolling then talk about if AI bad, sidenote: it isn't. And it ain't takin anyones jobs anytime soon.
    For AI to actually take someones job, you would need REPLOID levels of intelligence put into it, and REPLOID has it's own ENTIRE Dictionary of laws of robotics that rival and trump asimovs.

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