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something_secret said: Even though it says it in the Pokédex entry, I think more research will be required. You know, to ensure accuracy and reliability of the data.
iceblazewinters said: salazzle's pheromones affect humans and salazzle turns humans into sex slaves to be a part of it's harem
Salazzle has a slow mind-break where you lose yourself in the mix of her passion, pheromones and service and reward. A mistress and her pet that live entwined in pleasure.
Lovander don't have time for that, and Lovander doesn't need Pheromones. Lovander has 5 of it's buddies. They see your base with all those cute juicy Pals and your own cute ass, and they coming for em. You best be on your guard with some strong Pals to back you up, cause willing or not, you will be used.
null-fury said: pokemon fans big mad at the truth.
anyway, don't play palworld, folks. some of the designs are machine generated and some of them are stolen from small artists.
Where is the proof on the stolen designs and machine generation? I know the main person who made the game loves ai and the designs in the game are based off pokemon designs, but you it’s good to have proof.
Regardless of ai use or not palworld seems to be what many pokemon fans wanted out of Gamefreak and Nintendo for years and the numbers back it up. As for them being just 'ripoffs' of pokemon designs let's stop pretending that pokemon ever was 100% original in the first place, plenty pull inspiration from folklore, religion, popular media etc. or even basic things like animals that live/lived on Earth. It's one thing to make a ripoff but it's a difficult task to make a ripoff that satisfies the customer of the thing you rip off and makes them choose your product over the "OG" thing
verysadfox said: Regardless of ai use or not palworld seems to be what many pokemon fans wanted out of Gamefreak and Nintendo for years and the numbers back it up. As for them being just 'ripoffs' of pokemon designs let's stop pretending that pokemon ever was 100% original in the first place, plenty pull inspiration from folklore, religion, popular media etc. or even basic things like animals that live/lived on Earth. It's one thing to make a ripoff but it's a difficult task to make a ripoff that satisfies the customer of the thing you rip off and makes them choose your product over the "OG" thing
I want TPC to change with the times but this pretty much isn't it.
If I want a dark, gritty Pokemon, I'll turn towards Atlus and Shin Megami Tensei or its sister series Persona. (This was the point I was trying to make with my last comment here; Pokemon has always had the dark gritty competitor since before it came into existence.)
And I'm not a fan of survivalcraft games like ARK in the first place, so Palworld just comes off to me as "We have Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha at home" to me.
bongani said: I want TPC to change with the times but this pretty much isn't it.
If I want a dark, gritty Pokemon, I'll turn towards Atlus and Shin Megami Tensei or its sister series Persona. (This was the point I was trying to make with my last comment here; Pokemon has always had the dark gritty competitor since before it came into existence.)
And I'm not a fan of survivalcraft games like ARK in the first place, so Palworld just comes off to me as "We have Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha at home" to me.
And yet most Pokemon fans didn't run to Shin Megami Tensei. Perhaps it's not the gritty and dark that people searched for all these years and that's not the core of its popularity, either way we are all entitled to liking what gives us a moment of relaxation regardless of what others say. Many enjoy their time in Palworld others do so by playing Candy Crush and yet another group partakes in CBT sessions in League of Legends for some reason but I or anyone else shouldn't dictate what other people should play
verysadfox said: And yet most Pokemon fans didn't run to Shin Megami Tensei.
They also didn't run to Cassette Beasts, Dragon Quest Monsters, Nexomon, Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance, or really any other game in Pokemon's genre. Almost all of which have meatier and less-lighthearted plotlines than Pokemon without delving into the "Everything's already fucked" malaise of Megami Tensei.
And that's the problem. Palworld's ambit (open-world survivalcraft) is far different from the tactical J(A)RPGs the games above are, and fits closer to something like ARK (its most direct gameplay inspiration) or Rust. It's hard to make an argument about competition when you're comparing NFL teams to NBA teams.
When most of your direct competition is hardly blowing up sales charts and the hottest thing is in a genre that is mainly dominated by Western studios (due to Japan mostly having a different view on how storytelling should work in video games), why would you bother to compete against it in a genre you don't understand and which your domestic audience wouldn't be particularly interested in? Again, TPC needs to change, but Palworld isn't going to be the fire under their arse to force it along.
(Sidenote: this started out as an reply, but eventually evolved into overthinking) (Also, I haven't played neither Palworld or a Pokemon title yet)
My opinion on the subject (long)
Another problem with a dark entry into a series mostly advertised towards the family-safe demographic, where kids are as welcome as adults and teens, is the family safe aspect
Building this world full of friendly faces and cuteness WILL attract children and their parents will go "This doesn't look evil, my kid can play this" which can go as long as you keep all your titles roughly equally dramatic
HOWEVER, when you start exploring themes like "where does meat come from" or "what happens if you hurt people", you would anger parents who had to calm their kids down or got questions from their kids that they didn't expect
This is where Palworld fits in: It's a creature collector that took the Pokemon formula, and added guns and animal abuse and slavery Parents who take more than 5 seconds to check a title would find out "oh, this is like GTA" and deny their child access since it's violent etc., which leads to Palworld having an older audience that can see darker stuff like "what happens if I beat this person to death with a shovel", but also show younger themes like "what happens if you hit a dead horse with a shovel" etc.
And here's the thing: Part of your friendly-faces-and-cuteness demographic would also buy an animal-abuse-and-slavery version of the same game, since they're adults and would like to see something darker or different to what they normally see
Look at how many people did crossover stuff with Animal Crossing and Doom, and consider that some people stand in the store and think "do I want a game about living in a town with talking animals, or do I want a game about killing demons on mars" before buying both because both titles fit certain interests of theirs and they had enough money
Does everyone want to live in a town with talking animals? No. Does everyone want to kill demons on mars? No. Is there a group who would play both games? Absolutely!
My point: N/GF/TPC needs to make a spinoff company that uses darker themes in their respective existing franchises, but camouflaged under notably different identities
TL:DR; Companies need to realise that their audience isn't a single uniform mass but many different people with their own idea of fun
bananfisk said: TL:DR; Companies need to realise that their audience isn't a single uniform mass but many different people with their own idea of fun
With respect to the collapsed section:
Rebuttal
The issue with doing this is that Nintendo sets itself apart specifically by being more family-friendly than its main competition (Sony and Microsoft). While it did at one point have studios that handled darker subject matter, the shit doesn't generally sell on a Nintendo console.
There is a reason Eternal Darkness and Fatal Frame are cult classics, and Geist was DOA.
bongani said: With respect to the collapsed section:
Rebuttal
The issue with doing this is that Nintendo sets itself apart specifically by being more family-friendly than its main competition (Sony and Microsoft). While it did at one point have studios that handled darker subject matter, the shit doesn't generally sell on a Nintendo console.
There is a reason Eternal Darkness and Fatal Frame are cult classics, and Geist was DOA.
I played the hell out of Geist. It was a really fun concept
ifonlyif said: I played the hell out of Geist. It was a really fun concept
The same could be said of Mad World, which had everything going for it for a dark stylish-action game with ultraviolence and a Sin City-esque colour scheme.....
femalefucker said: Where is the proof on the stolen designs and machine generation? I know the main person who made the game loves ai and the designs in the game are based off pokemon designs, but you it’s good to have proof.
Hasn't been used, it was originally spread by a person whos imply said that stuff because they didn't agree with the way palls were treated in the game. They even admitted to it not to long ago that that was the ONLY reason he spread such slander around.
It's sad really, how many vultures flock to a actual successful and talented dev team just because they are indie devs and they decided to have their own twist on something.
muzumiru said: It's sad really, how many vultures flock to a actual successful and talented dev team just because they are indie devs and they decided to have their own twist on something.
(points to their previous game, Craftopia, which looks like abandonware)
something_secret said: Even though it says it in the Pokédex entry, I think more research will be required. You know, to ensure accuracy and reliability of the data.
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user 1704096
MemberEven though it says it in the Pokédex entry, I think more research will be required. You know, to ensure accuracy and reliability of the data.
Quantum pluss
MemberGotta love it when devs are just like “yeah our target audience likes porn and we're gonna actively acknowledge that we knew what we were doing"
Jarlium
MemberOn it. Starting drawing now
Quantum pluss
MemberWouldn't be opposed to seeing katress, I can see it and meowscrada together on a post in the future
IceBlazeWinters
Membersalazzle's pheromones affect humans and salazzle turns humans into sex slaves to be a part of it's harem
user 1704096
MemberAnd people say you can’t manifest your dreams into reality.
DirtyRatMatt
MemberThank you for your service.
kamelagram
MemberSalazzle has a slow mind-break where you lose yourself in the mix of her passion, pheromones and service and reward. A mistress and her pet that live entwined in pleasure.
Lovander don't have time for that, and Lovander doesn't need Pheromones. Lovander has 5 of it's buddies. They see your base with all those cute juicy Pals and your own cute ass, and they coming for em. You best be on your guard with some strong Pals to back you up, cause willing or not, you will be used.
ToasterHopps
Memberlooks like salazzle has some stiff competition.
FemaleFucker
MemberWhere is the proof on the stolen designs and machine generation? I know the main person who made the game loves ai and the designs in the game are based off pokemon designs, but you it’s good to have proof.
VerySadFox
MemberRegardless of ai use or not palworld seems to be what many pokemon fans wanted out of Gamefreak and Nintendo for years and the numbers back it up. As for them being just 'ripoffs' of pokemon designs let's stop pretending that pokemon ever was 100% original in the first place, plenty pull inspiration from folklore, religion, popular media etc. or even basic things like animals that live/lived on Earth. It's one thing to make a ripoff but it's a difficult task to make a ripoff that satisfies the customer of the thing you rip off and makes them choose your product over the "OG" thing
Jasowan
MemberI thank God for letting me exist in the same timeline as Palworld
Bongani
MemberI want TPC to change with the times but this pretty much isn't it.
If I want a dark, gritty Pokemon, I'll turn towards Atlus and Shin Megami Tensei or its sister series Persona. (This was the point I was trying to make with my last comment here; Pokemon has always had the dark gritty competitor since before it came into existence.)
And I'm not a fan of survivalcraft games like ARK in the first place, so Palworld just comes off to me as "We have Devil Summoner: Raidou Kuzunoha at home" to me.
VerySadFox
MemberAnd yet most Pokemon fans didn't run to Shin Megami Tensei. Perhaps it's not the gritty and dark that people searched for all these years and that's not the core of its popularity, either way we are all entitled to liking what gives us a moment of relaxation regardless of what others say. Many enjoy their time in Palworld others do so by playing Candy Crush and yet another group partakes in CBT sessions in League of Legends for some reason but I or anyone else shouldn't dictate what other people should play
Bongani
MemberThey also didn't run to Cassette Beasts, Dragon Quest Monsters, Nexomon, Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance, or really any other game in Pokemon's genre. Almost all of which have meatier and less-lighthearted plotlines than Pokemon without delving into the "Everything's already fucked" malaise of Megami Tensei.
And that's the problem. Palworld's ambit (open-world survivalcraft) is far different from the tactical J(A)RPGs the games above are, and fits closer to something like ARK (its most direct gameplay inspiration) or Rust. It's hard to make an argument about competition when you're comparing NFL teams to NBA teams.
When most of your direct competition is hardly blowing up sales charts and the hottest thing is in a genre that is mainly dominated by Western studios (due to Japan mostly having a different view on how storytelling should work in video games), why would you bother to compete against it in a genre you don't understand and which your domestic audience wouldn't be particularly interested in? Again, TPC needs to change, but Palworld isn't going to be the fire under their arse to force it along.
robman34
MemberBuying Palworld now.
BananFisk
Member(Sidenote: this started out as an reply, but eventually evolved into overthinking)
(Also, I haven't played neither Palworld or a Pokemon title yet)
My opinion on the subject (long)
Another problem with a dark entry into a series mostly advertised towards the family-safe demographic, where kids are as welcome as adults and teens, is the family safe aspect
Building this world full of friendly faces and cuteness WILL attract children and their parents will go "This doesn't look evil, my kid can play this" which can go as long as you keep all your titles roughly equally dramatic
HOWEVER, when you start exploring themes like "where does meat come from" or "what happens if you hurt people", you would anger parents who had to calm their kids down or got questions from their kids that they didn't expect
This is where Palworld fits in: It's a creature collector that took the Pokemon formula, and added guns and animal abuse and slavery
Parents who take more than 5 seconds to check a title would find out "oh, this is like GTA" and deny their child access since it's violent etc., which leads to Palworld having an older audience that can see darker stuff like "what happens if I beat this person to death with a shovel", but also show younger themes like "what happens if you hit a dead horse with a shovel" etc.
And here's the thing: Part of your friendly-faces-and-cuteness demographic would also buy an animal-abuse-and-slavery version of the same game, since they're adults and would like to see something darker or different to what they normally see
Look at how many people did crossover stuff with Animal Crossing and Doom, and consider that some people stand in the store and think "do I want a game about living in a town with talking animals, or do I want a game about killing demons on mars" before buying both because both titles fit certain interests of theirs and they had enough money
Does everyone want to live in a town with talking animals? No.
Does everyone want to kill demons on mars? No.
Is there a group who would play both games? Absolutely!
My point: N/GF/TPC needs to make a spinoff company that uses darker themes in their respective existing franchises, but camouflaged under notably different identities
TL:DR; Companies need to realise that their audience isn't a single uniform mass but many different people with their own idea of fun
Bongani
MemberWith respect to the collapsed section:
Rebuttal
The issue with doing this is that Nintendo sets itself apart specifically by being more family-friendly than its main competition (Sony and Microsoft). While it did at one point have studios that handled darker subject matter, the shit doesn't generally sell on a Nintendo console.
There is a reason Eternal Darkness and Fatal Frame are cult classics, and Geist was DOA.
IfOnlyIf
MemberI played the hell out of Geist. It was a really fun concept
Bongani
MemberThe same could be said of Mad World, which had everything going for it for a dark stylish-action game with ultraviolence and a Sin City-esque colour scheme.....
...except for the fact it was on the Wii.
ALIABG
MemberNot sure where this comment section is going. I'm just here to appreciate dat ass.
MuzuMiru
MemberHasn't been used, it was originally spread by a person whos imply said that stuff because they didn't agree with the way palls were treated in the game. They even admitted to it not to long ago that that was the ONLY reason he spread such slander around.
It's sad really, how many vultures flock to a actual successful and talented dev team just because they are indie devs and they decided to have their own twist on something.
Bongani
Member(points to their previous game, Craftopia, which looks like abandonware)
Shadow-Six
MemberYeah, because getting a big update in December 2023 is abandonware...
Beep
MemberI think Dr. Harkness already covered that....
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