clipclopachoo said:
I always love your work, but this is a really crude depiction of a Sallie. Her face is great but almost everything else is conservative coded.

what ? I just thought she looked hot with body hair, if that's what you're talking about I don't see why it is "conservative coded" to like women with body hair ??

clipclopachoo said:
Nope, you can like women with body hair, that’s not my point. This is a very manly depiction of a already established trans character (that is feminine in her presentation). It looks like what conservatives see trans women as.

Idc if you draw your OC’s like that but it’s strange seeing Sallie depicted like this.

If I want to represent a more realistic representation of a trans body I feel like it is very stupid to call it "conservative" + cis girls have body hair too + please go outside + ratio

starlyve said:
If I want to represent a more realistic representation of a trans body I feel like it is very stupid to call it "conservative" + cis girls have body hair too + please go outside + ratio

Okay… I think you’re missing my point. I would say there is a difference between “more realistic trans bodies” and giving an established trans woman character that presents as female a dad bod. If you want to make a trans woman OC with a body like this, then go nuts. Honestly that would probably be a hot concept for one of the control collar drawings. I’m just saying it is strange to see Sallie, a known trans character with a defined femme look, portrayed in this way. I’m trans myself, and it makes me (and certainly others) uncomfortable to see her this way. I’m not asking to see a ‘passing body’, I’m cool with more realistic trans bodies being represented, but this is in the deep end of masculine.

I’m not sure why you’re implying I think cis women don’t have body hair. If you re-read the first sentence of my previous comment, I’ve already stated so. You’re free to like what you like, and women are free to choose what they do with their bodies. The body hair isn’t the problem. And I’m not saying that drawing non-passing trans bodies is conservative or anything, I’m saying the way you drew Sallie here is the way conservatives believe all trans women look, which is bound to cause some people to feel uncomfortable. That’s all I meant by the conservative comment, but upon rereading it, that was unclear in my first comment, so I apologize for that.

It seems like this discussion isn’t going anywhere. At the end of the day this is a porn website, downvote me and goon to whatever you like. I have been civil with you, and I know I’d be ‘ratioed’ regardless due to commenting something here that isn’t positive when you’ve got a following on this site. I’m gonna try going outside like you mentioned, happy jerking all, and best of luck with future art endeavours Starlyve. I do love your work, and I look forward to seeing more.

clipclopachoo said:
Okay… I think you’re missing my point. I would say there is a difference between “more realistic trans bodies” and giving an established trans woman character that presents as female a dad bod. If you want to make a trans woman OC with a body like this, then go nuts. Honestly that would probably be a hot concept for one of the control collar drawings. I’m just saying it is strange to see Sallie, a known trans character with a defined femme look, portrayed in this way. I’m trans myself, and it makes me (and certainly others) uncomfortable to see her this way. I’m not asking to see a ‘passing body’, I’m cool with more realistic trans bodies being represented, but this is in the deep end of masculine.

I’m not sure why you’re implying I think cis women don’t have body hair. If you re-read the first sentence of my previous comment, I’ve already stated so. You’re free to like what you like, and women are free to choose what they do with their bodies. The body hair isn’t the problem. And I’m not saying that drawing non-passing trans bodies is conservative or anything, I’m saying the way you drew Sallie here is the way conservatives believe all trans women look, which is bound to cause some people to feel uncomfortable. That’s all I meant by the conservative comment, but upon rereading it, that was unclear in my first comment, so I apologize for that.

It seems like this discussion isn’t going anywhere. At the end of the day this is a porn website, downvote me and goon to whatever you like. I have been civil with you, and I know I’d be ‘ratioed’ regardless due to commenting something here that isn’t positive when you’ve got a following on this site. I’m gonna try going outside like you mentioned, happy jerking all, and best of luck with future art endeavours Starlyve. I do love your work, and I look forward to seeing more.

God i love this site

roswvoop said:
God i love this site

Me too! I didn’t realize how effective commenting would be at showing a creators true colours lol. I’m not a subscribestar supporter anymore but I will still enjoy her free content for sure.

clipclopachoo said:
Me too! I didn’t realize how effective commenting would be at showing a creators true colours lol. I’m not a subscribestar supporter anymore but I will still enjoy her free content for sure.

crazy how you subbed for incest and bestiality art but you draw the line at body hair on a fictionnal character, y'all are insane.. People are right the Helluva boss community is cringe af

starlyve said:
crazy how you subbed for incest and bestiality art but you draw the line at body hair on a fictionnal character, y'all are insane.. People are right the Helluva boss community is cringe af

You’re getting really hung up on the body hair for some reason, that is not my problem with this image. I have said that multiple times at this point.

I didn’t sub for incest/bestiality, that makes its way into most of your work but I enjoyed the control collar/app stuff and thought you implemented that in creative ways, and wanted to support that and see more. Unfortunately I had a large surprise fee come out of nowhere a while back so I had to cut back a lot of my subscriptions while I am paying it off, including the subscribestar subscription. Seeing how you behave here though is upsetting. At least I can save a bit of money when I get back on my feet.

I’m not part of the Helluva boss community, I haven’t seen all the episodes yet, but I am fond of Sallie because I think she’s great trans representation, and I like the character designs in the show overall. You seem to like her as much or more than I do, seeing as you’ve taken the time to draw her for your ‘fan art’ day of kinktober, so have fun being part of the Helluva boss community, I guess?

PS: Keep feeding me dislikes that will make my point invalid

-transphobia tag removed as this post does not imply or show anything even remotely relating to transphobia

clipclopachoo said:
You’re getting really hung up on the body hair for some reason, that is not my problem with this image. I have said that multiple times at this point.

I didn’t sub for incest/bestiality, that makes its way into most of your work but I enjoyed the control collar/app stuff and thought you implemented that in creative ways, and wanted to support that and see more. Unfortunately I had a large surprise fee come out of nowhere a while back so I had to cut back a lot of my subscriptions while I am paying it off, including the subscribestar subscription. Seeing how you behave here though is upsetting. At least I can save a bit of money when I get back on my feet.

I’m not part of the Helluva boss community, I haven’t seen all the episodes yet, but I am fond of Sallie because I think she’s great trans representation, and I like the character designs in the show overall. You seem to like her as much or more than I do, seeing as you’ve taken the time to draw her for your ‘fan art’ day of kinktober, so have fun being part of the Helluva boss community, I guess?

PS: Keep feeding me dislikes that will make my point invalid

You are insane that's crazy I think it is a pretty normal thing to be upset when someone calls my art transphobic and go as far as to add a fucking transphobia tag to it for no fucking reason like get a grip of yourself what the fuck is going on in your head ?
also I've watched the show, it's mid at best, I drew her because people suggested her for the theme, and a character with like 2s of screentime and no trans traits whatsoever isn't that much of a "great trans representation" please go get some media literacy instead of calling out transphobia where there isn't
Feel free to come back when you'll realize that your comments and reaction are not as valid as you think they are..

clipclopachoo said: ...

Alright, that's enough from you.

The rest of y'all – if you see an obvious troll like this, please just report them instead of engaging.
Thanks.

I find the implication from that guy that a conservative would be drawing trans porn in the first place just to then make it "transphobic" hilarious. 8/8 bait, got a chuckle out of me.