I don't see anything on the source about tagging.

Omnomynous said:
You won't find it there. The conversation happened hours after the post.

Luckily, I thought something like this would happen, so
Here's a link to a pastebin on the subject
Beleth is PK in the discussion, and is very serious about taking their stuff down. So please, no touching.

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Omnomynous said:
Here's a link to a pastebin on the subject
Beleth is PK in the discussion, and is very serious about taking their stuff down. So please, no touching.

Oh man, don't remove pk's stuff :/
Why do people get so upset about TWYS? We're just going by what's shown in the picture, why's that so bad? I guess having 'gender' tags does not make sense in that context, yeah.
But it's not like everyone on this site is transphobic/ignorant or whatever because of that rule. Noones actively trying to offend you.

Also question to pk, if gender is completely removed from/unrelated to physical sex then what's the point of having it? Would you just get rid of it all? I'm really not trying to be a dick here, just trying to understand.

Man, I like PK's stuff, but as per usual stop following any artist that DNP's on E6.

Thought he was better then that . . .

It is literally the rules of the site to tag what you see. and when a post is gender tagged, we're exclusively tagging for PHYSICAL sex. Our tagging system does not have gender disphoria tags, and calling this post female is physically inaccurate. If the character represents themself as female, that's fine, but maybe for clarity gender disphoria should become a real tag?

to be honest I almost want to remove all the gender tags and just tag male, because tag what you see. I see a very feminine build male, with literally no female reproductive organs to be seen.

Oh no, how terrible it would be to lose a tiny drop in the porn bucket of e6 because the artist and the people that suck their e-peen are the most illogical people in the world and can't figure out the TWYS system or why it's implemented on an image gallery website which hosts single images and not portfolios of an artist's work.

How terrible it is that e6 uses a totally logical system of tagging to allow its users to enjoy/fap to any single image they wish to enjoy/fap to. Indeed, how terribly insulting it must be for this average-quality artist to have their average-quality art hosted next to art from some of the greatest pron artists around since the average-quality artist can't get their art to be tagged exactly how they want every single time, despite the fact their proposed tags are completely wrong in terms of this site's rules and the tags the site gives work perfectly in context to what the site is and does.

Oh yes, how unfair, terrible, evil people the e6ers must be to not be ruled by completely random and utterly arbitrary tags and rules made up on the whims and random thoughts of staff, artists, hosts, and every other joe schmoe on the nets.

Indeed.

@AnotherDay:
Way to pour out the deprecatory sarcasm, very classy.

We recently had the change with the "gay"/"straight" tags being replaced to clear up the notion that it's only about the sexual interactions you see, not orientation.
The gender thing is not as easy to fix. For the purpose of our tagging "male" just means "person who has no boobs or vagina, but a penis" and "female" means "person who has a boobs and a vagina only". It's strictly physical sex, other notions of gender are completely lost.
Some people -- especially transgender etc. -- don't feel that their characters are accurately categorized by that.
That's the way I perceive it.

The thing is, how would you change it? Tag "penisdude" and "pussyboobsgal" instead? I don't see any other solution as practical as the current. People wanna search for shit and interpret it as their own fapping fantasy, often not caring for the authors nuances of the characters involved.

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Either way apparently the dickgirl tag is allowed to stay, so crisis averted. And just btw, PK is anything but "average-quality" imho, dude.

P.S.: _{Same for "dickgirl"/"cuntboy" being perceived as degrading to trans characters. I'm pretty sure it's more a case of tagging fantastical creatures. It's practical. But I understand the concerns, kinda. I guess.}

@Emserdalf
I don't always do deprecatory sarcasm, but when I do I honestly feel the target has stepped in it hard enough they completely deserve it. Is it rude? Yeah. Does it win me any points with anyone? Nah. I don't enjoy it. Generally I try to stay neutral and unbiased yet sometimes someone's reaction to something is so outrageous and silly that I can't help but react in an equally outrageous fashion. Well, outrageous for me, anyway.

Not that I need to explain myself, I suppose, but today's a weird day and I'm garnering some semblance of amusement from doing this, so here it is!

No matter. This website isn't about "other notions of gender." As has been said countless times before and will, no doubt, be said countless times after this - this is an image hosting website. It is designed to allow the users to browse images at their leisure. The tags are there for the single purpose to allow finding images catering to a person's kinks, fantasies, wants, etc, easier.

Tags like the artist tag allow people to find more by that specific artist if they like the style, in this case a very average and simply adequate style. If people realized this and took a course in common sense they'd find no issue with tags like "dickgirl" or "gay." Of course, most don't take the effort to educate themselves about the environments they stumble into and just assume that how it's done in other places is how it should be done everywhere else. That's what causes the conflict more than anything.

Now on sites like furaffinity, there's no tagging standard, which is fine because the community has made their own tags and it works well enough, artists tag what the character is to them and people often enough search explicitly in that way for certain characters. It works there because artists have their own pages, can promote their own stuff, and it is, truly, artist oriented. That is not, and hopefully never will be, the case here.

Here is for the collection, storage, and display of various pieces of art. This collection is sorted via tags which are determined by what can be factually seen in the piece itself.

Unless it's MLP. In which case you can tag it anything and get away with it because apparently the administration is afraid of the bronies and refuses to make their MLP images adhere to the same standards the rest of us do. Yet, I digress, that is a whole other discussion for another time.

I realize I've been fairly redundant here, yet for the other people that might read this I may have to be for them to fully understand what I'm saying. Not because of them, no, because of me. I often have troubles properly communicating my thoughts without reiterating them in other words; so everyone has my apologies in that.

Wow, I sure did bump a hornet's nest with this, didn't I?

@AnotherDay:
Pretty much how I see it too. The tagging system is fine the way it is if you ask me. I was just sort of playing devil's advocate here trying to understand why people often seem to have a problem with certain tags. That's all.
And then on the opposite end of the spectrum are people who immediatly turn into super defensive jerks about the holy TWYS rule. I don't get it sometimes. I guess that's why I called you out on the tone of your comment. No offense. You seem like a reasonable person actually. :)

@Emserdalf

I am reasonable, sometimes! Othertimes I'm a total nob. It depends on the day, the weather, what lunar cycle it is, what this year's Chinese Zodiac is, whether my own symbol is in power, what this year's other Zodiac is, whether my symbol for it is in power, and.. well.. you know, a few trillion other things.

But.. when it all aligns just perfectly I can be a halfway decent person. :P

I noticed you seemed to have the same general views, I was just being redundant and as totally transparent as I could be. Anyway, good talk! You're not so bad yourself, for someone who's name starts with an "E." I'm totally e-cist. I can't help it. E's are to the alphabet as green is to the color spectrum. /sagenod

To be honest E6 should not give a shit what that artist wants their things to be tagged as. The RULE is "Tag what you SEE" I see a character with female characteristics and a cock, nothing more. There is nothing showing that this character is a "Female" or a "Dick girl". If the artist does not like the rules here they can leave.

ZerglingWithNoPants said:
To be honest E6 should not give a shit what that artist wants their things to be tagged as. The RULE is "Tag what you SEE" I see a character with female characteristics and a cock, nothing more. There is nothing showing that this character is a "Female" or a "Dick girl". If the artist does not like the rules here they can leave.

Very well. RIP PK's art.

Whelp, looks like Mutisija will be changing this back to girly+male... and I kinda do see why.
There are no breasts visible and just a penis, so it makes sense. I'd argue that the body type is feminine enough and the chest obscured by a chest_tuft that we can keep it as dickgirl. That would have the benefit of keeping purplekecleons art here.
Point in case: Other stuff you can find under dickgirl -breasts solo like post #644843.

Why y'all gotta be so darn stubborn? That goes for both sides. I:

@Omnomynous: Do you just want to incite drama?

Emserdalf said:
Whelp, looks like Mutisija will be changing this back to girly+male... and I kinda do see why.
There are no breasts visible and just a penis, so it makes sense. I'd argue that the body type is feminine enough and the chest obscured by a chest_tuft that we can keep it as dickgirl. That would have the benefit of keeping purplekecleons art here.
Point in case: Other stuff you can find under dickgirl -breasts solo like post #644843.

Why y'all gotta be so darn stubborn? That goes for both sides. I:

@Omnomynous: Do you just want to incite drama?

All of those that I looked at have implied breasts.

Emserdalf said:
Whelp, looks like Mutisija will be changing this back to girly+male... and I kinda do see why.
There are no breasts visible and just a penis, so it makes sense. I'd argue that the body type is feminine enough and the chest obscured by a chest_tuft that we can keep it as dickgirl. That would have the benefit of keeping purplekecleons art here.
Point in case: Other stuff you can find under dickgirl -breasts solo like post #644843.

Why y'all gotta be so darn stubborn? That goes for both sides. I:

@Omnomynous: Do you just want to incite drama?

Its too late. The decision has already been made. No drama, just the inevitable.

ZerglingWithNoPants said:
To be honest E6 should not give a shit what that artist wants their things to be tagged as. The RULE is "Tag what you SEE" I see a character with female characteristics and a cock, nothing more. There is nothing showing that this character is a "Female" or a "Dick girl". If the artist does not like the rules here they can leave.

Don't see why you first added the girly tag, someone removed it, Mutisija added it back (as well as set it to male) and then you removed it again... The character has wide hips, what could be interpreted as long eyelashes, hearts and pink color scheme, all stereotypical female attributes and is more than enough for the girly tag to stay.

This gets the girly and male tags. Any continued tag warring will result in punitive action.