Topic: Reverse the ponification and furrification aliases

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Currently we have anthrofied, humanized and the little-used feralized, but ponified and furrified are aliased to ponification and furrification. Whenever I've mentioned this inconsistency, people seemed on board that it would be better if the tags were all in the adjectival form.

Additionally, reversing this relation opens up the possibility of repurposing the -tion tags as transformation-focused tags (e.g. post #128942, post #128932 or post #306735).

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I agree that ponification and furrification have more of a transformation effect, in my opinion we should un-alias them but furrified seems to be pointless, i think anthrofied can cover furrified even if it deviates a bit from the meaning, and ponified can be its own thing.

That's what i think.

ponification -> something being transformed into a pony (expressed in the image)
ponified -> known character being depicted as a pony
furrified -> anthrofied
furrification -> something being transformed into a furry (expressed in the image)

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I was under the impression that furrified is clearly for nonfurry -> furry version whereas anthrofied is for feral furry -> anthro furry versions.

That is, one implies alternative_species/species_swap, the other does not; one is the reverse of humanized, the other is the reverse of feralized etc.

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Circeus said:
I was under the impression that furrified is clearly for nonfurry -> furry version whereas anthrofied is for feral furry -> anthro furry versions.

That is, one implies alternative_species/species_swap, the other does not; one is the reverse of humanized, the other is the reverse of feralized etc.

Furrified definitely implies things like bill nye being made into an anthro fox. It's hard to call this anthrofied when you can't get any more anthro than human.

The suffixes should be the shorter -ied/ized/ised form whenever possible (in my opinion) simply because -ation doesn't really work for some terms very well and their are too many combinations (-ation, ization, -isation, ification, etc.) to be practical, most would be chosen simply because they scan properly (ponification, anthroization). Since we prefer the American form, we should use -ied/ized instead of -ised.

The -ation for just transformation may work in theory, but in practice I believe it has far too much likelihood for getting confused with the furrified/etc. tags. I think tagging transformation with furrified/ponified/anthrofied/etc. will work well enough to narrow these cases down without having to resort to a confusing new set of prefixes to tag and correct. Bonus: Most of the transformation are already tagged.

Summary of my thoughts:

(utterly ignoring naga/centaur/etc. for the moment)

  • Furrified: Non-furry -> furry
    • Non-furry as in having nothing to do with furries such as most Star Trek characters, real life humans, etc.
  • Ponified: Similar to furrified, but anything non-mlp -> mlp.
    • For example renamon, bill nye, and balto drawn in mlp style. It's common enough to retain as a tag.
    • For practicality's sake, I think we shouldn't implicate furrified, even though some consider pony to be furry. Both because of the argument itself (which will never be resolved for many people) and because otherwise ponies would get dumped into furrified, which would obviously be irritating to some.
    • We may want to consider implying ponified -> my_little_pony, if only for blacklisting purposes. In the case of a non-"mlp style" pony/equine (epona from Zelda) furrified would do just fine.

Note that "non-furry" above refers to non-furry fandom, as in having nothing to do with the furry fandom, and having very little overlap in content.

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Genjar

Former Staff

parasprite said:
Furrified definitely implies things like bill nye being made into an anthro fox. It's hard to call this anthrofied when you can't get any more anthro than human.

Yep. Furrified used to be a tag for "non-furry turned into furry", before it got aliased into furrification. It's still mostly used that way (because we don't have other tags for the concept), so it can't be aliased into anthrofied.

Current wiki says that it's also for "animal character drawn as anthropomorph", but that should be anthrofied instead of furrification.

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Genjar said:
Yep. Furrified used to be a tag for "non-furry turned into furry", before it got aliased into furrification. It's still mostly used that way (because we don't have other tags for the concept), so it can't be aliased into anthrofied.

Current wiki says that it's also for "animal character drawn as anthropomorph", but that should be anthrofied instead of furrification.

furrification - Does this look a little better?

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Genjar

Former Staff

parasprite said:
furrification - Does this look a little better?

Much better. Excellent work, as usual.

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Yeah all the alternate species/form subtags should stick with the same naming convention, but is -fied really the best destination?

snpthecat said:
Yeah all the alternate species/form subtags should stick with the same naming convention, but is -fied really the best destination?

What alternative would you suggest?

aaronfranke said:
What alternative would you suggest?

Theres -ized and -ification, and the latter seems like a good alternative, though of course it may have a problem with being mistaken for a transformation tag

snpthecat said:
Theres -ized and -ification, and the latter seems like a good alternative, though of course it may have a problem with being mistaken for a transformation tag

The entire point of this thread is arguing that -ified is better than -ification because -ification sounds like transformation.

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