Aliasing amazon_position → the_amazon
Link to alias

Reason:

It can be called the amazon position but I think it's more commonly known as The Amazon. (even though this position isn't commonly known at all)

I say reverse it. Sounds better to use _position suffixes to me.

Agreed with FG, can be mixed up with the amazon basin etc

Furrin_Gok said:
I say reverse it. Sounds better to use _position suffixes to me.

I don't mind either way, I just thought The Amazon would sound more natural. Like no one calls missionary, the missionary position.

The_Diggler said:
I don't mind either way, I just thought The Amazon would sound more natural. Like no one calls missionary, the missionary position.

We do, see: missionary_position.

Furrin_Gok said:
We do, see: missionary_position.

ah, well then I don't really see a need for it to change either then :D

post #593766 post #719601 post #727441 post #814640 post #704188

I can't make any sense out of this tagging. How are all of those supposed to be the same position?

Third would fit best under reverse_cowgirl, and fourth is reverse_missionary. Second one is a variant of piledriver_position, and the first resembles reverse_piledriver, but would probably fit best under unusual_position. Since it's not possible in real life. Fifth one is the only one that's actually amazon_position.

Genjar said:
post #593766 post #719601 post #727441 post #704188

I can't make any sense out of this tagging. How are all of those supposed to be the same position?

variations to it. But the position of the subs legs and the doms body is the key to it. the dom has to be straddling the sub and using the subs dick against them also the subs legs have to be either over their own head or wrapped around the dom. Their are variations to it but it's the same thing.

Genjar said:
post #593766 post #719601 post #727441 post #814640 post #704188

I can't make any sense out of this tagging. How are all of those supposed to be the same position?

Third would fit best under reverse_cowgirl, and fourth is reverse_missionary. Second one is a variant of piledriver_position, and the first resembles reverse_piledriver, but would probably fit best under unusual_position. Since it's not possible in real life. Fifth one is the only one that's actually amazon_position.

none of these images are reverse cowgirl or reverse missionary. the subs legs make the difference between reverse cowgirl and amazon. and the fourth is not reverse missionary. again. the subs legs are important. but the first and second I don't believe are amazon position either.

the whole point of reverse cowgirl is the top is riding the bottom like well...a cowgirl.

but with amazon the top is pretty much using the bottoms dick like it's their own to thrust into themselves. It's hard to explain but if you need an idea of the difference you should look up the two positions on a porn site. the difference becomes clear.

The_Diggler said:
none of these images are reverse cowgirl. the subs legs make the difference between reverse cowgirl and amazon.

I could kind of see it working for the fourth one.
The sub in the third is a feral, which always makes it difficult to tag positions. But that definitely looks like reversed amazon to me, which doesn't exist as a tag. Reverse_cowgirl would be the closest, unless we create a reverse_amazon_position tag. Which might be worth adding.

Genjar said:
I could kind of see it working for the fourth one.
The sub in the third is a feral, which always makes it difficult to tag positions. But that definitely looks like reversed amazon to me, which doesn't exist as a tag. Reverse_cowgirl would be the closest, unless we create a reverse_amazon_position tag.

I don't see why we wouldn't make a reverse_amazon_position tag if the choice is to tag it correctly or tag it wrong.

You can do a google search for reverse amazon position and it comes right up. There are even variations to the amazon position.

main points to the amazon are.
1. Straddling
2. Legs raised
3. legs wrapped around waist or being lifted

This is just a matter of knowing what it looks like. Which most people don't because they haven't heard of this move before.

FWIW, this is a rather common position in some h-manga, and treated as such by the authors/characters [citation needed]

The_Diggler said:
I don't see why we wouldn't make a reverse_amazon_position tag if the choice is to tag it correctly or tag it wrong.

I wouldn't object to that. There's already reverse_piledriver_position, reverse_missionary_position, etc. It'd be consistent to tag both amazon_position and reverse_amazon_position, and as titanmelon pointed out, there's a lot of those.

Like you said, some users might get confused by the high amount of position tags, but that's what the wiki is for. I've been thinking that tag group:sex positions should be expanded to include example thumbnails, for easy visual reference.

titanmelon said:
FWIW, this is a rather common position in some h-manga, and treated as such by the authors/characters [citation needed]

really? I've only seen one or two. the most recent was in a hentai but other than that I haven't seen any. Could you tell me of a few references you know?

Genjar said:
[..]unless we create a reverse_amazon_position tag. Which might be worth adding.

At the very least, it's a recognized position separate from the reverse

Found a contemporary example here[external link]

Seems to be called 'The Ape', which is even more misleading than the reverse_* ones

sounds fine to me, since it has the distinct elements Diggler pointed out (straddle, angle of penetration, top/bottom poition etc.)

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The_Diggler said:
really? I've only seen one or two. the most recent was in a hentai but other than that I haven't seen any. Could you tell me of a few references you know?

I should clarify that they're relatively common within certain niches (of which h-manga is in itself in the west)

In your typical fxm femdom, hardcore mxm yaoi, girly male or trap f x m or m x m scenes, both are relatively common

Can't name any off to top of my head, but if you search through any competent artist's portfolio who specializes in the above, then they're bound to turn up in more cases than not

Reversed alias and approved

I will leave this thread unlocked, but I would like to ask that we move any further discussion to forum #184801 (since most of the discussion seems to be happening over there).

Would this be reverse_amazon_position with an intersex character who has a vagina?
https://e621.net/post/show/422712

CrankyCat said:
Would this be reverse_amazon_position with an intersex character who has a vagina?
https://e621.net/post/show/422712

yes