Topic: Comment_war tag?

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

So we have lol_comments for when a post gets a lot of comments making jokes and other shenanigans. I think there should be a comment war tag as well.

I'm sure all of us have been a soldier in some dumbass comment war one time or another. <.< I know I have. and I'm sure some people would rather avoid that. So maybe there could be a tag to help them.

Or maybe some people just want to watch the world burn and they could have fun reading the comments. :D

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Qmannn said:
Using a tag to avoid conflict indicates a lack of self control and using it to look for arguments to get involved with or view just seems like looking for trouble.

The tag could be used as a means of reporting these conflicts and allowing the staff to come to a conclusion about how it should be handled, assuming nothing that can be clearly reported has been done yet.

Whatever gets your rocks off man. But i don't understand what you mean by a lack of self control. Some people just don't want to see other peoples shit, I can understand that. I don't think they'll feel the need to join in.

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I have a feeling comment_war is glorifying stupid arguments.

lol_comments is there because everyone is laughing at the people having a stupid argument :P

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Qmannn said:
By lack of self control, I mean that, instead of just choosing to not partake in these arguments, you need a tool to help you avoid them altogether.

I see what you're saying but wouldn't that mean the same for every single person on this site that uses a black list? If it's ok to have a list solely there for you to avoid certain images I don't see why we can't have a tag there to avoid certain conversations.

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Ratte

Former Staff

Qmannn said:
Choosing to partake in a conversation you don't like is akin to complaining about and downvoting posts you don't like.

Sure, you can't know what a conversation is going to have beforehand, but e621 is tagged based on the content uploaded, not comments. It's the first thing you see after opening a post and the only thing you see when searching. Restrictions are used so that you're more easily finding what you want without having to spend time wading through things you don't or may even be bothered by.

The comments are something you have to go out of your way to see and participate in. If I don't like the conversation, I just scroll back up most of the time. I'm confused as to why lol_comments is even a thing.

Because sometimes people have a sense of humor and like to read internet slappyfights.

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Genjar

Former Staff

I'm not a fan of it either, but that's mainly because both funny comments and drama are all mixed in under the same tag. I'd search for the former, but have no interest in the latter. And with there being no way of telling which is which without actually reading the comments... well, that's too time consuming.

So yes, I'd almost support the idea of adding a comment_war tag. Except someone would have to go through the whole lol_comments and sort it out. Urgh.

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Genjar said:
I'm not a fan of it either, but that's mainly because both funny comments and drama are all mixed in under the same tag. I'd search for the former, but have no interest in the latter. And with there being no way of telling which is which without actually reading the comments... well, that's too time consuming.

So yes, I'd almost support the idea of adding a comment_war tag. Except someone would have to go through the whole lol_comments and sort it out. Urgh.

I'm sure someone would. People are weird like that.

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The idea of a tag for comment_war sounds like a horrible idea. When a war erupts, an admin typically swoops in and clears out the malicious and spiteful comments

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Furrin_Gok said:
The idea of a tag for comment_war sounds like a horrible idea. When a war erupts, an admin typically swoops in and clears out the malicious and spiteful comments

I've never seen that even once. Admin just tells everyone to stop and punishes some people.

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The_Diggler said:
I've never seen that even once. Admin just tells everyone to stop and punishes some people.

They usually arrive before the truly malicious ones. I've seen a few comments get removed.

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I wouldn't mind a comment_war tag.

And Qmannn, it has literally nothing to do with self control. I'm not sure where you're even getting that. It is possible to not want to see people fighting over dumb stuff because you don't like seeing people fighting over dumb stuff, even if you have no desire to join in. It is also possible to want to see that sort of thing specifically, because you find it amusing. I find internet drama amusing sometimes, and yet feel no need to jump in most of the time (and if I do jump in, it's not a matter of a lack of self control, but because I want to).

So yeah. I don't see where you're getting any of this from.

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Hudson

Former Staff

The_Diggler said:
I'm sure all of us have been a soldier in some dumbass comment war one time or another. <.< I know I have. and I'm sure some people would rather avoid that.

That's the main reason I don't really want to partake in petty arguments that have grown large. People largely don't listen to each other anymore, downvote without reasons other than to mock other people or to make one's valid argument look less appropriate and are just deliberately stirring up trouble or want to hate on others just because they enjoy doing so.

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Qmannn said:
I'm getting it from this:
This implies that this tag could be used to help prevent oneself from getting into arguments when that's something they can accomplish on their own if they had self control.

Maybe that isn't what The Diggler meant, but that's what I took from that part of their post. If I misinterpreted that, then I apologize.

So if they could accomplish that on their own AND there's a tag to help them avoid conflict I really don't see your issue here. It's kinda double the guarantee that someone won't join an argument and make it bigger.

Are you just offended that I would even suggest that you personally would even need something like that? Well If I have offended you I apologize but I really think some people would benefit from this tag.

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Qmannn said:[/section]
Please don't read too much into what I said. I was originally just making a remark about how using it for that purpose seemed pointless, along with two other points, one of which was under the assumption that you were suggesting potentially utilizing it just to find arguments to participate in and the other point being in support of it, making note of its potential application for settling conflicts.

Truth be told, I don't really care if the tag comes to be, I'm just trying to clarify what I meant at this point. If what I intended to say still isn't clear, I'll just accept that I suck at communication and call it a day.[/section]

I understand now. and yes It's entirely possible that someone would do that and more than likely WILL. But then again, what was stopping them before? If someone wants to be in an argument on the internet it really doesn't matter what tag they use, it's all to easy too start an argument or join one or whatever. I just want to make it a little easier for peaceful people to avoid them as well. Balance the scales.

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