Topic: webm = invalad_tag?

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So recently I tried to do a search consisting of animated -flash -webm so that I didn't end up with pages of "Flash" or "video" boxes making browsing more cluttered, yet all the webm files have had the tag removed.

Upon trying to add the webm file to a couple, I found that it registers as "invalad_tag".

Could I be notified of the reason for this?

Updated by NotMeNotYou

Nimmy made the alias because you can just type in "type:webm" to find them webm stuffs

Updated by anonymous

Or in your case, use type:gif to find only gifs, that saves you two other tags in your search.

Updated by anonymous

Wouldn't it make more sense to remove the alias to invalid_tag and alias it to animated instead? We did the same with gif, and it's the better way to do it, imo.

Updated by anonymous

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Peekaboo said:
Wouldn't it make more sense to remove the alias to invalid_tag and alias it to animated instead? We did the same with gif, and it's the better way to do it, imo.

So that's why static gifs keep getting tagged as animated? I've been wondering about that, never thought to check the tag itself. :/

It should be switched back to invalid_tag.

WebM isn't guaranteed to be animated either. Could be just still image with music, etc.

Updated by anonymous

NotMeNotYou said:
Or in your case, use type:gif to find only gifs, that saves you two other tags in your search.

No good, doing that still brings up webm files.

Updated by anonymous

https://e621.net/post/index/1/type:webm%20type:gif

The search is implicitly an "AND" between search terms, right? I can't think of any reason why this search should ever return a result other than empty set because no file is both a webm and a gif. Otherwise searching for "boy girl" would return any picture with either a boy or a girl as well as both a boy and a girl.

Updated by anonymous

Daneasaur said:
No good, doing that still brings up webm files.

Confirmed: type:webm type:gif

The wiki page for gif and animated leads me to believe that type:gif is built from a "group all non-flash animations here" batch, which might explain why webm would show up in type:gif searches but gif doesn't show up in type:webm searches. (this is just my guess)

It's obviously not a permanent solution, but you should be able to use type:gif -type:webm in the meantime. Edit: Nevermind, that has even weirder behavior. It's clunky but animated -flash -type:webm works (unless there's another file type I haven't thought of).

Updated by anonymous

Azazial said:
https://e621.net/post/index/1/type:webm%20type:gif

The search is implicitly an "AND" between search terms, right? I can't think of any reason why this search should ever return a result other than empty set because no file is both a webm and a gif. Otherwise searching for "boy girl" would return any picture with either a boy or a girl as well as both a boy and a girl.

Not sure about how it works technically-speaking, but the site is definitely treating webm as gif files.

Updated by anonymous

It looks like for whatever reason if there's more than one type: tag in the search, it only uses the last one, so searching for type:gif type:webm will just return webms. Searching for type:webm type:gif will only return gifs, but the page-counting query only returns one page (maybe a zero-result) so you only get the first page of gifs and no pagination.

Edit: yeah, meta-tags are treated as 'unique' in the code and any later meta-tag will overwrite any earlier one. For example, searching for score:0 score:1 will just search for score:1.

Edit 2: I'm not getting any webms when searching for type:gif, at least not on the first two pages, and there's definitely webms recent enough to show up on the first two pages.

Updated by anonymous

Daneasaur said:
No good, doing that still brings up webm files.

How exactly does your search look with the type:gif thing?
As tony says, there is probably another meta searchterm in your query ruining everything.

parasprite said:
Not sure about how it works technically-speaking, but the site is definitely treating webm as gif files.

Normal tag searches are inclusive which means only posts with TagA AND TagB AND TagC are shown, the search for type:webm AND type:gif should never return any results because a file can't have two file endings.
And as tony said, that it shows any results is a bug.

Updated by anonymous

Well how would one blacklist webm files?

And all I type into the search is gif and I get gif AND webm.

Updated by anonymous

Daneasaur said:
Well how would one blacklist webm files?

And all I type into the search is gif and I get gif AND webm.

  • type:webm
  • type:png animated
  • type:gif
  • flash

Updated by anonymous

Daneasaur said:
Well how would one blacklist webm files?

And all I type into the search is gif and I get gif AND webm.

For the blacklist thing, see what parasprite said and add type:swf for games.

As for gif, gif is aliased away to animated, most webm files are also animated (since the image changes, so to speak) which is why you find these lumped under this one tag.
But you should also see flash files and apng when you search for animated, basically everything that has an image that is animated, regardless of how the animation is done.

Updated by anonymous

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