Topic: Admins aren't doing their job

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So ive seen multiple times on this site admins telling people "If you don't like something then black list it" Which is fine, if you don't want to see something nasty like scat there is no reason to complain because you can block it but not when shit isn't tagged right on this site.

I don't want to see all this disgusting pedophile shit but half of it isn't tagged "young" so it shows up on the page. Its absolutely fucking disgusting and borderline illegal and I don't want it on my computer.

https://e621.net/post/show/842982/2013-black_and_white-black_eyes-claws-digital_medi

So if you don't want people writing comments tag your content right or don't complain about black listing.

INB4 "Just tag it your self" DERR I never thought of that! Then that would mean 1. Its not being tagged right in the first place and im seeing it anyway 2. I would have to go in and click on it further exposing myself to this sick shit

Updated by TonyCoon

The only solution would be something like this:
Unapproved posts are invisible to all users except moderators (and the uploader), and only posts with enough valid tags get approved.
Otherwise, they stay in the approval queue until the uploader has added enough tags.

Updated by anonymous

Munkelzahn said:
The only solution would be something like this:
Unapproved posts are invisible to all users except moderators (and the uploader), and only posts with enough valid tags get approved.
Otherwise, they stay in the approval queue until the uploader has added enough tags.

I honestly don't see the point of the approval system unless they apply the quoted post as part of it.

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FibS said:
I honestly don't see the point of the approval system unless they apply the quoted post as part of it.

The point is basic quality control, making sure things are relevant, and that no too obvious DNP posts get through.

And just to point this out, the linked post above had 25 valid tags on upload, that proposed solution would have done nothing.

whatthefuckerver said:
I don't want to see all this disgusting pedophile shit but half of it isn't tagged "young" so it shows up on the page. Its absolutely fucking disgusting and borderline illegal and I don't want it on my computer.

Here is a solution: Fix the tags yourself instead of whining or leave.
The tags are community driven for a reason.

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NotMeNotYou said:
The point is basic quality control, making sure things are relevant, and that no too obvious DNP posts get through.

Yeah and that's great except that they're still publicly visible instantly on submission, pretty much the highest-traffic time for the post.

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Hudson

Former Staff

After all, this is still e621.net. On this site, all sorts of weird things happen. It's a risk you carry with you. It's 18+ for a reason. You can't fully omit the possibility of young and cub images showing up. The site isn't perfect, nor is the tagging. Know however, that a lot of active users on e621 are improving it on a daily basis. The tags aforementioned are no exception.

Besides, if it troubles you, and the desired effect is less present than your disgust for those images, then maybe it's an idea not to visit e621 anymore, for your own best. I did the same with games that started to piss me off more than that they made me feel relaxed.

Updated by anonymous

If you want to avoid unapproved images to be visible just in case they aren't properly tagged, there's something you can still blacklist: status:pending.

Updated by anonymous

Furrin_Gok said:
If you want to avoid unapproved images to be visible just in case they aren't properly tagged, there's something you can still blacklist: status:pending.

Oh that's helpful, I didn't know that.

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Tuvalu said:
Even after so many people saw the thread, nobody fixed it.

There should definitely be more ephasis on tagging things with young/cub if your statement about half of it not being tagged, because it's just plain illegal in some countries.

All these arguments revolve around humans. Not anthropomorphic animals.
You have a problem with cub art, add this to your blacklist:

Cub
Young

By adding it in two lines instead of one it will block anything tagged either cub, or young.
If it isn't tagged correctly either tag it yourself, or ignore it, or do what furrin suggested and blacklist pending images.
If the user is consistently misstagging then report them for it like I do with problem taggers.

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Esme_Belles said:
All these arguments revolve around humans. Not anthropomorphic animals.
You have a problem with cub art, add this to your blacklist:

Cub
Young

By adding it in two lines instead of one it will block anything tagged either cub, or young.
If it isn't tagged correctly either tag it yourself, or ignore it.
If the user is consistently misstagging then report them for it like I do with problem taggers.

Do tilde's work in the blacklist? ~cub ~young rating:e would cover it in one line at 20 characters instead of two at 26.

Updated by anonymous

Than simply just don't click on the pic, just ignore it. Why is that hard? And actally it's pretty hard to tag pictures about young things because you can't filter it properly. Not like tagging for example animal genitalias with. anatomically_correct -animal_genitalia And if you can't stand it than leave. you will never find a better site than this.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Xesnogard said:
Than simply just don't click on the pic, just ignore it.

I've seen that argument repeated often, and it still makes no sense to me.
How are you supposed to know exactly what's in the image without looking at it? The thumbnails are tiny, there's often no way to tell anyone's age from those. You can only rely on the tags.

Updated by anonymous

I'm going to throw this in. If you see someone is missing a tag frequently (in this case young or cub), you can send them a polite PM informing them of that, and then they are likely to start improving their tagging in that regard, thus exposing you to fewer of those posts you don't want to see.

Obviously, this doesn't work for people who are uploading only a couple of things, or people who have only missed the tag a couple of times, or who upload a diverse set of work and rarely upload art relevant of the young or cub variety, but there are often people who upload a lot of similar themed content.

I've done this myself with a couple of uploaders, and it has always worked very well. If you see an uploader like that, try something like this:

Hello!

You've been uploading a lot of artwork recently, and it has been getting through my blacklist because it is missing the (young/cub) tag. I would really appreciate it if you could try to remember that tag in the future.

Thanks for your time!

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Genjar said:
I've seen that argument repeated often, and it still makes no sense to me.
How are you supposed to know exactly what's in the image without looking at it? The thumbnails are tiny, there's often no way to tell anyone's age from those. You can only rely on the tags.

i can bring up rating:e cub and i tell from just a quick glance which characters in the thumbnails are and aren't cubs. it isn't that hard to differentiate cubs from adults.

with a thumbnail like post #841625 it's plain to see which character an adult and whichs is a cub with no difficuly at all.

unless your going blind, that sounds to me like your trying to make something that easy sound harder to do than it really is. the content of a thumbnail, at the current size, can be seen plain as day with no difficulty at all. (ever seen the NDS screens? they're tiny compared to a big tv but is it overly hard to tell what's happening on them? no, not realy.)

if you have cub and young blacklisted then you won't see it. if it's got cub and isn't tagged such then either add the tag yourself or skip it and move along. those are simple, easy solutions. theres no need to just keep on whining because 1 or more very easily solutions aren't happening when you come across a pic you disapprove of like that.

what i don't get is why people continue to complain about problems like that when the solutions to said problem are so very easily done. it almost seems like such people are looking for things to nitpick or complain about.

well, that's my take on this matter anyway.

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Clawdragons said:
Hello!

You've been uploading a lot of artwork recently, and it has been getting through my blacklist because it is missing the (young/cub) tag. I would really appreciate it if you could try to remember that tag in the future.

Thanks for your time!

good idea. i do similar when fixing tags myself sometimes. just changing the content of the comment depending on what was changed.

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Genjar said:
I've seen that argument repeated often, and it still makes no sense to me.
How are you supposed to know exactly what's in the image without looking at it? The thumbnails are tiny, there's often no way to tell anyone's age from those. You can only rely on the tags.

Well i almost every time know what's on a pic by just looking at the thumbnail they are big enough i think, to see almost everything clearly.

Updated by anonymous

Ratte

Former Staff

If the uploaders are abiding by the 4-tag minimum and the tags are valid, there is not really anything we can do about it. Tags aren't added automatically and to assume that absolutely every tag relevant to an image will be added right on the first attempt is pretty silly.

Add it yourself and hit back in your browser. The reason you have been slapped for not doing so is because of your commenting behavior, which I see still has yet to improve if going by your OP.

Updated by anonymous

Admins aren't doing their job

Tagging and blacklisting isn't just an admin's job, it is everyone's job, including yours. Seeing how you only have 1 tag edit AND never fixed your own issue, I say you aren't doing your job. Don't blame us when the responsibility is also yours too.

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TheHuskyK9 said:
Tagging and blacklisting isn't just an admin's job, it is everyone's job, including yours. Seeing how you only have 1 tag edit AND never fixed your own issue, I say you aren't doing your job. Don't blame us when the responsibility is also yours too.

post #780786
You got schooled, son!

Updated by anonymous

Soon, AI's will do the tagging for us.
And the uploading.
They will even fap for us someday.

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Munkelzahn said:
They will even fap for us someday.

hell no, keep them cold "hands" away from me >:I

I'm not that lazy

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Hudson

Former Staff

Munkelzahn said:
Soon, AI's will do the tagging for us.
And the uploading.
They will even fap for us someday.

I fear that day... but I would not be surprised with the marching industrialization nowadays.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Xesnogard said:
Well i almost every time know what's on a pic by just looking at the thumbnail they are big enough i think, to see almost everything clearly.

I've done enough tag scripting to know that thumbnails aren't reliable for things such as age. Case in point: misleading_thumbnail.

Also, you're assuming that everyone who browses the site has a huge-ass monitor. Which clearly isn't the case. There's plenty of users who browse with smartphones, etc.

Updated by anonymous

>Here is a solution: Fix the tags yourself instead of whining or leave.
The tags are community driven for a reason.

>"INB4 "Just tag it your self" DERR I never thought of that! Then that would mean 1. Its not being tagged right in the first place and im seeing it anyway 2. I would have to go in and click on it further exposing myself to this sick shit"

Read the full thread before commenting.

BTW When I didn't tag something right after uploading I had noting but people whining and bitching at me including admins but when I use the excuse "tag it yourself" I get bitched at oh but when an admin says the same thing to me all of a sudden its A-ok.

How about you get your administration to stop being hypocritical

Updated by anonymous

My favorite is when people see the thumbnail and downvote the picture after knowing full well what it is and what the tags are, are people just that hellbent on not using the blacklist or what? Yes, people who hate certain things should tag on their own and fix missing tags, but there are people who flat out ignore them and downvote out of spite.

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Hudson

Former Staff

whatthefuckerver said:
BTW When I didn't tag something right after uploading I had noting but people whining and bitching at me including admins but when I use the excuse "tag it yourself" I get bitched at oh but when an admin says the same thing to me all of a sudden its A-ok.

That's strange, seen the fact that you uploaded only one image ever, several months ago. On that image, you didn't tag anything at all, so no wonder people addressed you on the minimum-of-4-tags policy...
Besides, they only pointed out the fact that it lacked tags, they were not at all "bitching and whining."

How about you get your administration to stop being hypocritical

There's nothing even remotely hypocritical about their ruling.
I have the faint feeling you are here solely to cause unrest.

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Xesnogard said:
Than simply just don't click on the pic, just ignore it. Why is that hard? And actally it's pretty hard to tag pictures about young things because you can't filter it properly. Not like tagging for example animal genitalias with. anatomically_correct -animal_genitalia And if you can't stand it than leave. you will never find a better site than this.

Do some of you people even read the full thread?
1. I don't want to see that sick disgusting and illegal child porn people post on here. "Don't click on it" Gee I never would have thought of that! Thanks! Oh wait I can still see it from the thumbnail on the front page
2. The admins always ask to black list stuff instead of bitching about it. I have it black listed yet its still visible
3. Why the hell is it my job to tag other peoples images and not the uploader? Oh hey its not because when I uploaded something I got bitched at for not tagging the image right.
4. Even if I were to tag the image myself YOU JUST SAID "just don't click on the pic, just ignore it". SO your solution makes zero sense

Updated by anonymous

HotUnderTheCollar said:
That's strange, seen the fact that you uploaded only one image ever, several months ago. On that image, you didn't tag anything at all, so no wonder people addressed you on the minimum-of-4-tags policy...
Besides, they only pointed out the fact that it lacked tags, they were not at all "bitching and whining."

There's nothing even remotely hypocritical about their ruling.
I have the faint feeling you are here solely to cause unrest.

>Tag an image yourself its up to you to tag it

>This is on my image upload "Uhh, I put this up for myself and couldn't think of any tages other then wolf.

If you bugs you so much you tag it."

"It doesn't matter if you uploaded it for yourself, the rules specify a minimum of four tags on a post." Then I got a negative report on my account

"There's nothing even remotely hypocritical about their ruling. " Yeah admins getting mad at one person for breaking a rule then do noting to a person doing the same thing is totally fair

"I have the faint feeling you are here solely to cause unrest."
So when someone has a different opinion then you or says something you don't like they are just here to troll? WOW
I think you're just here to suck up to the admins so you can get a privilege account

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Genjar said:
I've done enough tag scripting to know that thumbnails aren't reliable for things such as age. Case in point: misleading_thumbnail.

Also, you're assuming that everyone who browses the site has a huge-ass monitor. Which clearly isn't the case. There's plenty of users who browse with smartphones, etc.

Automatically zoomed in thumbnails used to work pretty well (bookmarklet: javascript:(function(){%20function%20zoomImage(image,%20amt)%20{%20if(image.initialHeight%20==%20null)%20{%20/*%20avoid%20accumulating%20integer-rounding%20error%20*/%20image.initialHeight=image.height;%20image.initialWidth=image.width;%20image.scalingFactor=1;%20}%20image.scalingFactor*=amt;%20image.width=image.scalingFactor*image.initialWidth;%20image.height=image.scalingFactor*image.initialHeight;%20}%20var%20i,L=document.images.length;%20for%20(i=0;i<L;++i)%20zoomImage(document.images[i],%202);%20if%20(!L)%20alert(%22This%20page%20contains%20no%20images.%22);%20})();).
But I see that now some change to the CSS has been made that results in the zoomed images overlapping.

whatthefuckerver said:
>Here is a solution: Fix the tags yourself instead of whining or leave.
The tags are community driven for a reason.

These two statements directly contradict. Either you are part of the community and it's partly your responsibility (because as Ratte says, it's unreasonable to expect people to tag their stuff perfectly on initial upload), or you aren't and don't care because you aren't browsing e621 to begin with.

The hypocrisy here is yours.

Updated by anonymous

Holy fuck are you're a negative person or what? :|

I would suggest doing what was suggested way above, simply blacklist unapproved images. At that point if uploader didn't include necessary tags, then they should be added by someone before it gets approved.

Furrin_Gok said:
If you want to avoid unapproved images to be visible just in case they aren't properly tagged, there's something you can still blacklist: status:pending.

Because it's always possible there are someone who simply forgot (even I have uploaded animations and tagged all the other stuff but forgot the animated tag) or tries to go where the fence is lowest by not adding tags necessary for blacklisting to work. And as images are visible instantly after the upload there's not much that admins can do to them other than only show approved posts - which you can already do yourself.

Updated by anonymous

The hypocrisy here is yours.

AHAHAHAHA All the people trying to suck up to the admins for a privileged account are hilarious.

First of all nice job cropping my post so its out of context very nice.

I have an admin telling to to both tag images myself but then at the same time ignore the posts. LMAO what even you can't even argue that its not hypocrisy or atleast misguided. It should be up to the UP LOADER to tag young. It shouldn't be hard to put in major tags like gay, or BDSM. You do realize this all applies to other people right? Im sure users that don't like gay content will black list the gay tag so they can enjoy content they want to see and don't appreciate it when it pops up

" or you aren't and don't care because you aren't browsing e621 to begin with." What is that suppose to mean? Are you trying to imply that I don't use this site and im just trying to troll or something? Is that all you children resort to? "OH HE HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION THEN ME SO ME MUST BE TROLLING!!!"

Too bad I have over 2 years worth of favorites to show I actually use this site so nice try

Updated by anonymous

The rule states four tags or more, the image has four tags then it is no longer breaking the rules. Which you could know if you would actually read the rules.

Also, I said to tag it yourself or ignore it. The small word made out of the two letters "O" and "R" is important in that sentence.
And again, it's not illegal for us, if it's illegal for you get the hell off of this server, we don't have to fit our content to the laws that govern your place of residence.

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NotMeNotYou said:
The rule states four tags or more, the image has four tags then it is no longer breaking the rules. Which you could know if you would actually read the rules.

Also, I said to tag it yourself or ignore it. The small word made out of the two letters "O" and "R" is important in that sentence.
And again, it's not illegal for us, if it's illegal for you get the hell off of this server, we don't have to fit our content to the laws that govern your place of residence.

Such a level headed and reasonable administration I see. I think you should look at your own profile image for some advice because you're being overly rude especially for someone whos suppose to representing a website

I mean you get mad at people when they see content they don't like then go into the comments and write their opinions on said content then you tell them to black list it.

Then when its black listed and the content pops up anyway you get mad at them for pointing out a flaw in the black list system.

Amazing.

Fine next time I upload an image don't yell at me for tagging it wrong. All I have to do is post 4 tags with minimal relevance according to you and the rest is not my problem its someone elses.

Updated by anonymous

Whatthefuckerver, what is it you even want here? What are you trying to accomplish?

I, and others, have given you several solutions for dealing with this issue you're having, and yet you've completely ignored those solutions in favor of being rude to people and fighting about things which are not the main point.

Yu refuse to even address any solutions anyone has tried to give you, and refuse to give any solutions of your own as to how the problem could be fixed..

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whatthefuckerver said:
Do some of you people even read the full thread?
1. I don't want to see that sick disgusting and illegal child porn people post on here. "Don't click on it" Gee I never would have thought of that! Thanks! Oh wait I can still see it from the thumbnail on the front page
2. The admins always ask to black list stuff instead of bitching about it. I have it black listed yet its still visible
3. Why the hell is it my job to tag other peoples images and not the uploader? Oh hey its not because when I uploaded something I got bitched at for not tagging the image right.
4. Even if I were to tag the image myself YOU JUST SAID "just don't click on the pic, just ignore it". SO your solution makes zero sense

Let's see,
1. It's not illegal "child porn". They are fucking hyper intelligent animals. Child porn refers to humans. HUMANS! If it was "child porn" the site wouldn't be around...would have been nuked a fucking long time ago. The first site owner got whacked with child porn allegations, but the site didn't die even after law enforcement checked them. Know why? Animals, not humans. Also, drawn, not real. Ignore it, if your delicate sensibilities can't handle it gtfo. It's pretty damn simple.

2. People forget to tag, people miss adding tags, people are lazy, don't tag enough which gets them into trouble, people sometimes remove the tag either because it doesn't match the TWYS rule or don't know any better when the tag is valid. Sometimes they just do it for the check of it which gets them slapped.

3. The site is community run, if your not going to pitch in and help then don't go shooting your mouth off. The posts that are missing tags likely are related to #2 people are people, shit happens. The uploader is supposed to tag it correctly but again, their human they can make mistakes or forget things. If your your that sensitive that you can't even fix it (while following the sites tagging guidelines) then this really is not the place for you.

4. Ignoring means you don't click on it whatsoever, means you don't have to tag...but also means you don't start frothing at the mouth in the comments either.

From pretty much all the posts you've made I can tell you are only here to stir the drama pot and bmc. No site is perfect and if your looking for perfection go make your own site.

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whatthefuckerver said:
AHAHAHAHA All the people trying to suck up to the admins for a privileged account are hilarious.

The hypocrisy here is yours, and you are continuing to compound it.

It's not at all subtle. In the latest example, YOU are telling NMNY to 'stop taking the internet so seriously', all while every post you have made in this thread (ON THE INTERNET, gasp) is an angry rant about what you have found ON THE INTERNET. It would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

The example before that was stating that tagging is a community thing, while simultaneously rejecting that you are part of that community and therefore also have a responsibility to tag. It's no different. You're just failing to make these basic logical connections, and it's either because you actually are this much of an emotional mess, or you're trolling.

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Clawdragons said:
Whatthefuckerver, what is it you even want here? What are you trying to accomplish?

I, and others, have given you several solutions for dealing with this issue you're having, and yet you've completely ignored those solutions in favor of being rude to people and fighting about things which are not the main point.

Yu refuse to even address any solutions anyone has tried to give you, and refuse to give any solutions of your own as to how the problem could be fixed..

Yeah, he's arguing that he's serious about this and not a troll, but really just seems to be arguing the points he can and ignore the ones he can't.

Whatthefuckever, I've carefully read every post here, and it is valid that people should tag their stuff, but it's also valid that instead of complaining, you should also fix some tags.
Now, if you fix the tags and then call them out, that's okay. It's simply that only complaining means you're doing the same thing they are: not tagging the relevant tags.

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whatthefuckerver said:
Do some of you people even read the full thread?
1. I don't want to see that sick disgusting and illegal child porn people post on here. "Don't click on it" Gee I never would have thought of that! Thanks! Oh wait I can still see it from the thumbnail on the front page
2. The admins always ask to black list stuff instead of bitching about it. I have it black listed yet its still visible
3. Why the hell is it my job to tag other peoples images and not the uploader? Oh hey its not because when I uploaded something I got bitched at for not tagging the image right.
4. Even if I were to tag the image myself YOU JUST SAID "just don't click on the pic, just ignore it". SO your solution makes zero sense

*sigh* when are people going to learn how to differentiate fiction from reality?

1. if it is a drawn pic of humans and/or cubs (regardless of whether or not the cubs in question are anthro) then it is fiction. a thing of fantasy. and as such it is not illegal (well...except maybe in places like russia >.> but then, what doesn't russia blacklist in regards to porn?)

illegal child porn is photographs of irl children (minors) in sexual situations. this is truly easy to understand.

if cub art was considered to be illegal child porn then do you really think inkbunny would have lasted as long as it has?

2. fix the tags yourself then.

3. quit being lazy and expecting others to do everything for you.

4. that is the alternative to 2 and 3. good ol' "don't like it, don't look at it".

but of course, theres always those who refuse any advice anyone bothers to give them and expects they're every little desire to be met with absolutely no effort put forth on they're own part...right? sounds rather entitled, no?

face it, the world doesn't revolve around you no matter how much you expect or demand it to. either suck it up, take some responsibility yourself and fix the problems yourself when you can, and/or blacklist what you dislike, or deal with it and don't whine and complain when you don't get your way.

the world is a harsh, uncaring place, and that is something that shall never change.

oh and regarding your 1 single upload, ignoring rules is a good way to get neg ratings and potentially banned.

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treos said:
*sigh* when are people going to learn how to differentiate fiction from reality?

1. if it is a drawn pic of humans and/or cubs (regardless of whether or not the cubs in question are anthro) then it is fiction. a thing of fantasy. and as such it is not illegal (well...except maybe in places like russia >.> but then, what doesn't russia blacklist in regards to porn?)

I didn't know Australia was like Russia. TIL.

(Australian law considers drawn images to fall in the same category as photographs, AFAIK)

As I understand it, there is also a degree of judgement involved in eg. the US, for drawings that are 'sufficiently realistic' as to have certain implications.

(drawn cubs as opposed to humans are a slightly different matter of course.. I'd be surprised if there was any legal precedent there.)

EDIT: Received "unexpected error: [empty]" while trying to post this. Dunno what that means, but it went away when I retried.

Updated by anonymous

savageorange said:
I didn't know Australia was like Russia. TIL.

(Australian law considers drawn images to fall in the same category as photographs, AFAIK)

As I understand it, there is also a degree of judgement involved in eg. the US, for drawings that are 'sufficiently realistic' as to have certain implications.

(drawn cubs as opposed to humans are a slightly different matter of course.. I'd be surprised if there was any legal precedent there.)

iirc russia considers it to be underage if a cub/shota/loli pic has so much as over sized anime eyes (feel free to correct me on that if i'm wrong though). illegal i meant.

and iirc here in the US it depends from state to state on what is considered to be obscene. though i think drawn pics are pretty much fine in general for the most part (hey, e621 is based here in the US so what does that say?). just don't get caught with an actual photographs of such content or you will live to regret it. i think japan caught up with that at some point too so they're not too strict about it either (theres still the rampant porn censoring of course but that can't be solved so easily or quickly).

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whatthefuckerver said:
AHAHAHAHA All the people trying to suck up to the admins for a privileged account are hilarious.

I hope you do realize that we only give upgraded accounts to people who actually help the site. Most of our active users already know that "sucking up" to us but not doing anything is going to get them nowhere.

First of all nice job cropping my post so its out of context very nice.

First of all, starting a response with "AHAHAHAHA" tends to lose any credibility you had and makes it harder to take you seriously.

I have an admin telling to to both tag images myself but then at the same time ignore the posts. LMAO what even you can't even argue that its not hypocrisy or atleast misguided.

No, we're giving you options on what you should do.

It should be up to the UP LOADER to tag young.

If that's the case, why are you blaming us by saying "Admins aren't doing their job"?

It shouldn't be hard to put in major tags like gay, or BDSM. You do realize this all applies to other people right? Im sure users that don't like gay content will black list the gay tag so they can enjoy content they want to see and don't appreciate it when it pops up

If it isn't hard then why are you making such a big deal about this when you could've easily fixed this yourself?

" or you aren't and don't care because you aren't browsing e621 to begin with." What is that suppose to mean? Are you trying to imply that I don't use this site and im just trying to troll or something? Is that all you children resort to? "OH HE HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION THEN ME SO ME MUST BE TROLLING!!!"

Too bad I have over 2 years worth of favorites to show I actually use this site so nice try

No, your behavior and the way you are conducting yourself in this thread is making you look like a troll. You're shooting yourself in the foot here.

Updated by anonymous

gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8 dont h8 just apprici8

>implying people suck up to nmny or husky for priv accounts

top kek. I had a good laugh. 10/10 troll.

Updated by anonymous

Patchi said:
>implying people suck up to nmny or husky for priv accounts

Good one, Patchi.

*laughs before sulks in corner*

Updated by anonymous

*Sigh* A softer approach would've been the right and respectful option...but this is the internet. A small problem made big for no reason...another to my blacklist.

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TheHuskyK9 said:
I hope you do realize that we only give upgraded accounts to people who actually help the site. Most of our active users already know that "sucking up" to us but not doing anything is going to get them nowhere.

I couldn't possibly have said it better myself, you fantastic man whom I love.

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So is this thread just going to turn into regular users parroting the same points the admins already made over and over again?

You're not going to get a privilege account by being a parrot

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whatthefuckerver said:
You're not going to get a privilege account by being a parrot

i don't see anyone here trying to get privileged status by sucking up to or parroting anyone. your the only one in this thread who keeps implying that.

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TheHuskyK9 said:
I hope you do realize that we only give upgraded accounts to people who actually help the site. Most of our active users already know that "sucking up" to us but not doing anything is going to get them nowhere.

whatthefuckerver said:
So is this thread just going to turn into regular users parroting the same points the admins already made over and over again?

You're not going to get a privilege account by being a parrot

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"If it isn't hard then why are you making such a big deal about this when you could've easily fixed this yourself?"

Its like im talking to a wall and you didn't even read my posts.

>Implying when I see this sick pedophile crap I want to click on the image and expose myself to it even further and see a bigger version of it and have it be in my internet history

>Implying me "fixing" the tag myself changes the fact that I saw it in the first place

>Implying that its up to me to tag the post and not the uploader

>Implying the uploader is not at fault for mistagging stuff

>Implying me tagging it some how stops the other people mistagging their images in the future

>Implying that your "solutions" helps me at all seeing how I still have to look at it

>Implying you can't do your job as an admin and kindly ask the uploader to tag their stuff right like you did the same thing to me

Also its funny how you continue to use ad-hom attacks like calling me a troll when you can clearly see ive been using this site for over 2 years now. Just because I have a different opinion dose not mean im trolling you. Im even going out of my way to not name call like some of you here are doing to me

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whatthefuckerver said:
So is this thread just going to turn into regular users parroting the same points the admins already made over and over again?

You're not going to get a privilege account by being a parrot

I mean, there's nothing more to say to you. We've given you every option possible yet you still refuse to do anything about it and continue to complain. I think it's just best you leave at this rate. Obviously e621 is not for you.

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Pyke said:
I mean, there's nothing more to say to you. We've given you every option possible yet

"We"

No the admins are the only people posting valid reposes while you
treos savageorange and Esme Belles do noting to add to the conversation parrot what they are already saying and acting rude.

Let the admins speak you're all just taking up space.

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You honestly might as well close this thread.

The admins don't seem to be getting my point that if I have to go in and tag it myself then im going beyond the thumb nail and seeing the full version myself (even after you also told me to ignore it you're also telling me to click on it, WAT)when it should be the uploaders job JUST LIKE IT SAYS IN YOUR RULES

And the other normal users are sitting in here trying to get some browny points hoping they get a privileged account out of copying and pasting.

Pretty much no one is open to discussion.

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whatthefuckerver said:
You honestly might as well close this thread.

The admins don't seem to be getting my point that if I have to go in and tag it myself then im going beyond the thumb nail and seeing the full version myself (even after you also told me to ignore it you're also telling me to click on it, WAT)when it should be the uploaders job JUST LIKE IT SAYS IN YOUR RULES

And the other normal users are sitting in here trying to get some browny points hoping they get a privileged account out of copying and pasting.

Pretty much no one is open to discussion.

I don't think you understand what "Nothing more to say to you" means.

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Pyke said:
I don't think you understand what "Nothing more to say to you" means.

Oh my god can you just stop posting? You contribute noting of substance to this thread

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whatthefuckerver said:
Such a level headed and reasonable administration I see. I think you should look at your own profile image for some advice because you're being overly rude especially for someone whos suppose to representing a website

You get treated with the exactly the amount of respect you earned yourself. Why would I treat you better when all you do is harass others in the comments, harass another admin, and finally complain in public that you're expected to do your part as part of this community.
The expectation, to every member, is to either fix the tags if you encounter wrong ones, or shut the hell up if you're too busy being offended at seeing something you dislike.
This page isn't for you if you disagree with that.

whatthefuckerver said:
Fine next time I upload an image don't yell at me for tagging it wrong. All I have to do is post 4 tags with minimal relevance according to you and the rest is not my problem its someone elses.

So you are capable of comprehending basic sentences, color me impressed.
If you could now manage to understand why people are annoyed with you for trying to make other members tag things for you, while you insist you shouldn't have to do anything as a member yourself, we'd actually be able to make some headway here.

Again, tags past the basic minimum are a community effort, you are part of the community so it's partly your responsibility. If you can't handle this incredible amount of responsibility placed upon your shoulders without insulting people in the comments, while not solving anything yourself, then you simply shouldn't be here.

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whatthefuckerver said:
You honestly might as well close this thread.

Pretty much no one is open to discussion.

Nope, you started it, we're having a discussion right now and as you can see, everyone is putting in their input.

when it should be the uploaders job JUST LIKE IT SAYS IN YOUR RULES

https://e621.net/wiki/show?title=e621%3Arules
Show me.

And the other normal users are sitting in here trying to get some browny points hoping they get a privileged account out of copying and pasting.

Already went over this in the previous post.

whatthefuckerver said:
Its like im talking to a wall and you didn't even read my posts.

OH THE IRONY

>Implying when I see this sick pedophile crap I want to click on the image and expose myself to it even further and see a bigger version of it and have it be in my internet history

>Implying me "fixing" the tag myself changes the fact that I saw it in the first place

>Implying that its up to me to tag the post and not the uploader

>Implying the uploader is not at fault for mistagging stuff

>Implying me tagging it some how stops the other people mistagging their images in the future

>Implying that your "solutions" helps me at all seeing how I still have to look at it

>Implying you can't do your job as an admin and kindly ask the uploader to tag their stuff right like you did the same thing to me

Also its funny how you continue to use ad-hom attacks like calling me a troll when you can clearly see ive been using this site for over 2 years now. Just because I have a different opinion dose not mean im trolling you. Im even going out of my way to not name call like some of you here are doing to me

>Are you that scared of a drawing?

>It is. That's why everyone, including you, can edit tags.

>Gee whiz he missed one tag. Alert the press

>This actually could've all been avoided if you just added that one tag and moved on with your day.

>Again, are you that scared of a drawing?

>Actually, I don't have to my "job". This isn't even a job, I'm a volunteer. I get paid $0.00/hr. I'm not forced to do anything really. Also, it's a waste of time to ask the uploader to add one tag when you can do it yourself if you have such a big problem about it.

It's really funny how you think being on here for "using the site for over 2 years" automatically disqualifies you as a troll. I've banned plenty of dudes that were on here longer than you for trolling. Heck, I've been on here longer than you. Longevity doesn't matter.

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whatthefuckerver said:
Pretty much no one is open to discussion.

Or rather, they are not open to your self-defeating arguments, pretentions to having the moral high ground, entitled attitude, disproportionate emotional reactions, and wild strawmanning. Gee, I wonder why someone who has repeatedly demonstrated those characteristics would be treated like someone who you should not take seriously in a discussion.

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> So you are capable of comprehending basic sentences, color me impressed.

Im pretty sure if I talked to you with even half of that kind of attitude id be banned right on the spot. Nice to know we have mature admins running this site

>If you could now manage to understand why people are annoyed with you for trying to make other members tag things for you

HAHA oh no its not just for me. Like I said before you people yell at me for not tagging shit right but when I ask you enforce your own rules on these people all of a sudden its a problem

>you are part of the community

Ew no, im not this is a porn site not a community. Im not an uploader or an admin im not going to go around doing chores for you people. Im here for porn. Notice how this is my first forum post? Or that I don't have an avatar? Because I have zero interest in being a part of a furry porn community. I would gladly share some uploads but thats it. I only have an account on here to favorite stuff. Even then you and everyone else on here are attacking me right now and being absolutely rude. Why would I want to help an un welcoming group of people

>If you can't handle this incredible amount of responsibility

Again you act as if im too lazy to tag it. If I don't even want to look at that shit from the thumb nail then what makes you think I would like to click on it so I can tag it? Also how the hell dose that help if Im the one who has to tag it then im exposing myself the content when you could just tell the uploader to tag it himself before hand to avoid the entire thing.

If you don't want to punish the uploader for mis tagging stuff which is your own rule then fine but don't expect me to fix it for you then if you're not even going to talk to me without an attitude

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TheHuskyK9 said:
Nope, you started it, we're having a discussion right now and as you can see, everyone is putting in their input.

https://e621.net/wiki/show?title=e621%3Arules
Show me.

Already went over this in the previous post.

OH THE IRONY

>Are you that scared of a drawing?

>It is. That's why everyone, including you, can edit tags.

>Gee whiz he missed one tag. Alert the press

>This actually could've all been avoided if you just added that one tag and moved on with your day.

>Again, are you that scared of a drawing?

>Actually, I don't have to my "job". This isn't even a job, I'm a volunteer. I get paid $0.00/hr. I'm not forced to do anything really. Also, it's a waste of time to ask the uploader to add one tag when you can do it yourself if you have such a big problem about it.

It's really funny how you think being on here for "using the site for over 2 years" automatically disqualifies you as a troll. I've banned plenty of dudes that were on here longer than you for trolling. Heck, I've been on here longer than you. Longevity doesn't matter.

Having a different opinion or disagreeing with someone dose not make them a troll. If you want a safe space then tell me and ill respect that but until then if my opinion hurt your feelings well you can put up actual arguments instead of just going "OH MER GAWD YOU'RE A TROLL!!!"

And if you count me being "rude" Then you're also a troll you're being way more rude and you're an admin.

And no Im not scared of a drawing have you even thought to yourself that normal people find that kind of thing utterly disgusting? Im not telling anyone they can't like that kind of porn im just saying get it the fuck away from me and quit shoving it in my face. The depiction of children being sexualized is maybe the most disgusting and immoral things on earth and normal people don't like looking at it even for a moment. Maybe when you have a child in your life you might understand.

If it were up to me that content would be banned.

Excuse fucking me for trying to do something about it more productive and exposing a flaw in your tagging system instead of writing comments about it on the pages.

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NotMeNotYou said:
So you are capable of comprehending basic sentences, color me impressed.

and yet, the ability to click respond and quote properly has been lost. now it's merely ">text here" with little indication as to who is being quoted.

>forgot how the quote function works have we?

whatthefuckerver said:
And no Im not scared of a drawing have you even thought to yourself that normal people find that kind of thing utterly disgusting?

oh goody, i finally get to use this type of question. care to define "normal"?

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savageorange said:
Or rather, they are not open to your self-defeating arguments, pretentions to having the moral high ground, entitled attitude, disproportionate emotional reactions, and wild strawmanning. Gee, I wonder why someone who has repeatedly demonstrated those characteristics would be treated like someone who you should not take seriously in a discussion.

Im not sure if you noticed but I haven't been reading your comments after the first one or responding to you. Thats because you're contributing noting to the conversation other then hovering around and parroting everything the admins are saying trying to start more drama then there already is in here.

Please get out and stop trying to start shit. I don't not respect or want your opinion.

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Qmannn said:
Just what are you hoping to accomplish at this point? What do you feel will change? If you sincerely believe that nobody will consider what you have to say and that everyone is bullying you, what do you have to gain, especially when no new points have been introduced? The conversation is looping and is devolving into a critique of character.

What exactly dose this post add to the conversation?

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whatthefuckerver said:
HAHA oh no its not just for me. Like I said before you people yell at me for not tagging shit right but when I ask you enforce your own rules on these people all of a sudden its a problem

If you're referring to the one image you uploaded that had one tag (well...no tags really since rating is pretty much automatic)...that broke the rule of minimum 4 tags. Actual rule-breaking, not an imagined one.

whatthefuckerver said:
Ew no, im not this is a porn site not a community. Im not an uploader or an admin im not going to go around doing chores for you people. Im here for porn. Notice how this is my first forum post? Or that I don't have an avatar? Because I have zero interest in being a part of a furry porn community. I would gladly share some uploads but thats it. I only have an account on here to favorite stuff. Even then you and everyone else on here are attacking me right now and being absolutely rude. Why would I want to help an un welcoming group of people

You have an account. That makes you a de-facto member of the community. Arguing the point doesn't change that. You can be a non-contributing member, but you're still a member.

whatthefuckerver said:
Again you act as if im too lazy to tag it. If I don't even want to look at that shit from the thumb nail then what makes you think I would like to click on it so I can tag it? Also how the hell dose that help if Im the one who has to tag it then im exposing myself the content when you could just tell the uploader to tag it himself before hand to avoid the entire thing.

The point being made is that if you have already clicked on it, and know the tag is missing, you should add it. It will keep others from having the same problem you did of it making it through blacklist, and it will keep you from accidentally encountering it again.

whatthefuckerver said:
If you don't want to punish the uploader for mis tagging stuff which is your own rule then fine but don't expect me to fix it for you then if you're not even going to talk to me without an attitude

Not putting every single applicable tag isn't mistagging...potentially incomplete tagging, but that isn't against the rules.

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Wodahseht said:
If you're referring to the one image you uploaded that had one tag...that broke the rule of minimum 4 tags. Actual rule-breaking, not an imagined one.

You have an account. That makes you a de-facto member of the community. Arguing the point doesn't change that. You can be a non-contributing member, but you're still a member.

The point being made is that if you have already clicked on it, and know the tag is missing, you should add it. It will keep others from having the same problem you did of it making it through blacklist, and it will keep you from accidentally encountering it again.

Not putting every single applicable tag isn't mistagging...potentially incomplete tagging, but that isn't against the rules.

"The point being made is that if you have already clicked on it, and know the tag is missing"

-__- No I didn't, Clearly if Im staring at a nude child then a tag must be missing.

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Im going to stop post, not just in here but everywhere on this site. The admins are too busy being rude and unhelpful. They refuse to even come to the middle and were both just yelling our points at each other with no one budging.

No one even wants to meet me half way or even try to understand where im coming from. Clearly im not going to change anyones mind with the admins acting rude with all of the normal users acting as lap dogs for them parroting their points without debate.

Seriously calling me a troll just to try to discredit my argument that's where I should have known everyone in this thread wasn't open to discussion.

But hey atleast you guys didn't pretend as if I was harassing people and just straight up ban me or lock the thread after one post so atleast you guys are honest unlike other admins.

atleast It tried

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whatthefuckerver said:
Im going to stop post, not just in here but everywhere on this site. The admins are too busy being rude and unhelpful. They refuse to even come to the middle and were both just yelling our points at each other with no one budging.

No one even wants to meet me half way or even try to understand where im coming from. Clearly im not going to change anyones mind with the admins acting rude with all of the normal users acting as lap dogs for them parroting their points without debate.

Seriously calling me a troll just to try to discredit my argument that's where I should have known everyone in this thread wasn't open to discussion.

But hey atleast you guys didn't pretend as if I was harassing people and just straight up ban me or lock the thread after one post so atleast you guys are honest unlike other admins.

atleast It tried

Cya. Don't come back.

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Pyke said:
Cya. Don't come back.

Why do you keep coming back as if anyone even cared about your opinion in the first place?

No matter how much you act like a parrot the admins wont respect you or give you a privilege account kid.

Stop replying

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