Aliasing paint_character → paint_(character)
Link to alias

Reason:

Incorrect format

EDIT: The tag alias paint_character -> paint_(character) (forum #223450) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

A case of incorrect format with few posts like that one (currently 18) can be fixed manualy.

O16 said:
can be fixed manualy.

done.

Shouldn't it be paint_(p8nt)?

Furrin_Gok said:
Shouldn't it be paint_(p8nt)?

there is not currently any other characters named as paint so there is no need to specify that this character belongs to p8nt

Mutisija said:
there is not currently any other characters named as paint so there is no need to specify that this character belongs to p8nt

"Not currently"
An absolutely horrible reason.
We should never use _(character) unless it's a big, copyrighted name, like Sonic_the_hedgehog or Shantae, just incase it does happen. We should always strive to tag it by either its full name (Samus_Aran), or by its owner (banjo_(banjo-kazooie))

Mutisija said:
there is not currently any other characters named as paint so there is no need to specify that this character belongs to p8nt

Yep.
Uniform *_(character) is preferred, because everything else tends to result in too many typos and duplicates.

It's also least likely to cause problems if the new tag categories (such as commissioner) are added.

Furrin_Gok said:
"Not currently"
An absolutely horrible reason.
We should never use _(character) unless it's a big, copyrighted name, like Sonic_the_hedgehog or Shantae, just incase it does happen. We should always strive to tag it by either its full name (Samus_Aran), or by its owner (banjo_(banjo-kazooie))

no, its absolutely good reason. the _(owner) is used only when there is multiple characters with same name and specifying who owns the character is necessary. the _(character) is used when there is only one character with the name

Mutisija said:
there is not currently any other characters named as paint so there is no need to specify that this character belongs to p8nt

Ms. Paint from Homestuck.

kamimatsu said:
Ms. Paint from Homestuck.

Citation.

Siral_Exan said:
Citation.

Thanks. I forgot to include that.

kamimatsu said:
Ms. Paint from Homestuck.

Yep. While she has a title before her name, people might exclude it in tagging.

Plus one to the original alias, since there's no good arguments against it.
Anyone who knows the aforementioned character knows that it's a pun on MS Paint. So they wouldn't actually drop the first part.

Genjar said:
Plus one to the original alias, since there's no good arguments against it.
Anyone who knows the aforementioned character knows that it's a pun on MS Paint. So they wouldn't actually drop the first part.

Except, that's not true. A person can see a picture of some strange, foreign creature, and see "Oh, she's "Miss Paint"? I'll just tag her as "paint.""

Furrin_Gok said:
Except, that's not true. A person can see a picture of some strange, foreign creature, and see "Oh, she's "Miss Paint"? I'll just tag her as "paint.""

Except that hasn't happened so far, and it's becoming increasingly unlikely to happen. Because we only have three posts of her so far, she's usually drawn irrelevant to the site, and the comic has ended which means that fan art is becoming increasingly rarer. And she's unlikely to be tagged as paint_character, so it doesn't affect this alias.

In other words, I don't see how that argument is relevant. Nobody suggested aliasing paint to paint_(character).

Genjar said:
Except that hasn't happened so far, and it's becoming increasingly unlikely to happen. Because we only have three posts of her so far, she's usually drawn irrelevant to the site, and the comic has ended which means that fan art is becoming increasingly rarer. And she's unlikely to be tagged as paint_character, so it doesn't affect this alias.

In other words, I don't see how that argument is relevant. Nobody suggested aliasing paint to paint_(character).

How is it a bad idea to tag the character's owner, hmm?

Furrin_Gok said:
How is it a bad idea to tag the character's owner, hmm?

Like I said, there was some talk of adding new categories. Such as Commissioner or Character owner. To stop users from tagging commissions as copyrights.

And then those *_(<owner>) tags become a massive headache, because we need to split and disambiguate them.

Genjar said:
Like I said, there was some talk of adding new categories. Such as Commissioner or Character owner. To stop users from tagging commissions as copyrights.

And then those *_(<owner>) tags become a massive headache, because we need to split and disambiguate them.

You say "Headache" and I read "I want to be lazy and cause tagging issues in the future."
Paint is by no means an uncommon name. In fact, in just a quick little search, I immediately found another character by the same name:
post #1139760

Furrin_Gok said:
You say "Headache" and I read "I want to be lazy and cause tagging issues in the future."
Paint is by no means an uncommon name. In fact, in just a quick little search, I immediately found another character by the same name:
post #1139760

...you uploaded that only to create an issue with the paint_(character) tag, didnt you

Mutisija said:
...you uploaded that only to create an issue with the paint_(character) tag, didnt you

Clearly. And again, it changes nothing besides this one instance.
If there's no existing conflict with the tags, *_(character) is used instead of the owner.

Mutisija said:
...you uploaded that only to create an issue with the paint_(character) tag, didnt you

To prove the issue, since you guys are pretending it's not one. Why avoid solving the problem in the first place? Preemptive solutions are better than the headache caused by late solutions.

Furrin_Gok said:
To prove the issue, since you guys are pretending it's not one.

Because it wasn't a problem until you posted that, whereas the alternate method you suggested is known to be problematic: typos, duplicate tags, etc. Which results in far more extra work than simply fixing the problems if any actually pop up.

Even if it weren't for the overlap with other categories such as copyright, you can't expect every tagger to know which characters are owned by whom. So defaulting to <character>_(<owner>) is infeasible.

If we started to preemptively disambiguate tags when there's no existing need for it, we'd have to disambiguate just about everything. Because any tag can be problematic if you look hard enough for potential problems.

The tag alias paint_character -> paint_(character) (forum #223450) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.