Topic: "solo masturbation sex" - a contradiction?

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

according to the wiki page for sex, it's "sexual activity between two or more characters."

a lot of what's on the sex tag is actually solo characters jacking off; some of this might be due to implications like fellatio to the sex tag and the confusion between terms like autofellatio

the wiki page for solo says that "tentacles only count as a character if they are attached to a visible creature (octopus, etc.). That is, a picture of just tentacles would actually be tagged with zero_pictured." this doesn't contradict the wiki page for sex, but the tags for "sex" and "solo [+] masturbation" are incompatible according to their respective wiki pages, so what should be tagged in the case of an unseen tentacle monster?

most of the "solo masturbation sex" combination is just tagging errors.

in sum, it would be good to clear out these errors while talking about what to do with the tentacles/unseen_character conundrum. personally i don't see tentacles being masturbation in the strictest sense.

Updated by Lance Armstrong

The Sex Tag is just a huge gray on this site tbh dood. ~ w ~)

As for the unseen tentacle monster, I'd still call that sex.
Just because we can't see the body doesn't mean there isn't a second person in the action.
(I know that was a pretty crappy way to put it ◠‿╹;)
Take for example something like this.
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You can't see the body but, It would still be considered sex because their are 'technically' "sexual activity between two or more characters." Given you can't see the second peep completely but their there.

I've said it ones, I'll say it again. This site runs on those types of technicalities lolz ◠‿◠)

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Clawdragons said:
The example image you're using isn't a solo image, and tagging it as solo would be incorrect. The relevant tags would be solo_focus and duo, in this case.

Ah, My bad m8! ◠‿╹)
Was more so looking for an example for the point of an unseen zone-tan like monsters sneak attacking a peep would count as 'sex' in that case even though you wouldn't be able to see the monster making it's move. Wasn't really planning on touching on the Duo/Solo debate since I really wouldn't know where to begin.
(Not saying that in a mean way, Just clueless ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ)

Talking about something like that would be more up your alley Claw-Dood.
At risk of coming off as a bit of a dork, You seem to really know your stuff with the topic of tags and 621 trivia ╹‿╹)

Example of which can seen above ~ w ~)

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fewrahuxo said:
the wiki page for solo says that "tentacles only count as a character if they are attached to a visible creature (octopus, etc.). That is, a picture of just tentacles would actually be tagged with zero_pictured." this doesn't contradict the wiki page for sex, but the tags for "sex" and "solo [+] masturbation" are incompatible according to their respective wiki pages, so what should be tagged in the case of an unseen tentacle monster?

I don't like this one either. Apparently any other body part on its own is considered evidence of another character present and adds to the character count but tentacles don't, leading to images like this...

post #1077867

...being tagged solo even though the character being raped is clearly not alone. How can a character be both alone and getting raped at the same time? In my opinion, tentacles by themselves should count as part of a character and be reflected in the character count, especially when someone is being fucked by it.

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BlueDingo said:
...being tagged solo even though the character being raped is clearly not alone.

well said; i suggest that tentacles do count as a character

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fewrahuxo said:
well said; i suggest that tentacles do count as a character

I'd say otherwise, there are both cases where tentacles are on characters, and cases where they are not acting like characters (for instance, part of the flora or are mechanical). Those would generate false positives, which should be avoided.

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Siral_Exan said:
I'd say otherwise, there are both cases where tentacles are on characters, and cases where they are not acting like characters (for instance, part of the flora or are mechanical). Those would generate false positives, which should be avoided.

perhaps then tentacle_monster can be used for characters, while we relegate tentacles to simple appendages? in either case, it's still tough to decide which one constitutes "sex"

Updated by anonymous

to clarify i won't be able to go through the sex tag, as i'm caught up with forum #230280 taking up all of my tag edits. when i'm done i won't make any tentacle-related changes until consensus is reached.

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Genjar said:
How is that different from how they're currently supposed to be tagged?

i think the contentious point is whether tentacle sex is still sex even if there aren't any additional characters, or if we can define lone tentacles as a "character" for the purposes of tagging sex. because if there is a monster onscreen, that's clearly a character, but what if there isn't?

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Genjar

Former Staff

fewrahuxo said:
i think the contentious point is whether tentacle sex is still sex even if there aren't any additional characters, or if we can define lone tentacles as a "character" for the purposes of tagging sex.

As long as tentacle_rape is implicated to rape, it seems logical that tentacle_sex could be considered sex..

One of the main problems with tagging off-screen tentacles as characters is that it's hard to tell how many of them there are. Do all tentacles belong to a single creature? Even if some are shaped differently?

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Genjar said:
As long as tentacle_rape is implicated to rape, it seems logical that tentacle_sex could be considered sex..

One of the main problems with tagging off-screen tentacles as characters is that it's hard to tell how many of them there are. Do all tentacles belong to a single creature? Even if some are shaped differently?

I say either assume one regardless or one per tentacle color. It wouldn't matter all that much once there's two other characters on-screen.

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