Topic: What do we do about concept_art?

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The problem is that concept_art is totally indistinguishable from any other kind of art. I can draw a pretty picture and call it concept art for some new universe of mine, and that might be technically true, but it's not necessarily good to have that post showing up in search results. I presume most people who use the tag use it in searches like zootopia concept_art or video_games concept_art.

Should we introduce a notability requirement? Tag concept_art only for official concept art of notable works?

What if my post also contained a detailed textual description of the concept? What if that text is instead in the post description? Does that change anything?

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Maxpizzle said:
The problem is that concept_art is totally indistinguishable from any other kind of art. I can draw a pretty picture and call it concept art for some new universe of mine, and that might be technically true, but it's not necessarily good to have that post showing up in search results. I presume most people who use the tag use it in searches like zootopia concept_art or video_games concept_art.

Should we introduce a notability requirement? Tag concept_art only for official concept art of notable works?

What if my post also contained a detailed textual description of the concept? What if that text is instead in the post description? Does that change anything?

I wouldn't be against adding a notability requirement for it. I feel like generally people are going to be using it in the context of looking for official concept art for specific franchises.

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il have to disagree concept art is not official art. This among other things is what it actually is https://www.furaffinity.net/view/24001589/

understand the meaning of concept: design process, experimental, non finalized form, alternative forms, testing of ideas. official reference sheets from big name studios are often called concept art because the are made before the character get animated and usually are not the final form the character ends up being...

concept art does not refer to art commissioned by a commercial copyright owners.

what would need to be fixed would be the wiki with a clearer definition as to what its used for, not special moderated restrictions.

Many YCH's start out as possible concept sketches for a commission that may end up scraped and reused for a ych

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Darou said:
what would need to be fixed would be the wiki with a clearer definition as to what its used for, not special moderated restrictions.

What revised definition do you propose?

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Maxpizzle said:
What revised definition do you propose?

my definition would be an original version of art done by the creator(s) that represent an earlier form of an official product, but don't exactly represent what the product would end up looking like later (or now, if said product is finished).

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When I think of concept art, I think of concept cars. Specifically, does anyone remember this? Shattersday? "The man wearing the red Ferrari hat"? I had rewatched that sale about 10 times on VHS lol. I think that's the right one...

Anyways, concept art should be an early, high-concept rendition of something intended for market consumption that should be released as a more tame version after iteration. The concept is emphasized and exaggerated to illustrate the vision for the product/whatever. In a business setting, concept art is used to pitch an idea. If accepted, the concept is iterated upon and whittled down or expanded by marketing and R&D into something the company believes will attract consumers. In an artist's private study, I believe new art ideas are iterated upon as concept art until some more refined versions are drafted and then probably a final design is selected.

You can shove all the non-product artist stuff into model_sheet most of the time, unless a more specific tag is desired. For the completed high-concept final version of a product I believe prototype captures the idea well. Proving that a post contains a prototype is another matter.

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So as not to leave this unresolved...

I thought of the notability requirement some more, and came to the conclusion that, if anywhere, it would only belong in official_art. But that's already how we tag official_art intuitively, so I don't think anything needs to be changed there.

I'm still slightly worried about concept_art being overused. I clarified the wiki page a little bit and added what I think are representative examples. Feedback is welcome.

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