Topic: Some issue about "Japanese" and "Japanese_text" tag.

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

Japanese_text
>> Images or animations which show text written in Japanese

Japanese
>> Refers to anything that originates in Japan, an island country in East Asia.

As this definition by each wiki,
Seems like Japanese_text tag must include Japanese tag because Japanese_text related with Japanese culture.
However, most post aren't include Japanese tag.

(Korean - Korean_text also observed this issue)

.
If define korean, japanese tag as
"tag when post was related each culture"
It will become clear.

However, Korean and Japanese tag also observed when artist is korean or japanese, despite it's post have any relationship Korean or Japanese.
This is a problem.

.
At least, There is some suggestion.

Implications

japanese_text <
japanese_outfit <
japanese_macaque < japanese
japanese_kobold <
japanese_clothing <
yen <

yen < money

korean_text < korean

.
remove
korea
(because there is "south_korea, north_korea tag already, and each country's culture is quite different.")

(Sorry if grammar is too bad :()

Updated by BlueDingo

BlueDingo said:
That depends. Do you also think that an english tag should be added to everything with an english_text tag on it?

That is a what I said.

If do like that, There are so many meanless english, korean, japanese, chinese tag. It must seems really bad.

However, If not, The tag's position will be ambiguous.

Updated by anonymous

I'm guessing english is not your native language, so I'll be less snarky from now on.

The language that the text is written in is excluded from what the country tags (japanese, korean, etc.) are meant to cover. You can have japanese text on something that has nothing to do with Japan.

Animals native to a particular country are also excluded from the country tags. If they weren't, every image of, say, a kangaroo would end up with an australia tag even if the image itself is not really related to Australia.

Things like traditional clothing and places are typically covered by the country tags. Images that are obviously country themed are covered as well.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

Those are all good points, but I'm not sure if the Japanese tag is salvageable. It's mistagged too much for art that is 'drawn by Japanese', instead of what the country tags are meant to be used for.

I suppose the usage might be clearer if we did implicate some tags to it.

Such as:

Though clothing by itself isn't always enough to qualify for the country tag. Consider this, for instance:
post #563858
I think I see one or two characters wearing a yukata, but the image as a whole is not Japan-themed.

Also a good point about the korea tag. Really should be split into south_korea and north_korea.

Updated by anonymous

I don't think that 'japanese' is a good tag-- it's incredibly vague.

Don't have time for a through repsponce, but I deeply wish to have tags for... culture and architecture and things that.

Updated by anonymous

If we broaden this out to country tags in general:

  • Many country tags are in two different forms (australia/australian, japan/japanese, etc.). Should we use the country name for depictions of the country itself and the other tag for the other stuff?
  • What about things like landmarks? They usually related to a country but images containing them may not be themed around that country (model, poster, etc.).

Updated by anonymous

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