I have an acquaintance of a few months who is what you would call a more niche fetish artist. I see a lot of his more extreme drawings, and people have been overwhelmingly positive toward him. Yet sometimes, regarding artists’ work in general, I see lots of fetishes, whether they be cub, scat, gore, etc., bombarded with variations of these remarks:

“No. Just no.”
“WTF”
“Sick”
“What’s wrong with you?”

Do any of us need reminding that we’re actual furries? A LARGE portion of the population doesn’t like us/holds stereotypes just because we like anthropomorphic characters. If we’re talking about art that doesn’t harm anyone, and is clearly tagged to allow for blacklisting, why are some of us trying to kink shame? Why? What sense does that make?

Report for "refusal to blacklist" and move on.

People leaving hateful and lazy comments aren't helping anyone, but you almost seem to have an issue with people not being comfortable with that specific fetish. Furries are furries, sure, but the guy who likes watersports might not get along with the scat guy or the vore guy or the etc. etc. etc.

lafcadio said:
Report for "refusal to blacklist" and move on.

Could be comments outside of e621

I mean, more generally, why do people leave lazy, negative comments at all, instead of just moving on with their lives? My personal inclination is that it's just a mild expression of narcissism, of the same kind that drives people to leave lazy positive comments as well and/or (in the context of this site and a recent thread asking about the "no creepy" rule) announce their sexual gratification.

I know that's not a very flattering presumption, but I've become deeply cynical of random people in my adulthood, and find it easy to assign negative traits and viewpoints. So I can't help but feel that a lot of people don't want to have a conversation, they don't want to contribute or discuss; they just want to feel like they're being noticed, and lack the self-awareness to accompany their post with a meme akin to "notice me senpai~! uwu".

Being fringe content means it's more likely to offend the sensibilities of others, that's just kind of par for the course on "fringe". I'm glad your friend has mostly received positive feedback while avoid negative. Whatever they're doing to avoid being noticed by the majority of the bell curve, they should keep it up. It's not because they should feel ashamed, it's simply because being "discovered" would mean that they, too, will probably find themselves on the wrong end of a firehose of lazy, negative, demotivating commentary.

People have their preferences. Sometimes, when they encounter something that really clashes with said preferences, they feel the need to voice their frustrations.

I personally don't think that the "refusal to blacklist" rule should be applicable to someone who simply commented on a subject that they did not like. It's more for those who know what they don't like, and yet they keep seeking it out just to badmouth it.

bitwolfy said:
People have their preferences. Sometimes, when they encounter something that really clashes with said preferences, they feel the need to voice their frustrations.

I personally don't think that the "refusal to blacklist" is applicable to someone who commented on a subject that they did not like. It's more for those who know what they don't like, and yet they keep seeking it out just to badmouth it.

Well, on this site, they have two tools at their disposal that are considered preferable alternatives to commenting about their disinterest:

• Blacklisting tags.
• Adding missing tags when a work should have been filtered by their blacklist, but wasn't.

In theory, a proper blacklist means you shouldn't see the content you don't want to see to begin with, and thus have no reason to make those kinds of negative comments unless you have gone out of your way to disable your blacklist. Hence, "report for refusal to blacklist."

But sometimes folks forget to add a tag, or sometimes folks intentionally leave out a tag because they want to troll the community. In the former case, that's why everyone can tag. It's practically a free green bar, if you're diligent about it for long enough. In the latter case, if a particular user makes a habit of omitting obvious fringe tags then I feel certain that they can be reported for improper tagging and the admins will deal with it as they see fit. I guess I could be wrong, as there's no specific rule against failing to initially add a tag, as long as you've met the other tagging guidelines, but I'm pretty sure I've seen the occasional greybar handed out to folks who were routinely neglecting certain types of fringe-content tags.

People become so snowflakey about this I'm seen then lose thier mind at a genuine "I don't get the draw, can someone please explain this kink to me?"

Answering ALL disagreement with "Blacklist or die" leaves you with the stupidity that was the admin team before Bad Dragon took over.

But yes, seruial offenders of complaining or worse, those that search it out to complain, should all be slapped :P

post #83954

People leaving hateful and lazy comments aren't helping anyone, but you almost seem to have an issue with people not being comfortable with that specific fetish. Furries are furries, sure, but the guy who likes watersports might not get along with the scat guy or the vore guy or the etc. etc. etc.

I actually fully support people not liking things. I mention the thing about us being furries to begin with only in the context of people actually kink shaming. See, if someone is uncomfortable with a kink, that is totally valid and understandable, and should be supported with thorough tagging of sensitive themes. What I’M talking about, however, is people claiming some sort of kink superiority (“How can you get off to this!?” “Something’s wrong with you!”) while also being on a site where people literally beat off to drawings of dog people and horse girls. It’s not hypocritical to have preferences, but it IS hypocritical to actually leave those sorts of put-downs on a site like this.

munkelzahn said:
post #83954

Way to add something

camkitty said:
Way to add something

You may not have liked it, but it seemed pretty on-point to me. The folks leaving comments like "What's wrong with you?" probably do have some fetish that they like, that others would find just as appalling.

And I don't think anyone in this thread has suggested going so far as to "blacklist or die" folks who seem to earnestly ask after the appeal of a fetish. Personally, I would read it as at least wanting to engage in conversation, as opposed to the OP's example criticisms like "WTF" or "Sick". Maybe there's other recent forum context that I'm unaware of - I've been off doing other things, I haven't really been keeping up with the forums since the site revamp (I hit my maximum dose of whining pretty quickly, decided I'd wait out the forum threads complaining about the new look, got busy, etc).

being critical of cub art isn't about kink shaming tho, it's more just disliking pedophilia

furries don't need to be accepting of pedophillia just because people outside of the community are prejudice against us, anymore than lgbt people have to, even tho hatred towards furries is mostly just hatred for lgbt being masked and rebranded under a different pretext

basically, paedophiles don't deserve refuge and sympathy within lgbt just because what is typically cisheteronormative society despises us unjustly, even if they are also despised by society at large. while it's common practice for dog whistle terminology from one particular side of our culture to equate lgbt people with pedophiles, the difference is being lgbt is acceptable, being a pedophile isnt (and shouldn't be)

iceink said:
being critical of cub art isn't about kink shaming tho, it's more just disliking pedophilia

furries don't need to be accepting of pedophillia just because people outside of the community are prejudice against us, anymore than lgbt people have to, even tho hatred towards furries is mostly just hatred for lgbt being masked and rebranded under a different pretext

basically, paedophiles don't deserve refuge and sympathy within lgbt just because what is typically cisheteronormative society despises us unjustly, even if they are also despised by society at large. while it's common practice for dog whistle terminology from one particular side of our culture to equate lgbt people with pedophiles, the difference is being lgbt is acceptable, being a pedophile isnt (and shouldn't be)

What does that blog post have to do with the topic of keeping negative comments to yourself?

iceink said:
being critical of cub art isn't about kink shaming tho, it's more just disliking pedophilia

furries don't need to be accepting of pedophillia just because people outside of the community are prejudice against us, anymore than lgbt people have to, even tho hatred towards furries is mostly just hatred for lgbt being masked and rebranded under a different pretext

basically, paedophiles don't deserve refuge and sympathy within lgbt just because what is typically cisheteronormative society despises us unjustly, even if they are also despised by society at large. while it's common practice for dog whistle terminology from one particular side of our culture to equate lgbt people with pedophiles, the difference is being lgbt is acceptable, being a pedophile isnt (and shouldn't be)

literally nobody mentioned cub art until you did

sirbrownbear said:
What does that blog post have to do with the topic of keeping negative comments to yourself?

if you read the topic it's about negative comments on cub posts and somehow thinking that if you're a furry you can't have a negative opinion on cub art because furries aren't seen as acceptable by most people either

strikerman said:
literally nobody mentioned cub art until you did

it's LITERALLY in the first post fam

iceink said:
it's actually in the first post

That's my bad for missing it, but your comment's still irrelevant. Arguments about the sanctity of a specific topic have nothing to do with unconstructive arguments made about those topics.

iceink said:
if you read the topic it's about negative comments on cub posts and somehow thinking that if you're a furry you can't have a negative opinion on cub art because furries aren't seen as acceptable by most people either

Except it’s not about cub, or being a furry meaning you can’t have a negative opinion of cub. It’s about fetishes in general being complained about on e6, cub just happens to be ones that was mentioned.

iceink said:
even tho hatred towards furries is mostly just hatred for lgbt being masked and rebranded under a different pretext

Straws = grasped at.
That is not why furries are hated. Furries are hated because of the porn obsessed people upsetting those who don't like porn, turning children shows into porn, having outlandish fetishes, CSI's "Fur and Loathing", the trope that "furries = bestiality", the constant drama, and recently, the huge amount of toxicity coming into the fandom. That is just naming a few of the many many more reasons why people hate furries.

iceink said:
if you read the topic it's about negative comments on cub posts and somehow thinking that if you're a furry you can't have a negative opinion on cub art because furries aren't seen as acceptable by most people either

I did read the topic, that's why I'm questioning what your rant about MAPs and LGBT has to do with this topic?

And the topic isn't about having a negative opinion all together, it's about llittering an artist's post with those opinions when it has nothing to add beyond voicing your own petty gripes.

iceink said:
it's LITERALLY in the first post fam

It also has scat and gore in the very same sentence, but it's only cub that you are offended by.
Did you came to this thread to preach about cub just because the other one got locked?

This topic is not your personal soapbox. Stop trying to derail a discussion.

Edit: I find it rather ironic that a thread about people leaving negative comments on fetishes they don't like... got a negative comment about a fetish someone does not like.

iceink said:
being critical of cub art isn't about kink shaming tho, it's more just disliking pedophilia

furries don't need to be accepting of pedophillia just because people outside of the community are prejudice against us, anymore than lgbt people have to, even tho hatred towards furries is mostly just hatred for lgbt being masked and rebranded under a different pretext

basically, paedophiles don't deserve refuge and sympathy within lgbt just because what is typically cisheteronormative society despises us unjustly, even if they are also despised by society at large. while it's common practice for dog whistle terminology from one particular side of our culture to equate lgbt people with pedophiles, the difference is being lgbt is acceptable, being a pedophile isnt (and shouldn't be)

Okay, so this actually IS relevant to the topic because it discusses the root reasons why people leave negative comments on fetishes they don’t like (which is the exact subject of this thread).

Please understand this though: tolerating/liking cub art is NOT the same as tolerating child abuse or especially being an abuser. Fictional sexual depictions of fictional underage characters don’t themselves hurt any real people. I can’t speak for everyone else, but if I had reason to believe a given individual on this site was actually abusing children, I would report them to the authorities IMMEDIATELY. I, and I hope everyone else on this site, do not tolerate child abuse of any kind. Children cannot consent and need protection. People having weird art kinks is a different thing. Now, if someone finds themselves in a position where they’re having real-life desires to abuse children, that person should get counseling to prevent themselves from harming anyone. But this site is just for art, a lot of it fetish art. Please do not conflate liking or tolerating cub art with actual abuse. It is not.

sammytheseal said:
Okay, so this actually IS relevant to the topic because it discusses the root reasons why people leave negative comments on fetishes they don’t like (which is the exact subject of this thread).

Please understand this though: tolerating/liking cub art is NOT the same as tolerating child abuse or especially being an abuser. Fictional sexual depictions of fictional underage characters don’t themselves hurt any real people. I can’t speak for everyone else, but if I had reason to believe a given individual on this site was actually abusing children, I would report them to the authorities IMMEDIATELY. I, and I hope everyone else on this site, do not tolerate child abuse of any kind. Children cannot consent and need protection. People having weird art kinks is a different thing. Now, if someone finds themselves in a position where they’re having real-life desires to abuse children, that person should get counseling to prevent themselves from harming anyone. But this site is just for art, a lot of it fetish art. Please do not conflate liking or tolerating cub art with actual abuse. It is not.

IIRC this dude literally made a thread whining about this topic and trying to get cub scrubbed from the site. I recommend not engaging.

sammytheseal said:
Okay, so this actually IS relevant to the topic because it discusses the root reasons why people leave negative comments on fetishes they don’t like (which is the exact subject of this thread).

Please understand this though: tolerating/liking cub art is NOT the same as tolerating child abuse or especially being an abuser. Fictional sexual depictions of fictional underage characters don’t themselves hurt any real people. I can’t speak for everyone else, but if I had reason to believe a given individual on this site was actually abusing children, I would report them to the authorities IMMEDIATELY. I, and I hope everyone else on this site, do not tolerate child abuse of any kind. Children cannot consent and need protection. People having weird art kinks is a different thing. Now, if someone finds themselves in a position where they’re having real-life desires to abuse children, that person should get counseling to prevent themselves from harming anyone. But this site is just for art, a lot of it fetish art. Please do not conflate liking or tolerating cub art with actual abuse. It is not.

cub porn has been used by cub artists to groom minors so you can't say it's never been used to harmful purposes

votp said:
IIRC this dude literally made a thread whining about this topic and trying to get cub scrubbed from the site. I recommend not engaging.

im not even a dude and I've never literally made a topic about cub lmao

iceink said:
cub porn has been used by cub artists to groom minors so you can't say it's never been used to harmful purposes

Could you provide more info on this?

strikerman said:
Could you provide more info on this?

Don't engage, they live to start this kind of stuff

camkitty said:
Don't engage, they live to start this kind of stuff

I might as well argue in good faith.

strikerman said:
I might as well argue in good faith.

You'll be the only one engaging with good faith.

iceink said:
cub porn has been used by cub artists to groom minors so you can't say it's never been used to harmful purposes

im not even a dude and I've never literally made a topic about cub lmao

Oh wait, it was this guy https://e621.net/forum_topics/26789

You sure didn't waste any time jumping in on it, though.
As for your grooming comment, I would like to retaliate with "clearly, the KGB/MI6/CIA/FBI/Majestic/Illuminati/Your Conspiracy Target Here is using violent video games to groom children to be killers and the Columbine killers were planning on building a recreation of their school in Doom".
Fiction is fiction, what others do with it is irrelevant, it remains fiction regardless of what warped and twisted individuals try to use it to accomplish. Use your blacklist.

I got a neutral feedback over a comment. All I said was thanking someone for reminding me to use blacklist and I did use it. Then for some odd reason, I was still seeing it. I later noticed that blacklist was disabled so I fixed it. I use it and yet I'm getting punished. Really? I replied to the message and have yet gotten a response.

koder said:
I got a neutral feedback over a comment. All I said was thanking someone for reminding me to use blacklist and I did use it. Then for some odd reason, I was still seeing it. I later noticed that blacklist was disabled so I fixed it. I use it and yet I'm getting punished. Really? I replied to the message and have yet gotten a response.

Yeah that was a little of that "blacklist or die" coming back. You dared to be negative about it when you said it

iceink said:
cub porn has been used by cub artists to groom minors so you can't say it's never been used to harmful purposes

I know this. That’s why I specifically said the art ITSELF doesn’t harm anyone and that if I suspected someone of harming a child I would report them immediately.

If we’re talking about whether cub art has a net negative effect as in increasing child abuse, I don’t know, but I have reason to doubt it. I have no hard data on this subject specifically. All I know is that when porn is suppressed in some cases it causes abuse to go up. Whether cub porn provides an outlet that helps prevent people from actually abusing, I’m also not sure, but that may be. I just don’t know/kind of doubt banning cub porn would prevent any actual abuse. I think it’s better to focus on preventative education/public awareness, and better intervention resources (Cybertip is an online resource people can use for instance to report child sexual abuse), rather than banning any content whose creation doesn’t involve any minors/abuse in general.

There will be people who will show their disdain for something that is easily avoidable simply because they can, intelligence and reasoning be damned. It doesn't so much have to do with the fetish itself but the lack of self-restraint to avoid looking at something they clearly dislike. To willingly click on an image to look at said image, go to the comment section to voice about how much they hate it, and to give it a dislike instead of just ignoring it speaks for itself and I don't think it takes much to show people how idiotic that decision is.

Moreover, there are also people who will stalk users and downvote literally every single post they make for no real reason. Whether it be here or someplace else, I personally think that there are better things to do with your time than to be so offended over something so petty.

aanyi said:

I personally think that there are better things to do with your time than to be so offended over something so petty.

That's why people invent these sinister, crime-related scenarios around stuff, to feel validated in their wants to see things shamed or purged. Of course they never want to get to the bottom of these issues they claim to be so passionate and vocal about, they just want it off the couple of media sites they frequent and then they'll stop pretending to care.

I'm new to this site so don't really know how to work the tags lol

Sometimes I come across stuff that just kinda makes me raise and eyebrow but I just keep scrolling past it. I don't get why people feel the need to go out of their way just to hate something on here when they can just keep scrolling. IDK though. Some people just want to hate.

consenttgoose said:
I'm new to this site so don't really know how to work the tags lol

Sometimes I come across stuff that just kinda makes me raise and eyebrow but I just keep scrolling past it. I don't get why people feel the need to go out of their way just to hate something on here when they can just keep scrolling. IDK though. Some people just want to hate.

If there's anything that really doesn't strike your fancy, you can blacklist it within your settings.

consenttgoose said:
I'm new to this site so don't really know how to work the tags lol

Sometimes I come across stuff that just kinda makes me raise and eyebrow but I just keep scrolling past it. I don't get why people feel the need to go out of their way just to hate something on here when they can just keep scrolling. IDK though. Some people just want to hate.

BeCaUsE i DoN't LiKe It It'S wRoNg!

Don't know how to link to my comment or format it here, but I just left a comment about how I dislike the art style. Now by doing so, I actually didn't attack that specific artist alone, because it is a relatively widespread art style: blender models that are anorexic, anthro, and have comedically big sexual organs. Is that bad behaviour for pointing out that I don't like this style? I was also the only negative comment, there were like 10 positive or neutral ones already. Should I hide my comment now? y/n

consenttgoose said:
I'm new to this site so don't really know how to work the tags

click the "edit" button on the left side. Go to the window with the tags. Now modify the tags to your liking (add, or remove wrong tags). Click save.

faswfaga36s said:
Don't know how to link to my comment or format it here, but I just left a comment about how I dislike the art style. Now by doing so, I actually didn't attack that specific artist alone, because it is a relatively widespread art style: blender models that are anorexic, anthro, and have comedically big sexual organs. Is that bad behaviour for pointing out that I don't like this style? I was also the only negative comment, there were like 10 positive or neutral ones already. Should I hide my comment now? y/n

It's not easy to decide. If you just write that you don't like it, it could have/has a negative influence to those that like it while having no positive effect at all (except for haters naturally. They bath in the satisfaction to have found another brethren).

If it has something positive to it, too, I would say it's more than welcome but I know from selfexpirience, too, that on this site even that is a sensitive matter.
So if you want to leave a comment which you think is not positive (at least has positive aspects) better leave it out than posting.

By the way, I won't waste anymore energy on this topic. Reading all 37 comments was effrot enough and seeing that the main contributers kept it wellbehaved and IMO just made it worth the effort.

EDIT: Just forgott to mention my 2 cents about the topic "fiction is fiction". Fiction might be fiction but even fiction does influence people especially young ones. So having people use violence in games, films, around them and so on make it to a normal thing. This is applicable to everything (swearing, lieng, fetishes, swindling, robing, raping and so on). But what I want to say is not that we should ban all pedophilia or any other fetish because of that because that will end in hypocracy but also saying that everything is just fiction is ignorance.

koder said:
I got a neutral feedback over a comment. All I said was thanking someone for reminding me to use blacklist and I did use it. Then for some odd reason, I was still seeing it. I later noticed that blacklist was disabled so I fixed it. I use it and yet I'm getting punished. Really? I replied to the message and have yet gotten a response.

It was because of the "this is trash" part

One of the 3 main things I hate about guys on the internet is the propensity to interject into fully functional conversations or comment sections solely to provide an unconstructive dissenting opinion on the topic of conversation. Or, to put things more simply: If you don't like it but people are enjoying it, shut the fuck up!

sammytheseal said:
I have an acquaintance of a few months who is what you would call a more niche fetish artist. I see a lot of his more extreme drawings, and people have been overwhelmingly positive toward him. Yet sometimes, regarding artists’ work in general, I see lots of fetishes, whether they be cub, scat, gore, etc., bombarded with variations of these remarks:

“No. Just no.”
“WTF”
“Sick”
“What’s wrong with you?”

Do any of us need reminding that we’re actual furries? A LARGE portion of the population doesn’t like us/holds stereotypes just because we like anthropomorphic characters. If we’re talking about art that doesn’t harm anyone, and is clearly tagged to allow for blacklisting, why are some of us trying to kink shame? Why? What sense does that make?

People who choose to draw pedophilia deserve to be shamed.

user_4412 said: People who choose to draw pedophilia deserve to be shamed.

I am no fortune teller, but I see more warnings, and potentially a ban for "refusal to use blacklist" in your future.

bitwolfy said:
I am no fortune teller, but I see more warnings, and potentially a ban for "refusal to use blacklist" in your future.

Account's been deleted.

strikerman said: Account's been deleted.

So it is. The last few comments were heading in the direction of a ban anyways.
Still weird how someone could spend 10 years on e621, be fairly active – leaving literally thousands of comments, only to suddenly throw a hissy fit over the existence of cub content on the site and delete their account. I wonder if something else happened that caused this.

bitwolfy said:
So it is. The last few comments were heading in the direction of a ban anyways.
Still weird how someone could spend 10 years on e621, be fairly active – leaving literally thousands of comments, only to suddenly throw a hissy fit over the existence of cub content on the site and delete their account. I wonder if something else happened that caused this.

Though their list is deleted now, I saw that their favorites had quite a few cub images on it, including with young humans. Not even the first time I've seen this happen.

strikerman said:
Though their list is deleted now, I saw that their favorites had quite a few cub images on it, including with young humans. Not even the first time I've seen this happen.

when stuff like this happens I always wonder if it's because someone left their account logged in and some third party (like a roommate/SO/parent/whatever) got onto the account/looked at the history and proceeded to flip their shit.

remember, kids, if you're living with people who might freak out about what websites you use, don't forget to lock your computer when you're not using it, and also probably clear your browser history occasionally/use private browsing.

darryus said:
when stuff like this happens I always wonder if it's because someone left their account logged in and some third party (like a roommate/SO/parent/whatever) got onto the account/looked at the history and proceeded to flip their shit.

remember, kids, if you're living with people who might freak out about what websites you use, don't forget to lock your computer when you're not using it, and also probably clear your browser history occasionally/use private browsing.

Well, there was one such instance back then (if you'd take his word for it).
He claimed that it was a shared computer used by 3 different people on 6 alt accounts.
Later, the whole lot got banned because one of alts started breaking the rules and it made him look like he's talking to himself with the other accounts.

darryus said:
when stuff like this happens I always wonder if it's because someone left their account logged in and some third party (like a roommate/SO/parent/whatever) got onto the account/looked at the history and proceeded to flip their shit.

I could believe that, but it's still weird that the third party would go out of their way to leave a bunch of comments and directly ask for the account's deletion, rather than just chastise the account owner.

If a third party gained access to the account, they had it for at least a day. The timeline of the events goes something like this:

09/19 09:24 They leave a comment on a post with a young character, saying "This is disgusting"
09/19 23:28 Based on a comment report, they receive a neutral feedback, warning them to use the blacklsit
09/20 05:36 They post two new comments [1] [2], much in the same vein as before
09:20 08:33 A forum thread is created, asking how to delete their account
09:20 11:47 They leave one last forum post, and go through with the deletion

The three posts that they commented on aren't really connected outside of the presence of young characters. The first one was posted yesterday, so I suppose they could have seen it among the new uploads, but the other two are from four months and ten years ago respectfully. They aren't in the top-rated of young, as far as I can tell. Maybe, if the third party theory is correct, it's something from the user's favorites?

It wasn't a spur of the moment decision to delete the account either - six hours passed between the creation of the forum topic and their last reply.
I also agree with Strikerman here, that it's strange that someone would impersonate the user instead of confronting the actual person. But then again, some people are weird.

bitwolfy said:
The three posts that they commented on aren't really connected outside of the presence of young characters. The first one was posted yesterday, so I suppose they could have seen it among the new uploads, but the other two are from four months and ten years ago respectfully. They aren't in the top-rated of young, as far as I can tell. Maybe, if the third party theory is correct, it's something from the user's favorites?

it could also be from the browser history, maybe the user was searching order:random or something before leaving their computer unlocked overnight or something.

either way I feel like it's more likely that someone would comment using another person's already existing, already logged in account than a person 180ing their opinion on cubout of nowhere.

Perhaps it's more than one person. At least one was willing to poison the waters by screwing with the user and the site, and another was firmer and wanting to just scorch the earth and nuke things. Or perhaps it is all the user after he'd been found and was humiliated to such a degree that he/she went nuts trying to save face before finally taking the nuclear option.

Without further information, we can only speculate.

sammytheseal said:
why are some of us trying to kink shame? Why? What sense does that make?

Because they are nigh on insentient half-wits scarcely capable of having though processes past their brain stem. Most of the activities this creature undertakes ends up being almost entirely based on emotional fear of the social herd the creature is participating in.

Oh wait, I just summarized the entire human species. My bad.

sammytheseal said:
If we’re talking about art that doesn’t harm anyone, and is clearly tagged to allow for blacklisting, why are some of us trying to kink shame? Why? What sense does that make?

Because, ultimately, it's fun to do so, especially if the shamer can use an allegedly superior moral stance to portray themselves as the good guy.

leon_neon said:
Because they are nigh on insentient half-wits scarcely capable of having though processes past their brain stem. Most of the activities this creature undertakes ends up being almost entirely based on emotional fear of the social herd the creature is participating in.

Oh wait, I just summarized the entire human species. My bad.

Funny.

People kink-shame for the same reason why you decided to necro a months-old dead thread, just to throw a bunch of insults.
They find the subject matter objectionable, and simply must let everyone know about it.

Additionally:
- 1 record for trolling
- 1 record for creepy comments
- 3 records for refusing to use blacklist
- 3 records for insulting other users
... are you going for a high score or something?

bitwolfy said:
you decided to necro a months-old dead thread, just to throw a bunch of insults.
They find the subject matter objectionable, and simply must let everyone know about it.

What I wrote is what you call a "Joke". My comment is definitely not just "throwing a bunch of insults" if you actually read it carefully. At the very least it's barely more insulting as calling Winnie-the-Pooh, "a poo". I would hardly call poking fun at The Entire Human Race an attack or insult and it's definitely not aimed toward any individual here.

bitwolfy said:
Ah. The good old "picking apart a single point from someone's post instead of addressing the argument itself" tactic.
It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it plays out.

7 out of 9 lines of your previous comment was just simply ad hominem. There is nothing to address. I am simply disagreeing with most of it. The first line, "Funny", that is just a sarcastic quirk. I wouldn't call that an argument. The "They find the... ...let everyone know about it." line, the only part that might not be Ad hominem, I actually agree with. I have no argument against that.

leon_neon said:
7 out of 9 lines of your previous comment was just simply ad hominem. There is nothing to address. I am simply disagreeing with most of it. The first line, "Funny", that is just a sarcastic quirk. I wouldn't call that an argument. The "They find the... ...let everyone know about it." line, the only part that might not be Ad hominem, I actually agree with. I have no argument against that.

"Funny" was there because I found the situation deeply ironic.
Comparing you digging up this old thread to someone complaining about a kink instead of blacklisting – that is not an ad hominem attack.

As for citing your records – I found it pertinent, that's all. You do have a history of starting arguments, as well as complaining about posts instead of blacklisting them.
I suppose, your "joking" description of the human race includes yourself.

Honestly, I don't see what the point of your original comment is. Nor do I see the point in arguing about this.

bitwolfy said:
"Funny" was there because I found the situation deeply ironic.
Comparing you digging up this old thread to someone complaining about a kink instead of blacklisting – that is not an ad hominem attack.

Ah, 6 out of 9 Then. I suppose the tone threw me off or was interpreted wrong. But funny thing is, the first response to your comment was me addressing, and disagreeing, with this "argument" to "address", instead of "picking apart a single point" , when there were precisely none to pick apart. I just dissagreed with the notion that my comment was nothing but "a bunch of insults"

bitwolfy said:
As for citing your records – I found it pertinent, that's all. You do have a history of starting arguments, as well as complaining about posts instead of blacklisting them.

You may have found it pertinent (Pfft, sure, a JOKE is the same as blatantly calling a post trash) , but it's an ad hominem, not an "argument" I can address other than just denying it.

Not to mention I am definitely not a static immortal object. It's not impossible to change, and have behavior that previous records don't reflect.

bitwolfy said:
I suppose, your "joking" description of the human race includes yourself.

Why would I not include myself? I am a bumbling moron as far as I can tell. At least I am willing to admit it for the most part, which I can say is lost on some people.

bitwolfy said:
Honestly, I don't see what the point of your original comment is.

To make someone laugh. Anyone, even myself. Isn't that what a joke entails?

bitwolfy said:
Nor do I see the point in arguing about this.

I don't remember anyone or me saying argument was mandatory? I mean, you don't have to argue if you don't want too. You don't need my permission to stop arguing.

The only issue I've ever had with any comments of that type, has been when an image wasn't tagged with a proper set of common blacklisted tags. Saw a few comments of "Why is this showing up for me? I blacklisted X" and half the time people rag on the person for asking that, it's as childish as the "bad because don't like" comments.

this thread's claimed a (surprising?) number of victims