Topic: [REJECTED] Tag alias: smiley_face -> smile

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The tag alias #50788 smiley_face -> smile has been rejected.

Reason: It seems that many people have misunderstood the "smiley face" tag. Which was I suppose to have meant to be a regular "=)" in the picture, or something of that demeanor. so much so, that there's too much to retag. Wether or not this is the case, they both mean the same thing and is not already implied either.

EDIT: The tag alias smiley_face -> smile (forum #304556) has been rejected by @bitWolfy.

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Yeah, no.
This is going to have to be cleaned up manually. There are only 388 posts, should be manageable.

Done. Notes:

The rule I used was "two dots and a curve." I also accepted "two dots and a loop" (smiley face with open mouth) and a few other variants, allowing for eyebrows, shaped eyes, and noses.
I was more permissive if it was surrounded by a yellow circle, and more strict if it was integrated into a face. The remaining images are flashes smiley_face -set:smiley_face_mm_ok -set:smiley_face_mm_check which I won't touch. If there is no feedback for a week, I will go through the "I dunno? Request for comment" section and use my best judgement.

Problem children

probably yes

impmon smiley_face in general: shirt has a smiley face with sharp teeth. Close enough.
A face rather than a symbol: post #2506392 post #1325578 post #1395250 post #1629502 post #2995300 post #178991 ditto_(pokemon)
Smiley face with glasses (Microsoft bob): post #2648589
Smiley face with x_eye and gap teeth: post #529085
Smiley face with right eye covered: post #256798
Smiley face with angry eyebrows: #2299313 post #2872551 post #500918
Smiley face with stuff on top: post #2527730 post #2527726
Smiley face with tongue out: post #976346
Smiley face with skull eyes: post #2240748
Smiley face with x eyes: post #3076722 post #927033
8D: post #2883941 post #2883943
I'm pretty sure it's drawn on the soccer ball post #882785
Marking in fur: post #2093143
These specific impmon images: post #2756461 post #2756449 I feel like the solid red eyes might disqualify it?

I dunno? Request for comment

Is that abstract enough??? Anime eye but minimal mouth: post #203611
In-universe doll with fur texture: post #565677
Does the :3 face count? post #1692886 post #979219 post #2764504 post #296566 post #2734539
:| face, but it feels like a smiley: post #288084
Stone sculptures with heavy ornamentation: post #2906981 post #2892562 Maybe that's the pepe grin?
This ditto face with open mouth post #2764134
Eyebrows and nose lines post #2316102

probably not

Frowny face: post #2682124 post #2997368 post #71215 post #1891860
:P face: post #1751039
:| face: post #2082398
Sweating smile emoji: post #879758
Lenny face: post #1219504
Face with eyebrows and nose: post #2675865
The big yellow ball is obviously based on the icon. But smiley_face is the symbol itself, not things based on it. post #2742812
Do any of the markings look enough like smiley_face? post #2951360 post #2951359
The face on the cups seems a little too complicated: post #2964734
Faces get more abstract as you get to the back, but none of them are quite simple enough: post #39636
muzzle: post #2200237
Long video. I'm like 80% sure the original uploader was referring to the character model: post #2870628
awesome face/epic smiley post #502364 post #1958831 post #44533 The vast majority of awesome_face posts were not tagged smiley_face.
toy_chica_(fnaf)

Do we have a frowney_face like tag? If not, I'll make one for the four posts I found.

scaliespe said:
Could we change this tag to smiley_face_emote or something like that, so people stop mistagging it?

Probably not necessary? Of the 175 bad edits, a total of 86 came from two users.
55 of the mistags were from OLKategrin.
31 of the mistags were from Photolol 03, who appears to speak spanish primarily, so it's probably an honest mistake.
If a mod doesn't step in, I can try dmessaging them.

Bad edits by user

[('TheVileOne', 1), ('Hawk_Kin', 1), ('MandoPrower', 1), ('MrEidu', 1), ('Kanou', 1), ('15535zy', 1), ('TEXASlove1998', 1), ('NoExcusesPanda', 1), ('saimelon', 1), ('BottleCap', 1), ('Zoruken', 1), ('Epipan', 1), ('Sunny_Way', 1), ('fillezophrene', 1), ('Elmonaro', 1), ('Ninelove_KP', 1), ('complete_degen', 1), ('Knotty_Curls', 1), ('tERBO', 1), ('Rusitania', 1), ('JELLOFELLO', 1), ('FuzzyGears', 1), ('kento267', 1), ('Kittymagic', 1), ('Grumps_The_Shark', 1), ('Crazy_Red', 1), ('Fatal', 1), ('blackpatapon', 1), ('sk8th', 1), ('Steeltron-20', 1), ('bartstarter', 1), ('Bpedron', 1), ('Fishi', 1), ('FoxArt950', 1), ('Quantum075', 1), ('BooruHitomi', 1), ('Thaurium', 1), ('FnafDude', 1), ('MalekArt', 1), ('2DUK', 1), ('JoDies', 1), ('GUNNER_24', 1), ('Howlfei', 1), ('severalswords', 1), ('livesinabag', 1), ('Akhaz', 1), ('ragswift', 1), ('PostNuclearMan', 1), ('KitsunePhol', 2), ('TheEngineer00', 2), ('Turboranger', 2), ('Hotsatyr', 2), ('KaDeki', 2), ('elwaffle125', 2), ('RuMoR', 2), ('Fidget_the_Fox', 2), ('Cregon', 2), ('sheryaugust', 2), ('klorpa', 2), ('erica_wolf', 2), ('ErickRedFox', 3), ('wilkielthewolf', 3), ('HamHam5', 4), ('redsealion', 7), ('Photolol_03', 31), ('OLKategrin', 55)]
Total bads: 175

matrixmash said:
Is that abstract enough??? Anime eye but minimal mouth: post #203611

My opinion: yes, but I have no particular justification for it. Perhaps due to the fact that it’s detached from the character. It looks like it was supposed to be something like an emoticon made from the character’s face, which works for me.

In-universe doll with fur texture: post #565677

I think so. It’s round and yellow and not attached to a body. Looks like an emote.

Does the :3 face count? post #1692886 post #979219 post #2764504 post #296566 post #2734539

I don’t think so. Just use :3 instead.

:| face, but it feels like a smiley: post #288084

Due to the very low resolution of the artwork, I’d give this one the benefit of doubt and say it could be a smiley face, and leave the tag.

Stone sculptures with heavy ornamentation: post #2906981 post #2892562 Maybe that's the pepe grin?

I just don’t think “smiley face” when I see those, so I’d say no. They seem too abstracted if that’s what they’re meant to be.

This ditto face with open mouth post #2764134

Nah, that’s just the character’s smile.

Eyebrows and nose lines post #2316102

Eh, I’d say there’s too much detail in the face to put this in the emoticon box. The nostrils in particular would disqualify this one for me.

Thanks for the cleanup efforts. It's greatly appreciated.
I've DMailed the users responsible for the mistagging.

The bulk update request #3894 is pending approval.

mass update smiley_face -> smiley_face_(symbol)

Reason: To be followed by:

alias smiley_face -> smiley_face_(disambiguation)
category smiley_face_(disambiguation) -> invalid

I've been cleaning the smiley_face tag since last year. Since then, more than a hundred users have independently applied smiley_face to posts without the symbol. People assume that smiley_face means the same as smile. It's an understandable mistake.

Currently, I am using a whitelist set to track which images I've reviewed. That's inconvenient, and it doesn't tell the users responsible that they did something wrong.
My request is to replace smiley_face with a new tag, smiley_face_(symbol) which is unambiguous. Then smiley_face_(disambiguation) will warn people that smiley_face is not meant for real smiles and also be more convenient than my whitelist.

Btw, does anyone remember if BUR's have a defined order of operations? Could I have phrased this request as one BUR? If so, lmk so I can add it to the help page.

matrixmash said:
The bulk update request #3894 is pending approval.

mass update smiley_face -> smiley_face_(symbol)

Reason: To be followed by:

alias smiley_face -> smiley_face_(disambiguation)
category smiley_face_(disambiguation) -> invalid

...
Btw, does anyone remember if BUR's have a defined order of operations? Could I have phrased this request as one BUR? If so, lmk so I can add it to the help page.

You're good. There's no guarantee a BUR will execute its lines in the order shown. Since we can't actually do anything with an aliased away tag, you will have to do the BURs this way, as separate requests. The category swap can go in either one, but I agree it makes for better organization where it is.

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