I'm sorry about posting about this in the forum, but I tried contacting the site via email some days ago and still haven't gotten a response - who do I talk to about removing the "conditional DNP" status from my name and art?

Have you tried directly messaging NotMeNotYou? They handle the takedowns and et cetera, they would be the one to contact for reverting a C-DNP request.

siral_exan said:
Have you tried directly messaging NotMeNotYou? They handle the takedowns and et cetera, they would be the one to contact for reverting a C-DNP request.

I'll do that, thanks!

If anyone's wondering, the context of this thread is that some idiot tried to flag one of the artist's own posts for DNP.

wat8548 said:
If anyone's wondering, the context of this thread is that some idiot tried to flag one of the artist's own posts for DNP.

In my defense the site redesign removed the "Posted by:" from the post page requiring me to check the tag edit history to see who posted it... The description was added after the flag.

Only noticed my mistake because I read the post comments after flagging it :(

faucet said:
In my defense the site redesign removed the "Posted by:" from the post page requiring me to check the tag edit history to see who posted it... The description was added after the flag.

I've made this point before, but if the staff are dead set on never adding that back, there should at least be some kind of formal system for associating e621 accounts to artist tags and a visible "posted by artist" on the post page.

faucet said:
In my defense the site redesign removed the "Posted by:" from the post page requiring me to check the tag edit history to see who posted it... The description was added after the flag.

wat8548 said:
I've made this point before, but if the staff are dead set on never adding that back, there should at least be some kind of formal system for associating e621 accounts to artist tags and a visible "posted by artist" on the post page.

If you're taking the time to check the artist page that they're conditional on "only artist may post"* (there are plenty of other CDNP reasons, you shouldn't assume it means artist-only, let alone that it wasn't posted by the artist), is it much of a stretch to also check the tag history to see who posted it? At best, a system for associating e621 accounts to artist tags would be helpful in case an artist's user name here is different from their artist tag, and to help prevent artist impersonation, but if someone's not going to take the time to check who posted it, they likely also wouldn't take the time to check the CDNP reason.

(*) Though the artist page doesn't always list the CDNP reason, and isn't automatically updated when it changes, so you may have the check the list directly.

watsit said:
If you're taking the time to check the artist page that they're conditional on "only artist may post"* (there are plenty of other CDNP reasons, you shouldn't assume it means artist-only, let alone that it wasn't posted by the artist), is it much of a stretch to also check the tag history to see who posted it?

I checked the artist page and saw "Don't post art from the Seekingrelease FurAffinity account". I checked the source and it was https://www.furaffinity.net/user/seekingrelease. It seemed so clear-cut I just immediately flagged it and didn't consider that MoodyFerret actually had an account here.

If the CDNP reason was "only the artist may post" I would've definitely checked who posted it first because that would imply the artist has an e621 account.

faucet said:
I checked the artist page and saw "Don't post art from the Seekingrelease FurAffinity account". I checked the source and it was https://www.furaffinity.net/user/seekingrelease. It seemed so clear-cut I just immediately flagged it and didn't consider that MoodyFerret actually had an account here.

If the CDNP reason was "only the artist may post" I would've definitely checked who posted it first because that would imply the artist has an e621 account.

As far as I know, the artist posting something themselves always takes precedence over any conditional_dnp reason (and even avoid_posting, IIRC). Maybe I'm wrong on that, and if so please correct me, but I have a memory of reading that some time ago from NMNY.

Maybe a compromise where it is stated in the information field that this artwork was posted by an official/registered user, whom is the artist themselves?
Not sure how hard that would be to implement though.

thegreatwolfgang said:
Maybe a compromise where it is stated in the information field that this artwork was posted by an official/registered user, whom is the artist themselves?
Not sure how hard that would be to implement though.

Can't just be if the username matches the artist tag, as some users would steal the artist's name for their own account then, it would have to be a verified thing.

furrin_gok said:
Can't just be if the username matches the artist tag, as some users would steal the artist's name for their own account then, it would have to be a verified thing.

The site already supports "verified" artists. For example, here's Braeburned – the artist page shows the linked user account.
IMHO, something this shouldn't be too difficult to implement. Could just be a little icon next to the artist tag or something.

The only issue is that the verification process is manual, but any staff member can take care of it.

watsit said:
At best, a system for associating e621 accounts to artist tags would be helpful in case an artist's user name here is different from their artist tag, and to help prevent artist impersonation, but if someone's not going to take the time to check who posted it, they likely also wouldn't take the time to check the CDNP reason.

CDNP (and DNP) abuse is far from the only reason this would be useful. I regularly get comments on my own posts written as if they're addressing the artist, and such things are a common sight elsewhere. A lot of people don't understand the concept of a booru, and the change to make the distinction between artist and uploader even less apparent is very unhelpful.

It would definitely require admin time to verify, probably using a similar system to the one takedowns already use.

bitwolfy said:
The site already supports "verified" artists. For example, here's Braeburned – the artist page shows the linked user account.

Well, it did until you removed it two minutes after writing that post.

wat8548 said:
Well, it did until you removed it two minutes after writing that post.

What do you think this is?
https://i.imgur.com/caLLHdq.png

I removed the redundant URL, that's all.
Or are you suggesting basing artist verification on a field that anyone can edit?

bitwolfy said:
What do you think this is?
https://i.imgur.com/caLLHdq.png

I removed the redundant URL, that's all.
Or are you suggesting basing artist verification on a field that anyone can edit?

Looking at the edit page regular users cannot edit which userpage it lists to.

furrin_gok said:
Looking at the edit page regular users cannot edit which userpage it lists to.

Exactly my point. An artist can get their artist page linked to their account by contacting a staff member.

Meanwhile, wat8548 is complaining about me removing the redundant link to https://e621.net/user/show/84192 from the URLs field, which anyone can edit.

So i noticed moodyferret was no longer listed at
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/avoid_posting#conditional_dnp

but their e621 artist page (https://e621.net/artists/53 ) includes

• Conditional DNP: "hardcore/weird/fetishy" stuff is DNP, everything else is fine
• Don't post art from the Seekingrelease FurAffinity account"

Time to remove that CDNP text from that artist page??

EDIT: side-issue ... also noticed 461 moodyferret posts also tagged with conditional_dnp.

(93 moodyferret posts are NOT tagged with conditional_dnp)

listerthesquirrel said:
So i noticed moodyferret was no longer listed at
https://e621.net/wiki_pages/avoid_posting#conditional_dnp

but their e621 artist page (https://e621.net/artists/53 ) includes Time to remove that CDNP text from that artist page??

Nimmy only ever updates the avoid posting page and the conditional avoid posting page. DNP entries on artist pages are user provided and might be out of date, it's not really a good idea to rely on them.

listerthesquirrel said:

EDIT: side-issue ... also noticed 461 moodyferret posts also tagged with conditional_dnp.

(93 moodyferret posts are NOT tagged with conditional_dnp)

This is just how the posts were tagged at the time, it's no big deal. That doesn't just disappear when the artist stops being DNP.