The bulk update request #1424 is pending approval.

remove alias nipple_fuck (0) -> nipple_play (26601)
remove implication nipple_sex (824) -> nipple_play (26601)
create implication nipple_in_ass (1) -> nipple_penetrating (53)
create implication nipple_in_urethra (3) -> nipple_penetrating (53)
create implication nipple_in_ass (1) -> nipple_penetrating (53)
create implication nipple_in_ass (1) -> nipple_penetration (3465)
create implication nipple_in_pussy (15) -> nipple_penetrating (53)
create implication nipple_in_pussy (15) -> nipple_sex (824)
create implication penis_in_nipple (508) -> nipple_sex (824)
create implication nipple_sex (824) -> nipple_penetration (3465)

Reason: From Discord: https://discord.com/channels/431908090883997698/530154835648053258/897844125901127710

Nipple penetration tags are in a bit of a messy state imo, nipple_fuck is aliased to nipple_play (weird, but why not nipple_penetration anyway?), while if a penis is penetrating there's both nipple_sex and penis_in_nipple
nipple_fingering, nipple_plugs, dildo_in_nipple, tentacle_in_nipple and nipple_fisting look correct to me, even if undertagged

Tags visualized:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/863888698964705315/897844502105055273/unknown.png

Following BUR:

alias nipple_fuck -> nipple_penetration

Open to suggestions

shadyguy said:
create implication nipple_sex -> nipple_penetration

Wouldn't a nipple penetrating a vagina, anus, slit, or penis/urethra also count as nipple sex, where it's doing the penetrating instead of being penetrated? Or nipple hot-dogging, where their is no penetration? I think nipple_penetrating or nipple_penetrated would be clearer as to whether the nipple's doing the penetrating or being penetrated (penile_penetration has this same issue, creating ambiguity due to switching its meaning from 'being penetrated' like most other penetration tags, to 'penetrating', while using the same wording).

watsit said:
Wouldn't a nipple penetrating a vagina, anus, slit, or penis/urethra also count as nipple sex, where it's doing the penetrating instead of being penetrated? Or nipple hot-dogging, where their is no penetration? I think nipple_penetrating or nipple_penetrated would be clearer as to whether the nipple's doing the penetrating or being penetrated (penile_penetration has this same issue, creating ambiguity due to switching its meaning from 'being penetrated' like most other penetration tags, to 'penetrating', while using the same wording).

Looks like right now it's interpreted as nipple_penetration -> nipple being penetrated, while nipple_penetrating -> nipple penetrating something
For the penis it seems like it's penis_penetration -> penis penetrating (it's already aliased), while *_in_penis -> penis being penetrated
It is a bit ambiguous, but if needed we can discuss it in another topic

...I could also reverse the alias, nipple_sex -> penis_in_nipple, but I'm not sure about it

shadyguy said:

...I could also reverse the alias, nipple_sex -> penis_in_nipple, but I'm not sure about it

Don’t do that. I’d think something like nipple_in_pussy should count for nipple_sex as well. Probably better to use that as an umbrella tag and have both forms imply nipple_sex.

shadyguy said:
Looks like right now it's interpreted as nipple_penetration -> nipple being penetrated, while nipple_penetrating -> nipple penetrating something
For the penis it seems like it's penis_penetration -> penis penetrating (it's already aliased), while *_in_penis -> penis being penetrated

Yeah, that's how it is right now, but it keeps coming up how it's confusing. A separate BUR should be made to help clarify that by using penetrating or penetrated verbage instead, but I brought it up to nip nipple_penetration in the bud, so it doesn't fall into the same ambiguous wording and require future cleanup if it can be done now.

Hmm, so here's a summary based on the suggestions:

1. Penetration disambiguation (harder)

• Change tag nipple_penetration -> nipple_penetrated (probably requires some cleanup in cases where the nipple was doing the penetrating)

OR

• Use nipple_penetration as an umbrella tag for nipple_penetrated and nipple_penetrating (meh...) (also nipple_penetrated would start from 0 tagged images)

2. nipple_sex and nipple_fuck are weirder

• nipple_sex
• Aliased to penis_in_nipple for consistency with the other *_in_nipple tags

OR

• Aliased to nipple_penetration

OR

• Only when a nipple and genitals are going at it, so it becomes an umbrella tag for nipple_in_pussy and penis_in_nipple (meh...)
• In any case nipple_sex is unaliased from nipple_play
• nipple_fuck gets unaliased from nipple_play, gets aliased to nipple_penetration, _penetrating or _penetrated (I think the general understanding of nipple_fuck is "nipple getting fucked", but I may be wrong)

3. Easy stuff

• Imply every nipple_in_(orifice) -> nipple_penetrating
• Imply every *_in_nipple -> nipple_penetrated

The wikis will have to be modified in any case
Vote now!

Changed the BUR to only include the "easy" stuff, the general penetration disambiguation thing can be done separately.
Should be ready for review