The bulk update request #1491 is pending approval.

remove implication same_size_vore (5836) -> vore (69697)
mass update same_size_vore -> same_size_pred/prey

Reason: Pred/prey sizing can also be relevant for cases of imminent vore, and imminent_vore does not imply or require the vore tag from my understanding. If instead imminent vore should implicate vore then that should be done instead.

EDIT: Changing to same size pred to homogenize it with larger pred and smaller pred, and to remove 'vore' from the tag to remove confusion.

EDIT: Per discussions on the other size difference tags, I'm now changing it to align with the changes suggested on those.

gyrotech said:
The bulk update request #1491 is pending approval.

remove implication same_size_vore (5836) -> vore (69697)
mass update same_size_vore -> same_size_pred/prey

Reason: Pred/prey sizing can also be relevant for cases of imminent vore, and imminent_vore does not imply or require the vore tag from my understanding. If instead imminent vore should implicate vore then that should be done instead.

I think the idea of imminent_* tags are that you can’t say for sure that what it describes is actually going to happen - it only appears that it is. So imminent vore can’t actually be tagged as vore according to TWYS, because it’s possible that vore won’t happen, and you don’t see vore in the image, but you do see what appears to be the character(s) preparing to engage in vore.

By that same token, I don’t really think the vore sizing tags should be used in cases of imminent vore.

Things like post #2992357 make a pretty good case for things like larger_pred I think though, under twys. I mean I suppose it could be imminent_larger_pred but that seems silly since imminent_vore larger_pred should always yield the same results if tagged correctly. Size differences are important for the impact of a piece, and preferences vary wildly. Without the proper sizing tags, it would be impossible to find images of that nature.

gyrotech said:
Things like post #2992357 make a pretty good case for things like larger_pred I think though, under twys. I mean I suppose it could be imminent_larger_pred but that seems silly since imminent_vore larger_pred should always yield the same results if tagged correctly. Size differences are important for the impact of a piece, and preferences vary wildly. Without the proper sizing tags, it would be impossible to find images of that nature.

I think I’d prefer to have imminent_vore imply vore, but the admins have decided not to do that. I don’t think removing this implication is the ideal solution, however.

scaliespe said:
I think the idea of imminent_* tags are that you can’t say for sure that what it describes is actually going to happen - it only appears that it is.

More that tags like vore only apply when it's actually happening. Imminent vore, as its name implies, is for when vore is imminent, i.e. about to happen but not yet happening. Same reason for imminent_anal, imminent_vaginal, imminent_oral, imminent_sex, etc, not implying anal/vaginal/oral/sex/etc. They describe something that is about to happen but isn't yet, and since it's not happening, it shouldn't be tagged.

same_size_vore sounds like it should only be applied when there is vore happening, but not when it's imminent. Just as you wouldn't tag anal_penetration along with imminent_anal, since the former implies it's happening while the latter implies it's not yet happening, you wouldn't tag same_size_vore with imminent_vore.

watsit said:
More that tags like vore only apply when it's actually happening. Imminent vore, as its name implies, is for when vore is imminent, i.e. about to happen but not yet happening. Same reason for imminent_anal, imminent_vaginal, imminent_oral, imminent_sex, etc, not implying anal/vaginal/oral/sex/etc. They describe something that is about to happen but isn't yet, and since it's not happening, it shouldn't be tagged.

same_size_vore sounds like it should only be applied when there is vore happening, but not when it's imminent. Just as you wouldn't tag anal_penetration along with imminent_anal, since the former implies it's happening while the latter implies it's not yet happening, you wouldn't tag same_size_vore with imminent_vore.

I mean, a more apt tag might be Same sized predator to be homogenous with larger predator and smaller predator

Per discussions on the other size difference predation tags, I'm now changing it to align with the changes suggested on those by RainbowDash.

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