Topic: help archive artist URL(s) (using archive.org Wayback Machine, or other) to help find new URLs for those artists

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

short version: when you have time, please archive (using Wayback Machine or similar) to archive artist userpage(s) in case they change username or shutdown the galleries we know about. (but the URLs e621 knows about linked to new gallery/galleries)

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So i wandered across artist spicymelow on e621,
but their e621 artist page ( https://e621.net/artists/60380 ) only has only ONE link (Twitter link) in URLs field
and that Twitter account link now results in "This account doesn’t exist".

I hoped i could see an archived version of artist's Twitter userpage to see if they had another galleries,
but it seemed neither Wayback Machine nor https://archive.today/ had archived artist's Twitter.

Turns out Wayback archived some tweets, but it wasn't obvious they had done so because no one archived Spicymelow's Twitter userpage ( https://twitter.com/Spicymelow ).

archived tweets: https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://twitter.com/spicymelow/*

Archive tweet URLs handy if artist has simply changed Twitter username (because twitter.com/OLDname/status/tweetNumber can forward to twitter.com/NEWname/status/tweetNumber ).

(nothing archived at:
https://archive.today/https://twitter.com/Spicymelow* )

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example of Wayback Machine in action: https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://twitter.com/rizonik_draw

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(wasn't sure which forum category was appropriate. Since archived finds could be used for artist wiki pages, putting in Tag/Wiki Projects category)

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EDIT: currently i just use
1) Wayback Machine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayback_Machine )
2) and archive.today (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archive.today ),
but more info at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_archiving
and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Web_archiving_initiatives

Updated

I second this heavily. The Wayback Machine helped me immensely in finding old tumblr posts. Archives are definitely helpful when artists go scorched earth and delete everything.

(Replying here since this is related)

Another thing for people to do:
Use Wayback Machine (and maybe other archive site) to archive furry art.

The reasons being
1) for art already uploaded to e621, useful to confirm who did art
2) for art NOT yet at e621, a thumbnail potentially useful for finding full-size version (in another FA gallery or elsewhere).
3) potentially other reasons.

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Example: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/yourtreeflower07 now results in "This user cannot be found."

Luckily Wayback Machine has archived userpage
https://web.archive.org/web/20220000000000*/http://www.furaffinity.net/user/yourtreeflower07
archive of their userpage reveal they have a Twitter: https://twitter.com/YourTreeflower

(another TO DO: compare waybacked art by FA/yourtreeflower07 to art in that Twitter account to see if both have some of same art ... ie. to confirm Twitter YourTreeflower is still owned by FA/yourtreeflower07)

An archive of page1 of their FA gallery
https://web.archive.org/web/20200215093416/http://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/yourtreeflower07/
had various thumbails NOT archived
but luckily some of the thumbails still at FA (couldn't find any FULL-size uploads that were uploaded to yourtreeflower07 account)

So today I managed to archive (for that yourtreeflower07 gallery page):
1) https://web.archive.org/web/20221125032542/https://t.facdn.net/[email protected]
2) https://web.archive.org/web/20221125031638/https://t.facdn.net/[email protected]
3) https://web.archive.org/web/20221125031446/https://t.facdn.net/[email protected]
4) https://web.archive.org/web/20221125031559/https://t.facdn.net/[email protected]
5) https://web.archive.org/web/20221125031732/http://t.facdn.net/[email protected]
etc

I archived the thumbails by
1) looking at the archived gallery page,
2) right-clicking on blank thumbnail
3) click on "Copy Image Location"
4) paste the image URL (suggest paste to text-file)
5) remove the Wayback part of the URL (resulting in image URL such as http://t.facdn.net/[email protected]
6) check if that image-URL still results in an image
7) IF yes (to step6) then
7a) go to https://web.archive.org/
7b) and copy image-URL into the Wayback field near top (the one that currently says "Enter a URL or words related to a site's home page") and press ENTER key
7c) if Wayback hasn't archive that image-URL yet, you should see Wayback page that says "Hrm." "Wayback Machine has not archived that URL."
7d) Click on the button (on that webpage) that says "Save this URL in the Wayback Machine""
7e) clicking that button should send you to "Save Page Now" page,
7e1) you UNclick the "Save error pages ..." BOX (NO POINT in saving an error)
7e2) you then click on "SAVE PAGE" button

I suggest you archive only ONE URL at a time.
(ie. after clicking on "SAVE PAGE" button, the Wayback Machine next webpage should soon say
"... A snapshot was captured. Visit page: ...",

at which point it should be ok for you to archive the next URL (if you have made too many archives too close together if will refuse the archive the last URL and will tell you to wait a few minutes before archiving again)

I usually wait at least a minute before I click on the link after that "Visit page". (three minute is a good wait time)

Updated

Istg if I have to add archived_source to over 10 pages of posts again... oh also some sites have dedicated archival sites, like furaffinity has that one fur archive (I forgot the name of) or that onion url

SHORT version of below: if you copy the URL for a blank 'thumbnail' from Wayback Machine and it results in a default image that just says "Image Not Found",
the Wayback Machine currently won't archive that default image (whether or NOT Wayback's "Save error pages" box is checked/selected).

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It seems that if an art upload has been deleted from FA,
the thumbnail URL that used to work results in 120x120pixels default image that just says "Image Not Found".

example: http://t.facdn.net/[email protected]

For archiving purposes it seems that Wayback Machine cannot archive those "Image Not Found" default images.
(which is annoying because nice to make it obvious in the Wayback Archives if someone has already tried to archived a specific thumbail)

Tried today with a few default images and got error in the format of:
"Unknown error for http://t.facdn.net/{NUMBER}@{NUMBER}-{NUMBER}.jpg (HTTP status=513)."
(get error whether or NOT Wayback's "Save error pages" box is checked/selected).

example:
"Unknown error for http://t.facdn.net/[email protected] (HTTP status=513)."

Was poking around Wayback Machine
and was annoyed by some wrong URLs that people are trying to archive.

Posting here on the small chance it might help someone avoid the mistake that is resulting in some errors at Wayback Machine.

https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.furaffinity.net/gallery*
includes attempted archives of "URL"s
www.furaffinity.net/gallery.....54817/Sketches
www.furaffinity.net/gallery.....276/Animations
etc.

I assume it is because
1) FA shortens the display version of URLs (put into FA blogs and FA descriptions) with ellipsis replacing part of the middle of the URL
and
2) someone is sleepy (or equivalent) and copy-pastes the "URL" into Wayback Machine without noticing it isn't a complete URL.

Some bits that I don't think have been covered in earlier posts in this thread.

It seems like some people ask Wayback Machine to archive a page,
get to the Wayback page that says "Saving page [EXAMPLE-URL-here] Done! First Archive
A snapshot was captured. Visit page:" and then an EXAMPLE-link...

and ASSUME that the job is complete,
when all images at that webpage may NOT have been archived. (example#1 at bottom of this post)

(I assume not all images archived because each IP is restricted to have many images each IP can archive in a certain time-frame)...
I have not idea what the limit is ... but when I archive individual images, the limit seems to be ONE IMAGE PER MINUTE.

Sometimes I've asked Wayback to archive too many times in a short amount of time at get Wayback error:
"Sorry
You have already reached the limit of active Save Page Now sessions. Please wait for a minute and then try again."

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(heading out with roomies, so ran of out time to do full-detail examples)

example #1: https://web.archive.org/web/20200215093416/http://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/yourtreeflower07/
see earlier post for details.

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EDIT: additional thoughts
1) suggest waiting until one archive-attempt RESULTS in "...A snapshot was captured..." success, BEFORE waybacking the next URL
1a) suggest waiting a minute(or more) after successful-waybacking of an image BEFORE trying to archive next thing
1b) suggest waiting two(or more)minutes after successful-waybacking a webpage BEFORE trying to archive next thing
2) suggest waiting a few minutes before checking on EXAMPLE -link that comes after the "...A snapshot was captured..." message (maybe at least 2 minutes for an image, maybe at least 3 minutes for a webpage)

Updated

Might be simple enough to create a bot to do this for preexisting links.
Idk what e6 site administration would think about that tho. At least telling the internet archive to do it should be safe tho.
Automated editing. Usually won't end well heh.

Exciting thing (in my opinion) at Wayback Machine.

Wayback is now archiving YouTube videos. This may be OLD news to you (it is unclear when they started archiving YT vids),
but it is news to me ... because in the past I saw too many Wayback pages with message "The Wayback Machine does not have this video archived"
and gave up.

(Maybe only directly relevant to e621 in terms of
1) videos that include furry art... which we can screencap to find via image-search, or
2) videos appropriate to add to e621)

Standard wayback suggestions apply, if a wayback of a YouTube page already has a working archived video ... no need to Wayback it again.

Sometimes the latest wayback of a YouTube page is blocked by an annoying message (such as YouTube's "Before you continue to YouTube" annoying-you-about-cookies message which refuses to go away) that makes it impossible to play the video. In such a case, I suggest waiting at least 3-4 days after the archive-date of the page-with-error before trying to archive it again. (I usually add a reminder to one of my calendars for 7days after the archive-date.)

When archiving a YouTube page succesfully you'll get the usual "A snapshot was captured" success message,
ALONG WITH "It may take a few days for YouTube videos to become available for playback."

Updated

Wayback Machine is busy today, probably want to keep your archiving to a minimum.

Approx 2hours ago I asked Wayback to archive a twitter link and got message:
"The capture will start in ~1 hour, 44 minutes because our service is currently overloaded. ..."

And a few minutes ago got similar message for a YouTube page I asked Wayback to archive:
"The capture will start in ~1 hour, 20 minutes because our service is currently overloaded. ..."

Tried to use Wayback to archive a thumbnail* and result was:
"The capture will start in ~2 hours, 9 minutes because our service is currently overloaded. You may close your browser window and the page will still be saved."

That's the most overload (at Wayback) that I can remember.

Going outside(&offline) to do tasks, and probably won't try to archive anything for at least three hours.

In my opinion, everyone should avoid asking Wayback to archive anything for next 2-3 hours.

* = asked Wayback to archive the thumbnail approximately ten minutes ago (took me minutes to get over shock)

So with a lot of waybacks of FA userpages, one type of thumbnail is sometimes forgotten:
FA userpage mouseover thumbnails (what i'm calling them anyway).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouseover

Explanation of mouseover thumbnails (in case you not sure what I'm talking about):
1) go to any FA userpage with art showing
2) put your mouse pointer over an existing regular-thumbnail
3) after a few seconds a larger thumbnail will appear UNDER "View Gallery" and ABOVE the mini-gallery of latest regular-thumbnails.)

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Archiving of mouseover thumbails OPTIONAL,
but occasionally an image disappears from Wayback (computer glitches??)
so it is nice to have a backup image. (in case a regular thumbnail disappears).

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optional first stage:

1) go to wayback of artists FA userpage and if any regular-thumbnails missing from wayback version, suggest going to LIVE version of userpage and right-clicking on LIVE version of a thumbnail that Wayback doesn't have

2) copy image URL to https://web.archive.org/ (either the "Enter a URL..." field, or the "Save Page Now" field)

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TIP(s) for archiving mouseover thumbnails.
1) go to LIVE version of artist's FA userpage (example: I went to https://www.furaffinity.net/user/lonbluewolf {*see footnote for why this userpage}

2) move your mouse to move the mouse-pointer OVER/ON a regular thumbnail so the mouseover thumbnail appears

3) move up to the mouseover thumbnail (move mouse quickly to avoid other regular-thumbnails)

4) right-click on mouseover thumbnail and click on "copy image location"

5) got to https://web.archive.org/ and PASTE image URL into "Enter a URL..." field first and type on Enter-key (on keyboard)

6) the Wayback should tell you if that URL already waybacked,

7) IF image not waybacked you should see usual "This page is available on the web!..." message, and then you CLICK on "Save this URL in the Wayback Machine" button

7b) if you don't see a "Save this URL in the Wayback Machine" button,
then GO to https://web.archive.org/ and put image URL into "Save Page Now" field and click on "SAVE PAGE" button.

(I hope that is an appropriate amount of explanation)

examples from lonbluewolf userpage:

*footnote = because 1) they are the FA artist with most uploads at e621
2) the SFW version of their FA userpage has same thumbnails as latest wayback archive (so easier to demonstrate)
and 3) latest archive is old-ish (archived in December) ... so can clearly show mouseover thumbnails were archived on a later day.

Updated

Additional set of archiving steps I've thought of:

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STEP 1) check if target URL is online.
Check on whether the URL-you-want-to-archive is currently up (aka online)
( example: if you go to https://www.furaffinity.net/ , do you see the webpage OR an error???)

If the page/image/other-URL is NOT available there no point in trying to archive it. Wait until it back online.

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OPTIONAL 2nd step) check latest existing archives of that website
EXAMPLE: go to https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.furaffinity.net/view/* and click on To column so latest archives are at top,
Check a recent archived URL, and if latest archived URL is an ERROR page (that was archived less than ten-minutes ago) then WAIT (not sure what the magic amount of time would be ... probably at least ten minutes after latest archived ERROR)

EXAMPLE of ERROR at FurAffinity: "Error 503
Please wait a few seconds and try your request again.
The server is either currently having difficulty responding to all requests, or you are requesting web pages too fast and are being rate limited."

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(AVOID going on an archiving spree WITHOUT checking results.
ie. wait 1-or-more minutes after archiving, check IF archive successful, if archiving successful then move on to next archiving)

STEP 3) archive one URL, then WAIT 1-or-more* minutes
(* = if archiving IMAGE, wait one-minute (or more) before checking if image successfully archived.
* = if archiving WEBPAGE, wait 2minutes (or more) before checking if webpage successfully archived.)
b) then check the archived version
c) if the archived version successful displays the target webpage/image/whatever correctly, then move on to next archiving.

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I wandered across a bunch of wayback archives (in same artist's gallery) that were just FA 503 errors,
and it feels like someone went on a archiving spree without checking if the previous archives were successful.

(sleeptime now) zzzzzz

Updated

So is Thursday evening (in the Americas) and a few minutes ago I asked Wayback to archive a webpage and the result was
"The capture will start in ~9 hours, 39 minutes because our service is currently overloaded.
You may close your browser window and the page will still be saved."

That is a LONG time to archive something.

So Wayback Machine is very busy and we should probably avoid trying to archive anything (with Wayback Machine) for approximately at least nine-or-ten hours

Time of post:
8:49pm in Pacific timezone (California etc)
11:49pm in Eastern timezone (New York, etc)
3:49am UTC.

Using WaybackMachine to try and archive FA thumbnails seems to have gotten more complicated recently.

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The GOOD news is mouseover thumbnails seem to wayback as normal (except suggest you NOT wayback anything for 2minutes(or more)
before trying to wayback a mouseover thumbnail
... because archiving more often then 2minutes increases the risk of archiving an error message instead of the thing you wanted to archive.

If the live version of their FA-userpage still produces needed mouseover thumbnail(s) then you in luck.
Otherwise with old mouseover thumbnail in a WAYBACKed FA userpage you don't get option of UNchecking a "Save error pages" checkbox.
(That checkbox can be seen at at https://web.archive.org/save )

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The BAD news is OLD regular-thumbnail locations seem resistant to being archived now probably because OLD location redirects to NEW location.

EXAMPLE:
with https://web.archive.org/web/20150223003355/http://www.furaffinity.net/user/samoht-lion/
archived some mouseover thumbnails
example mouseover thumb: https://web.archive.org/web/20230508225440/http://t.facdn.net/[email protected]

but the corresponding regular thumbnail (http://t.facdn.net/[email protected] ) resists archiving (that OLD URL redirects to URL at t.furaffinity.net )
Trying to wayback that OLD URL results in "The capture failed because Save Page Now does not have access rights for https://t.furaffinity.net/[email protected] (HTTP status=403)."

https://web.archive.org/web/20230508225004/https://t.furaffinity.net/[email protected]
says "403 Forbidden".

Slightly exciting news regarding
Wayback Machine archiving YouTube pages:

waybacks of YT vid pages now starting to include
short preview-video loops (what I'm calling them anyway)
(for SOME browsers)

Re browsers:

  • Safari on friend's laptop shows the preview-vid loops (not all the time... may be a case of migrating the new video)
  • Browsers on my phone don't seem to display the preview-vid loops.

Example: https://web.archive.org/web/20230518045339/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLArlggrWo

("Night Time Remedy" animation by Jib Kodi)
has loop approx four seconds long.

Noticed another that was longer... trying to find it now...

edit: the Wayback page with longer loop is of YT vid that is now "private", going to see if find another example of longer loop.

edit: example of longer loop at
https://web.archive.org/web/20230515124128/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xQmcYmIpx0

(music vid "Leave Me Alone" uploaded by Silly_Tilly)
has loop approx 14seconds long
(took browser more than a minute to display the loop).

Updated

Wayback Machine time (UTC time) is now in July 13 time, so if you feel 13 is unlucky (like i kinda do) then maybe take it easy (binge Netflix or whatever) until UTC time gets to July 14.
(I forgot that Wayback Machine sometimes tries to archive missing images by itself. GAH!)

listerthesquirrel said:
Using WaybackMachine to try and archive FA thumbnails seems to have gotten more complicated recently.
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The BAD news is OLD regular-thumbnail locations seem resistant to being archived now probably because OLD location redirects to NEW location.

EXAMPLE:
with https://web.archive.org/web/20150223003355/http://www.furaffinity.net/user/samoht-lion/
archived some mouseover thumbnails
example mouseover thumb: https://web.archive.org/web/20230508225440/http://t.facdn.net/[email protected]

but the corresponding regular thumbnail (http://t.facdn.net/[email protected] ) resists archiving (that OLD URL redirects to URL at t.furaffinity.net )
Trying to wayback that OLD URL results in "The capture failed because Save Page Now does not have access rights for https://t.furaffinity.net/[email protected] (HTTP status=403)."

https://web.archive.org/web/20230508225004/https://t.furaffinity.net/[email protected]
says "403 Forbidden".

I'm guessing in cases such as above, Save Page Now has trouble archiving the relevant t.furaffinity.net thumbnail because archive attempt(s) involves OLD thumbnail URL redirecting to NEW domain.

Example: visited 2018 wayback of http://www.furaffinity.net/view/26119037/ and tried to archive some of the missing thumbnails,
but by visiting that 2018 archive the Wayback Machine tried to archive some of the missing images by itself.
Example: Wayback tried to archive the main artwork image http://d.facdn.net/art/captainskee/1516484756/1516484756.captainskee_%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%81%D1%81.png , but OLD URL forwards to NEW URL which resulted in archiving error ("403 Forbidden")
which unfortunately means the first archive of the NEW image URL is now an ERROR.
(ERROR example: https://web.archive.org/web/20230713025055/https://d.furaffinity.net/art/captainskee/1516484756/1516484756.captainskee_%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%81%D1%81.png )

re-phrasing part of above: If you visit a waybacked page that is missing an image, the Wayback Machine may try to archive missing image(s) by itself, without being asked (which will result in archiving an error if image URL forwards to NEW FA domain).

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SHORT take-away (moral?): visit more recent* archives and avoid old pages with OLD image URLs until last. (and if you have time, archive image(s) at their current domain)
* = (see below)

According to https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://d.furaffinity.net/art/*
the first images archived at d.furaffinity.net domain were archived in 2015 (BUT that is TOO early, as 2018 wayback now results in aforementioned error),
the next period of time when Wayback started archive images at d.furaffinity.net domain STARTED on Feb 12, 2021 ...

so we should probably first check archives dated AFTER 2021-Feb-12 and archive any missing images (BEFORE checking earlier waybacks)

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SIDE-NOTE: archive.today doesn't seem to have problem archiving OLD FA image URLs that forward to new FA domain.
EXAMPLE (furry by Xmas tree): https://archive.today/Z1rYe

Something got fixed regarding waybacking of FurAffinity images. (i assume someone at FA did the fix)

Now we can once again wayback images from old FA domain (facdn.net)

example: go to https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/http://t.facdn.net/[email protected] ,
click on archive date (July 29, 2023) and you get forwarded to artwork from https://t.furaffinity.net

In a similar manner a http://d.facdn.net/ image URL now forwards to current location of that image at https://d.furaffinity.net

edit: Standard wayback guidelines still apply:
1) always UNcheck the "Save error pages ..." box (BEFORE clicking "Save Page" button)
2) be patient. Put some time in between archiving each URL. (suggest you wait at least a minute before archiving an image)(suggest you wait at least two minutes before archiving a URL that is not an image)
3) suggest you check if a URL works before trying to archive it (suggest using browser "private window" to make sure the URL can be viewed by Wayback Machine)

Updated

alphamule

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listerthesquirrel said:
Something got fixed regarding waybacking of FurAffinity images. (i assume someone at FA did the fix)

Now we can once again wayback images from old FA domain (facdn.net)

example: go to https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/http://t.facdn.net/[email protected] ,
click on archive date (July 29, 2023) and you get forwarded to artwork from https://t.furaffinity.net

In a similar manner a http://d.facdn.net/ image URL now forwards to current location of that image at https://d.furaffinity.net

edit: Standard wayback guidelines still apply:
1) always UNcheck the "Save error pages ..." box (BEFORE clicking "Save Page" button)
2) be patient. Put some time in between archiving each URL. (suggest you wait at least a minute before archiving an image)(suggest you wait at least two minutes before archiving a URL that is not an image)
3) suggest you check if a URL works before trying to archive it (suggest using browser "private window" to make sure the URL can be viewed by Wayback Machine)

It was their policy change, apparently. For years, they didn't want people archiving the site. Compare to IB and e621 where you can just download the entire list of image URLs in a range. See also: Fanfiction.net and their weirdness.

Archive-related info regarding DeviantArt (that some of you may be aware of, but is news to me):

(click for boring intro)

Checked out https://www.deviantart.com/akeyla and is "Deactivated Account",
but URLs to art in their account still work (as long as that artwork not deleted).
example URL https://www.deviantart.com/akeyla/art/too-early-bird-108736965
plus more examples at https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://akeyla.deviantart.com/art/*

(Presumably they Deactivated their account sometime after 2023 Feb1, because a 2023 Feb 1 wayback
has artist username/link withOUT the strikethrough.

Presumably this means other DA accounts that are "Deactivated" also have artworks in their account that are still viewable via URL for that artwork.

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Side-note: display image art URLs from DA in 2015 (& maybe nearby years) still forward to the current image location
example: http://orig08.deviantart.net/8dda/f/2011/335/a/f/where_the_journey_begins____by_alectorfencer-d4hulfq.jpg
forwards to the relevant LooooooNG wixmp.com URL)
That display image URL from https://web.archive.org/web/20151028224758/http://alectorfencer.deviantart.com/art/Where-the-journey-begins-271845638
Display art image archived today (unless Wayback forgets it archived it)

alphamule

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listerthesquirrel said:
Archive-related info regarding DeviantArt (that some of you may be aware of, but is news to me):

(click for boring intro)

Checked out https://www.deviantart.com/akeyla and is "Deactivated Account",
but URLs to art in their account still work (as long as that artwork not deleted).
example URL https://www.deviantart.com/akeyla/art/too-early-bird-108736965
plus more examples at https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://akeyla.deviantart.com/art/*

(Presumably they Deactivated their account sometime after 2023 Feb1, because a 2023 Feb 1 wayback
has artist username/link withOUT the strikethrough.

Presumably this means other DA accounts that are "Deactivated" also have artworks in their account that are still viewable via URL for that artwork.

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Side-note: display image art URLs from DA in 2015 (& maybe nearby years) still forward to the current image location
example: http://orig08.deviantart.net/8dda/f/2011/335/a/f/where_the_journey_begins____by_alectorfencer-d4hulfq.jpg
forwards to the relevant LooooooNG wixmp.com URL)
That display image URL from https://web.archive.org/web/20151028224758/http://alectorfencer.deviantart.com/art/Where-the-journey-begins-271845638
Display art image archived today (unless Wayback forgets it archived it)

FA used to have that because of difference between disabling status page and the actual posts and the gallery view. I have no idea why they had those that way, but meh, defunct difference now as they lock all 3, usually, nowadays.

As someone who wants to archive as much as I can on here and Rule 34 I approve this message πŸ‘

Keep archiving as much as possible

earthfurst2 said:
Wayback Machine seems to be having a major outage.
They haven't tweeted about status of Wayback, so I tweeted them about the outage.

Their Twitter is https://twitter.com/internetarchive

(Do they have a Threads account?)

Good time to do a bunch of RealLife/offline and non-archive bunch of stuff.

Or you can use archive.today as an alternative. Works well with furaffinity too.

alphamule said:
LOL, good ol' Camfex.

Makes me wonder if Smaugit* (the FA username that made archiving of FA-mature content possible for awhile)
became Camfex.
OR if more than two furries have worked at archive.org
.

* = Imagine a dragon (Smaug) atop a hoard of furry art.

EDIT: OOPS, sorry. My brain did a brainfail. Camfex is FA username used by archive.today. (And I just noticed is also DevArt username that archive.today also uses.)

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On to new-ish sub-topic:
I forget about SoFurry, sometimes for months at a time:
But there is still archiving to be completed there.
1) (as with other websites) a SoFurry webpage might be archived, but the main art on that page might not have been archived.
example: http://web.archive.org/web/20221227071043/https://www.sofurry.com/view/238981 archived back in 2022, but the artwork not archived until few days ago {right-click & "view image" reveals archive date of 20230821 (2023-Aug-21)}
2) On SoFurry view webpages, below the main art there are thumbnails and interesting thing with those SoFurry thumbnails is if you mouse-over them you get a larger "hoverPreview" version. I wondered if by mousing-over to view the hoverPreview, you were archiving the hoverPreview (if not archived already) and the answer is YES, you are archiving that image.
Example: above-mentioned wayback of sofurry.com/view/238981 includes thumb of "Shadzy say Thank you" and hoverPreview of that image now archived (today) at http://web.archive.org/web/20230824044924/https://www.sofurryfiles.com/std/hoverPreview/page/286073

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Protip if archiving ImgUr galleries on Wayback (they'll get around to wiping everything furry+NSFW on ImgUr, eventually...), is to add /zip to the path (Hmm, Redditors figured this out first). It doesn't always work (I think because of videos), but it's much more effective if it does. And it seems bjorked. http://imgur.com/download/********/ gives me 403(Wayback). Bah, so much for working. I swear I was able to do this a few hours ago. :( Oh right: 500(either of my ISPs) code means it's overloaded, for reals, and not the fake overloaded it does to VPNs, hehe.

Example: *removed until I get a working one*

Sometimes, Archive.Today can successfully archive things that just don't work on archive.org due to overly-clever 'design' (in cargo cult sense).

I don't remember if there was a topic where we discussed site-specific tricks besides this one. i.e. Tumblr makes you import it into your account to get the original images, but not sure if it still works.

:edit:
This works. Redirects here Caution:Fluffy Pony comic
Just replace 6Gz915i with any gallery link.

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*sigh*
So Wayback Machine has had trouble archiving FA webpages for approx an hour.
(edit: I'm going to GUESS this problem might persist for at least another hour)

An archive is made, but instead of the usual guest webpage layout (of mostly-white lettering ON black&grey background),
the archive-version is barebones black-lettering, on white-background with WONKY layout.

Example: http://web.archive.org/web/20230925232431/https://www.furaffinity.net/view/53795579/
photo (rating: general)
titled "Fort Meigs Monument"

(approx 3 hours later) EDIT: oh good, looks like Wayback Machine fixed the problem.

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Noticing a (small?) glitch at Wayback Machine that i thought i'd share here.

Wandered across a wayback of a YouTube vid page that isn't recognized by the Wayback timeline.

the invisible(?) wayback (dated 2023 May 27): https://web.archive.org/web/20230527125032/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwOkmpNBmWo
(a vid by SomeThingElseYT )

but the Wayback date-range for that YouTube URL are currently "24 Apr 2018 - 10 May 2023".
(ie. 2023 May 27 falls outside of above date-range)

same date-range omission if you go to the general Wayback page of same YouTube URL
(https://web.archive.org/web/20230000000000*/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwOkmpNBmWo
which says "Saved 151 times between April 24, 2018 and May 10, 2023."
(edit: fixed typo)

edit: another example
https://web.archive.org/web/20230705055124/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXgFxrT4TDI
dated 2023 July 5,
but date range for archives of that YouTube url is "22 Jan 2021 - 14 Mar 2023".

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Tried to wayback another image today and result was:
"You cannot make more than 200 captures per day. Please email us at "info {at} archive.org" if you would like to discuss this more."

I'm fairly sure this is the the first time I've seen that Wayback-error message, so maybe is a new limit.

Tried to wayback a YouTube video page, around 21:20 pm UTC (Dec 21)
and result was "This host has been already captured 60,183.0 times today. Please try again tomorrow. ..."

So should be able to archive again when UTC time gets to December 22.

NOTE: if a YouTube page has already been archived successfully (including the video), please don't archive again.

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listerthesquirrel said:
Tried to wayback another image today and result was:
"You cannot make more than 200 captures per day. Please email us at "info {at} archive.org" if you would like to discuss this more."

I'm fairly sure this is the the first time I've seen that Wayback-error message, so maybe is a new limit.

Apparently, there's better ways if you want to archive hundreds of small(ish) files like that. Have you seen formats like WARC and web recording?

Today i noticed https://www.furaffinity.net/user/xenomadnessFA
is now "The page you are trying to reach is currently pending deletion by a request from its owner."

So we have an unknown amount of time (probably days) to wayback missing XenomadnessFA images so incomplete waybacks of XenomadnessFA are accompanied by the images that should appear in those archives.

Link to the various archives of xenomadnessfa's userpage:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xenomadnessfa

EDiT: example: some images were missing at
https://web.archive.org/web/20180613135930/http://www.furaffinity.net/user/xenomadnessfa
I think i've successfully waybacked the xenomadnessfa thumbails of that wayback of xenomadnessfa userpage.
(haven't worked on the thumbnails of the favourites because presumably they aren't pending deletion)

EDiT: For archiving art in their gallery:
1) started with the furry Mormon artwork https://web.archive.org/web/20180615173222/http://www.furaffinity.net/view/27245475/
2) went as early as Pansexual (ha ha ha LOL) https://web.archive.org/web/20180615215444/http://www.furaffinity.net/view/27033966/
3) and went as recent as "Grim: alternative new design" https://web.archive.org/web/20180615173242/http://www.furaffinity.net/view/27269920/
So a dozen FA view webapges in all (so far).

(Heading out for errands.)

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listerthesquirrel said:
... Camfex is FA username used by archive.today. (And I just noticed is also DevArt username that archive.today also uses.)

Seems Camfex is no longer logged-into DeviantArt,
so archive.today can no longer archive rated Mature art at DeviantArt.

example #1: (chibi?) anthro pony (female or girly)(in lingerie?) at https://archive.is/AVLUA
("This deviation has been labeled as containing themes not suitable for all deviants.")
live version: https://www.deviantart.com/magnaluna/art/Silky-Stings-933779303

example #2: comic page 6 by SushiGoat
https://archive.is/jNYRv
live version: https://www.deviantart.com/sushigoat/art/HelluvaFuck-page-6-880937479

So tried to wayback an art page a few minutes ago and Wayback Machine replied:
"The capture will start in ~17 minutes because our service is currently overloaded. ...."

(edit: so for today, I'm probably going to restrict myself to Waybacking one thing an hour ... until Wayback is no longer overloaded)

*
Also, I suggest avoid waybacking an artist's LATEST upload to FurAffinity,
because latest upload has "Next" link, but NOT a "Prev" (previous) link.

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listerthesquirrel said:
Seems Camfex is no longer logged-into DeviantArt,
so archive.today can no longer archive rated Mature art at DeviantArt.

"We don't support your current browser version. Please upgrade your browser, it includes important security updates." Also, this. Sigh, probably have to ask them to fix it. I think it refuses to let you even log in if you get that message? I don't know who handles the Camfex account.

That thing with next/previous is mostly harmless if you have archives of the gallery view.

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