Topic: [Feature] Disable hiding alias, implication, and BUR threads

Posted under Site Bug Reports & Feature Requests

Requested feature overview description.
Prevent users from hiding a thread in forum category 2 (Alias and Implications Suggestions), or any individual comment that has an alias, implication, or BUR attached.

Why would it be useful?
Some people get one argument against their request and decide to completely hide their thread, especially now that you can hide a thread even after others have responded to it.
This problem is visible in BUR #1887 where the request is still pending, but the thread cannot be accessed. In BURs, the creator can at least also reject it, but that's not currently possible for alias and implication requests.
Stopping users from hiding their thread would allow others to comment their own opinions--perhaps that one argument is in the minority, and can be considered invalid.

What part(s) of the site page(s) are affected?
Forum Category_ID:=2 and forum searches for your own comments that came from those threads.

I've encountered a few aliases and implications that I've wanted to request, to find that somebody has already requested it but hidden the thread. I end up doing nothing because I'm not sure what I can do.

I'd support either this feature, or the automatic rejection of the request if the thread is hidden.

I believe some people hide their topic threads thinking that it would be akin to "withdrawing" their alias/implication suggestions, not knowing that it is still listed as pending in the background.

faucet said: I'd support either this feature, or the automatic rejection of the request if the thread is hidden.

+1 for the automatic rejection of request thing.

matrixmash said:
+1 for the automatic rejection of request thing.

Same for me. It is probably the behaviour that people who hide request topics were expecting in the first place (speaking from experience). Being unable to hide topics in this kind of situation would just confuse the OP and they might interpret that as a bug.

Additionally, there should be a warning message in case someone is not expecting that behaviour: "Hiding this request will automatically reject it. Hide request?"

I'm not sure users should be able to hide entire topics to begin with. If there's discussions going on in the thread, a normal user shouldn't be able to remove the entire thread just because they happened to be the thread creator. Or worse, if there's related BURs in the thread that are still good. A user shouldn't be encouraged to hide the whole thread to reject their own alias/implication request, there should be a method to self-reject the request without hiding the thread, and they shouldn't have the power to hide everyone else's comments in the topic, IMO.

+1, and/or also the ability for regular alias/implication requests to be rejected by the creator without having to hide the thread

watsit said:
I'm not sure users should be able to hide entire topics to begin with. If there's discussions going on in the thread, a normal user shouldn't be able to remove the entire thread just because they happened to be the thread creator. Or worse, if there's related BURs in the thread that are still good. A user shouldn't be encouraged to hide the whole thread to reject their own alias/implication request, there should be a method to self-reject the request without hiding the thread, and they shouldn't have the power to hide everyone else's comments in the topic, IMO.

It used to be the case that a thread couldn't be hidden if there were replies to it, not sure when that changed but I figure the staff had good reason to update it. To me it would be preferable that threads with conversation couldn't be hidden at all, but there's still the issue of users who create a request and immediately hide it while it has no conversation in it.

watsit said:
I'm not sure users should be able to hide entire topics to begin with. If there's discussions going on in the thread, a normal user shouldn't be able to remove the entire thread just because they happened to be the thread creator. Or worse, if there's related BURs in the thread that are still good. A user shouldn't be encouraged to hide the whole thread to reject their own alias/implication request, there should be a method to self-reject the request without hiding the thread, and they shouldn't have the power to hide everyone else's comments in the topic, IMO.

+1 to all this. Surely it should be possible to hide only the first post in a thread in much the same way as it's possible to hide other posts?

It should still not be possible to hide a pending alias/implication/BUR, though. And this doesn't just affect entire threads - it's equally possible to hide a BUR that was posted in reply to another thread. I'm not sure it should be possible to hide accepted or rejected ones either - the discussion might need to be referred back to in the future, either to inform discussions on another tag or to prevent somebody from making the same mistake twice.

thegreatwolfgang said:
Bumping this because people are still hiding alias/implication suggestions thinking that it would "reject" them (e.g., topic #32701).

That user even blocked DMs to tell them "hey that doesn't work please don't do that"

Double bump since it happened again, I listed a lot more on my comment on topic #32784 before they all got hidden.

I feel there should be better ways of reporting hidden threads so that vote manipulation does not take place, i.e., hiding threads in light of heavy opposition and then remaking them in BURs (e.g., topic #32819).

waydence said:
Been there, done that. Either disallow hiding, or auto-reject when topic is hidden.

Rather not the latter, hiding it in general also hides discussion. Even an empty thread can get discussion after rejection, but can't if it's hidden, which will only carry a greater risk of someone doing that again later.

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