What would one do about a particular species if it’s a hybrid between two species, yet also has its own set of unique traits because of its lore?
I ask because this conundrum was brought to my attention while discussing an un-alias for the “kittydog” species, a species of which I believe fits the criteria of this conundrum, and I’m still kind of puzzled, even after an informed response.

I submitted a bulk update request as instructed, plus added reasoning, but it was met with disagree votes and no written input, so I’m not sure what I may have done wrong or if I don’t understand something. I’m still adamant that it has strong enough reasoning to be considered its own species (and supposedly so does the creator), so I’d like to see what more higher-ups can say about this and help inform me better about the operation of tags. I can go into more detail about my reasoning for an un-alias, but I’ll leave that out for now.

Can someone give me some input on this conundrum?

"This species features both normally exclusive traits, such as both pairs of ears" is not sufficient reason to say "welp it's not a hybrid anymore." It's still a hybrid. You want to have your own, custom species that doesn't involve being a hybrid, but just happens to have traits from two animals? Don't be stupid and call it by a hybrid term. "Kitty-Dog" is literally "Kitty" plus "Dog". 100% a hybrid term. Temmie? Not.

as a base line fake species with the species names taped together of what it's a hybrid of, is always going to go into the dumpster. Fake species with a name that actually took some consideration, and is associated to some sort of world has a much better chance of staying around as a tag.

furrin_gok said:
... You want to have your own, custom species that doesn't involve being a hybrid, but just happens to have traits from two animals? Don't be stupid and call it by a hybrid term. "Kitty-Dog" is literally "Kitty" plus "Dog". 100% a hybrid term. ...

That's part of this conundrum, it's kinda vague as the creator says they're "magical", which might warrant it being unique enough, according to the first forum post I linked, but I do admit there's not much to them after that, at least from what I've read. The creator has created some of these species for a series thing they're planning, but they've withheld more information as to what other traits they may have.
Ultimately I think the strongest reasoning I have is that there's a lot of art people have created of characters of this species (mainly from the creator) that people may be looking for, which would be much more helpful than just sifting through the hybrid tag.

versperus said:
... and is associated to some sort of world has a much better chance of staying around as a tag.

Hm... Even more conundrums then... On the creator's toyhou.se page, they say they've got a story planned and they even have many characters under the umbrella of this species, but the story is "hella unfinished" so....

Unless you can see that a creature is magical, it isn't magical for our tagging purposes.

totallynotwatsoninc said:
That's part of this conundrum, it's kinda vague as the creator says they're "magical", which might warrant it being unique enough

Don't even start on that. A magical biology is not something visible. That's the same road Mimiffs tried to go down and that just lead to zealous taggers who caused the whole thing to get shut down with a vengeance.

totallynotwatsoninc said:
Ultimately I think the strongest reasoning I have is that there's a lot of art people have created of characters of this species (mainly from the creator) that people may be looking for, which would be much more helpful than just sifting through the hybrid tag.

"The creator has a story and world planned," "a lot of other people have drawn them" these two statements kind of go strongly against one another. There might be a world/story planned, but without it actually in place, people are just producing their own products.

Let's dig into the source material:

• The artist straight up calls it a hybrid themself.
• You can optionally add horns, wings, etc. This is something you can do to literally any hybrid or nonhybrid already.
• Multi-ear isn't even required, just assymetrical ears that could feasibly resemble each species. Again, that's something anything can have.

The fact that this is so strongly open just means that it's not being treated as a species. The fact that the artist themselves call it a hybrid shows that they recognize this. It is a hybrid of cat and dog.

furrin_gok said:
Don't be stupid and call it by a hybrid term. "Kitty-Dog" is literally "Kitty" plus "Dog". 100% a hybrid term.

*cues catdog theme song*

furrin_gok said:
The fact that this is so strongly open just means that it's not being treated as a species. The fact that the artist themselves call it a hybrid shows that they recognize this. It is a hybrid of cat and dog.

Ah ok. Thank you, this clears up the semantics about the hybrid tag and kittydog species.
If I may ask, since I’m relatively a newbie to the site, what happened with the community and Mimiffs?

totallynotwatsoninc said:
Ah ok. Thank you, this clears up the semantics about the hybrid tag and kittydog species.
If I may ask, since I’m relatively a newbie to the site, what happened with the community and Mimiffs?

It's a giant can of worms. You can start reading here if you want to look at it all, but to very briefly summarize: The concept was that it was "A magical species that could have many forms." If something had magic, suddenly it was a Mimiff.

furrin_gok said:
It's a giant can of worms. You can start reading here if you want to look at it all, but to very briefly summarize: The concept was that it was "A magical species that could have many forms." If something had magic, suddenly it was a Mimiff.

i have understand that the mimiff, tends to overload psychic powers in their multi eyes, The creator has also told me that they can have parasites, that they are living mouths paralyzing their combustion to manage their body, however the onoi are capable of controlling them, it is only a clarification on her part, please don't kill me for saying it, just explain how each part of their body works by the creator herself, take it as a saying on her part, although it could be another species if the tag parasites were a specific species or monsters if is the specie from the character I was just interviewing the creator and her creations, her art itself, I won't lie to you guys, it's quite varied in art styles not for something, she has talent, that many of my friends have taken it upon themselves to steal her identity here, On the other hand, I would say that the hybrid tag can be harmful if it is not the appropriate species itself, which harms the artist in saying that it was based on an Eastern, African or Western legend, to put it in a more analytical way, As for the other species, treboloids and glarkian dragons feel like a label that has not been well explained, or as an expansion of another species, in fact, treboloids could be compared to deltarune's darkners because they both have a quite similar in appearance, like having the appearance of an application or an antivirus, or the glarkian dragons that feel like a fusion between the mimiff and the dragons together, I could even say that it is anything but not a mimiff or a glarkian dragon, and and i'm just criticizing the concept of the glarkian dragons and treboloids species that she has created

dorafuhu said:
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oh, you're back

strikerman said:
oh, you're back

?

strikerman said:
oh, you're back

rather you will say oh you guys are back, because there are 3 people who manage this account, we were just going to read the forum and... already? really that guy you answered was korona, our cousin who managed this account, he can be sensitive, the other is the sister of the creator who only uploads content on this site, I only have the job of reading and criticizing something on this site they call me by my nickname soos I usually answer korona at night in the afternoon and our cousin only uploads content, we did not have enough experience despite our 22, 25 and 20 years in this, we were just a few rookies. -by soos

versperus said:
?

Mimiff man, mimiff man
Circumvents age limit ban
Spams a thread, any size
Got a tag? It's vandalised
Look out! Here comes mimiff man

I think mimiff guy is kind of charming, honestly. Most vandals are so rude and mannerless. All the flame wars and insults and stuff. Mimiff guy mostly just rambles about pleasant nonsense. Even when people are rude to them, they don't seem to get rude back.

matrixmash said:
Mimiff man, mimiff man
Circumvents age limit ban
Spams a thread, any size
Got a tag? It's vandalised
Look out! Here comes mimiff man

I love both this post and the fact that you didn't even have room for all of their accounts.

dorafuhu said:
rather you will say oh you guys are back, because there are 3 people who manage this account, we were just going to read the forum and... already? really that guy you answered was korona, our cousin who managed this account, he can be sensitive, the other is the sister of the creator who only uploads content on this site, I only have the job of reading and criticizing something on this site they call me by my nickname soos I usually answer korona at night in the afternoon and our cousin only uploads content, we did not have enough experience despite our 22, 25 and 20 years in this, we were just a few rookies. -by soos

Accounts aren't supposed to be shared. Never "manage with three people".

furrin_gok said:
Accounts aren't supposed to be shared. Never "manage with three people".

damn, i think you have reason in that, i suppose they needs have 2 account for themselves alone, they just do disorder here...
....
but i have understand that user bds17 he was stalking my sister in deviantart by a dumb fake imitation in this site, besides her true old account was mimifftrashtag/pacherry/kakhmiff/marianaglaceon marianaglaceon was change by me, bds17 is just a stalkertard in deviantart, i'm just her mayor sister.

matrixmash said:
Mimiff man, mimiff man
Circumvents age limit ban
Spams a thread, any size
Got a tag? It's vandalised
Look out! Here comes mimiff man

I love this.

wat8548 said: I love both this post and the fact that you didn't even have room for all of their accounts.

You are severely underestimating just how many alt accounts they made.
I count no less than 23, although it's likely there are more that were not documented properly.

One day, they'll get the messages that neither they, nor their imaginary friends and family, are welcome on this site.