The tag implication #45461 malzeno -> elder_dragon has been rejected.

Reason: Malzeno is an Elder Dragon from MH Rise.

EDIT: The tag implication malzeno -> elder_dragon (forum #340328) has been rejected by @gattonero2001.

@versperus care to elaborate?

waydence said:
@versperus care to elaborate?

My only guess would be that he though Malzeno was a character, not a species.

https://e621.net/forum_topics/34625

Bump

"Elder dragon" is a meaningless tag. It has no solid meaning of its own, and what meaning it does have varies from person to person. If anything, the tag should be invalidated.

lonelylupine said:
"Elder dragon" is a meaningless tag. It has no solid meaning of its own, and what meaning it does have varies from person to person. If anything, the tag should be invalidated.

This tag specifically refers to a class of monsters from Monster Hunter... but the tag name does not make that clear. It should be changed to elder_dragon_(mh) imo because there's also elder dragons in Guild Wars, Elden Ring, Skyrim, MTG, Exiled Kingdoms, RuneScape and probably dozens more RPG franchises.

The bulk update request #2948 is active.

Reason:

faucet said:
This tag specifically refers to a class of monsters from Monster Hunter... but the tag name does not make that clear. It should be changed to elder_dragon_(mh) imo because there's also elder dragons in Guild Wars, Elden Ring, Skyrim, MTG, Exiled Kingdoms, RuneScape and probably dozens more RPG franchises.

Guy's got a point.

EDIT: The bulk update request #2948 (forum #341056) has been approved by @gattonero2001.

faucet said:
This tag specifically refers to a class of monsters from Monster Hunter... but the tag name does not make that clear. It should be changed to elder_dragon_(mh) imo because there's also elder dragons in Guild Wars, Elden Ring, Skyrim, MTG, Exiled Kingdoms, RuneScape and probably dozens more RPG franchises.

I'll accept this too.

furrin_gok said:
My only guess would be that he though Malzeno was a character, not a species.

Yes the way the forum request was worded made me think it a character.

furrin_gok said:
The bulk update request #2948 is active.

remove implication gogmazios (12) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication fatalis (141) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication kirin_(mh) (162) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication lao-shan_lung (13) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication nakarkos (9) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication dire_miralis (14) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication shagaru_magala (98) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication teostra (134) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication kushala_daora (158) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication chameleos (74) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication yama_tsukami (2) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication jhen_mohran (5) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication dah'ren_mohran (4) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication alatreon (135) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication amatsu_(mh) (34) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication ceadeus (9) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication dalamadur (27) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication valstrax (107) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication xeno'jiiva (108) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication vaal_hazak (81) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication nergigante (805) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication kulve_taroth (560) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication zorah_magdaros (8) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication rukodiora (6) -> elder_dragon (2972)
remove implication elder_dragon (2972) -> monster_hunter (16139)

Reason: Guy's got a point.

Further BURing

unimply harudomerugu -> elder_dragon
unimply guanzorumu -> elder_dragon
unimply disufiroa -> elder_dragon
unimply shantien -> elder_dragon
unimply keoaruboru -> elder_dragon
unimply inagami -> elder_dragon
unimply eruzerion -> elder_dragon
unimply tartaronis -> elder_dragon
unimply merphistophelin -> elder_dragon
unimply nefu_garumodo -> elder_dragon
unimply morudomunto -> elder_dragon
unimply eo_garudia -> elder_dragon

Post BUR

imply gogmazios -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply fatalis -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply kirin_(mh) -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply lao-shan_lung -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply nakarkos -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply dire_miralis -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply shagaru_magala -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply teostra -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply kushala_daora -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply chameleos -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply yama_tsukami -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply jhen_mohran -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply dah'ren_mohran -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply alatreon -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply amatsu_(mh) -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply ceadeus -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply dalamadur -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply valstrax -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply xeno'jiiva -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply vaal_hazak -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply nergigante -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply kulve_taroth -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply zorah_magdaros -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply rukodiora -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply elder_dragon_(mh) -> monster_hunter

Further Post-BUR

imply harudomerugu -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply guanzorumu -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply disufiroa -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply shantien -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply keoaruboru -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply inagami -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply eruzerion -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply tartaronis -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply merphistophelin -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply nefu_garumodo -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply morudomunto -> elder_dragon_(mh)
imply eo_garudia -> elder_dragon_(mh)

Would've aliasing elder_dragon to elder_dragon_(mh) (through alias request), then un-aliasing it (through BUR) done the same, but with less steps?

waydence said:
Would've aliasing elder_dragon to elder_dragon_(mh) (through alias request), then un-aliasing it (through BUR) done the same, but with less steps?

Oh hey, I forgot to add in an update.

I don't like running stray alias requests, even if they supposedly update every single implication.

The tag implication malzeno -> elder_dragon (forum #340328) has been rejected by @gattonero2001.

The bulk update request #2948 (forum #341056) has been approved by @gattonero2001.