I was wondering if we should make an infidelity_(lore) tag for cases where characters have canonical exclusive partners but are having sex with other characters in an image, such as Kass from BotW often being shipped with characters other than his wife with few images featuring his wife for context. It would be nice to have this, at least to me, since it would broaden the scope of images to find that feature infidelity.

After hearing/seeing the horror stories of NTR tagging on E-Hentai and other sites, I'm going to sit this one out. :P

How would you determine infidelity from an open relationship? A married character having sex with someone other than their spouse doesn't necessarily mean they're cheating on their spouse. We have the cuckold tag for instances where it's more apparent they're being unfaithful.

watsit said:
How would you determine infidelity from an open relationship? A married character having sex with someone other than their spouse doesn't necessarily mean they're cheating on their spouse. We have the cuckold tag for instances where it's more apparent they're being unfaithful.

I would think if two characters are canonically married it could be assumed that they're in a closed relationship.

i'llkogyourmaw said:
I would think if two characters are canonically married it could be assumed that they're in a closed relationship.

I don't think that's a safe assumption, given how furries tend to be more open sexually. And in random fictional settings with fictional species, there's no reason to assume monogamy as the default.

watsit said:
How would you determine infidelity from an open relationship? A married character having sex with someone other than their spouse doesn't necessarily mean they're cheating on their spouse. We have the cuckold tag for instances where it's more apparent they're being unfaithful.

I mean, it is a lore tag, so it'd be based on what people know about the character as well as maybe what we can try to assume was the artist's intentions

darryus said:
I mean, it is a lore tag, so it'd be based on what people know about the character as well as maybe what we can try to assume was the artist's intentions

Although the given example, "such as Kass from BotW often being shipped with characters other than his wife", wouldn't apply then since Nintendo hasn't ever said what Rito marriage and sexual relationships are like (if anything, given how open their homes and their village are, they seem more open about things), and artists shipping Kass with Link and other characters aren't likely thinking he's being unfaithful.

i'llkogyourmaw said:
I would think if two characters are canonically married it could be assumed that they're in a closed relationship.

Even in real life, marriage is no guarantee of exclusivity. Not everyone holds to the rigid standard of Western JudeoChristian orthodoxy, which is hardly necessarily the best nor the most right, depending on the people involved.

Once upon a time, before inheritance laws changed and encouraged husbands to make sure their wives' children were indeed also theirs, a husband was often out getting the neighbor wives pregnant, but this was okay as the neighbor husbands were getting his wife pregnant. In the recent past, two or three married men would pool their resources and hire a woman to act as a mistress in their households, including sexual activities. The wives didn't mind partly because they weren't being neglected themselves and also because they were still the woman in charge. The hired also found it useful as training for when she'd move on to her own marriage.

The Western standard of "don't have sex outside of your marriage" was born not just out of the above-mentioned change in inheritance laws, but also a long-standing insistence of the Church and, later, Protestantism and other breakaway sects that men should be bored enough with their married lives that they'd have no choice but to sit around contemplating God and other religious devotions, which all went about as well as could be expected. This attitude spread about the world by the colonial powers of the Age of Exploration, often in toxic ways, displacing and destroying other marital philosophies at the point of a sword if necessary.

watsit said:
Although the given example, "such as Kass from BotW often being shipped with characters other than his wife", wouldn't apply then since Nintendo hasn't ever said what Rito marriage and sexual relationships are like (if anything, given how open their homes and their village are, they seem more open about things), and artists shipping Kass with Link and other characters aren't likely thinking he's being unfaithful.

yeah, Kass's probably not a great example to use since we don't really know much about the monogamy standards in his culture or his relationship specifically, but the tag probably still has a valid use with characters that we do know that about or for situations when infidelity is a theme but might not be shown directly in the post itself.

darryus said:
I mean, it is a lore tag, so it'd be based on what people know about the character as well as maybe what we can try to assume was the artist's intentions

Seconded, just like we can have lore tags for rape or child abuse even though cub dosent automatically get tagged as that despite how it would be irl. We can determine intention especially in comics where the character might not be exclaiming they're in an exclusive relationship but we know previously or with just with context clues.

Eg, post #3246159 and post #3197392

felvoex said:
Seconded, just like we can have lore tags for rape or child abuse even though cub dosent automatically get tagged as that despite how it would be irl. We can determine intention especially in comics where the character might not be exclaiming they're in an exclusive relationship but we know previously or with just with context clues.

Eg, post #3246159 and post #3197392

Blu and Jewel are a canon couple, and while Nick and Judy are not, the character's clearly stating that in that fanon, they are, so it would fit for that.

This being a lore tag is a terrible idea. There's always posts that need clean up because people just automatically add infidelity to images / animations where there's no mention, or hint of it within said image. Some user was even mass tagging infidelity on nsfw Princess Cadance posts. Their reasoning: "She isn't with Shining Armor in this." Damn near every image here could count as infidelity because lore, and it will ruin the main reason why people search infidelity. The tag should remain as is. Add it based on context within said image only.

cane751 said:
This being a lore tag is a terrible idea. There's always posts that need clean up because people just automatically add infidelity to images / animations where there's no mention, or hint of it within said image. Some user was even mass tagging infidelity on nsfw Princess Cadance posts. Their reasoning: "She isn't with Shining Armor in this." Damn near every image here could count as infidelity because lore, and it will ruin the main reason why people search infidelity. The tag should remain as is. Add it based on context within said image only.

we're not asking if we should turn the existing tag into a lore tag, the question is whether we should we have a lore tag version in addition to the general tag, similar to the gender and age lore tags.

darryus said:
we're not asking if we should turn the existing tag into a lore tag, the question is whether we should we have a lore tag version in addition to the general tag

Anything could count, and it wouldn't surprise me if users started tagging general + lore on posts.
Like that whole mess with moan and moaning in pleasure. No thanks.