Topic: [REJECTED] Tag implication: jerking_off_hand_motion -> suggestive_gesture

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

It should probably be aliased to wanking_gesture, since that is what the name implies, which is already implicated to suggestive_gesture.

edit: oh... nevermind lol. I actually looked at the tag. It's being used for many things including masturbation, handjobs, and various gestures. Should probably just clean it out by replacing it with the appropriate tags.

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For some reason, it is tagged on some actual handjob posts that are very much not gestures. After getting cleaned up, it can be aliased to wanking_gesture.

EDIT: Or what Shitposter said in the edit: just stick to manual cleanup with no alias. The tag is a mess.

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Replaced all of the tags except the ones that could be considered wanking_gesture just in case someone wants to alias it. If not just replace it.

I discovered handjob_gesture is also apparently a thing and it could also use a cleanup. It looks to largely be a mix of fellatio_gesture and wanking_gesture.

edit: and cleaned

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The bulk update request #4253 is pending approval.

remove implication wanking_gesture (4) -> suggestive_gesture (2572)
create alias jerking_off_hand_motion (0) -> handjob_gesture (240) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through BUR
create alias wanking_gesture (4) -> handjob_gesture (240) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through BUR
create implication handjob_gesture (240) -> suggestive_gesture (2572)

Reason: Suggestion to alias to wanking_gesture instead of implicate as these tags, based on their names, mean the same thing.
edit: I'm surprised it didn't just throw an error. I'm going to edit this as per the discussion here: https://e621.net/forum_topics/33514

These will need to be rejected for this suggestion to work:
https://e621.net/tag_aliases/57489
https://e621.net/tag_implications/50244

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Since a handjob is when a character is stimulating another character's penis, a general hand motion that may not be insinuating doing it to another character or themselves, "handjob_gesture" doesn't seem like a good tag name to me. "Wanking", while crude, I think works better for a motion that isn't specifically insinuating a handjob or masturbation.

Personally I don't really care either way which tag gets used. I only edited it that way because that other thread show opinion generally leaning towards wanking_gesture -> handjob_gesture and the reasoning for it is pretty solid: wanking being a slang term that is ultimately limited to a small portion of the world. Handjobs, on the other hand, are fairly universal.

Also: isn't wanking just slang for jerking off anyway? Never really heard of it being used the other way.
edit: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/wank

wank
verb [ I ] UK offensive
UK /wæŋk/ US /wæŋk/
to masturbate

wank
noun [ C usually singular ] UK offensive
UK /wæŋk/ US /wæŋk/
the act of masturbating:
to have a wank

It literally is lol

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shitposter said:
The bulk update request #4253 is pending approval.

remove implication wanking_gesture (4) -> suggestive_gesture (2572)
create alias jerking_off_hand_motion (0) -> handjob_gesture (240) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through BUR
create alias wanking_gesture (4) -> handjob_gesture (240) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through BUR
create implication handjob_gesture (240) -> suggestive_gesture (2572)

Reason: Suggestion to alias to wanking_gesture instead of implicate as these tags, based on their names, mean the same thing.
edit: I'm surprised it didn't just throw an error. I'm going to edit this as per the discussion here: https://e621.net/forum_topics/33514

These will need to be rejected for this suggestion to work:
https://e621.net/tag_aliases/57489
https://e621.net/tag_implications/50244

My issue with this is that the gesture seems to generally refer to the act of masturbation rather than hand sex - the term “wanking” refers to masturbation. Though, it could be either, so if we don’t keep “wanking,” I think a more neutral term would be required. I’m struggling to think of one that isn’t exceedingly unwieldy, though. Keeping “wanking” would be so much easier.

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