Topic: [APPROVED] Standardise Zelda Suffixes BUR

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #4319 is active.

create alias deadrock_(zelda) (0) -> deadrock_(tloz) (0)
create alias king_rhoam_(zelda) (0) -> king_rhoam_(tloz) (3)
create alias maple_(zelda) (0) -> maple_(tloz) (6)
create alias silva_(zelda) (0) -> silva_(tloz) (4)
create alias mila_(zelda) (0) -> mila_(tloz) (1)
create alias agitha_(zelda) (0) -> agitha_(tloz) (6)
create alias scarecrow_(zelda) (0) -> scarecrow_(tloz) (6)
create alias dimitri_(zelda) (0) -> dimitri_(tloz) (4)
create alias oren_(zelda) (0) -> oren_(tloz) (8)
create alias beedle_(zelda) (0) -> beedle_(tloz) (7)
create alias laflat_(zelda) (0) -> laflat_(tloz) (0)
create alias moon_(zelda) (0) -> moon_(tloz) (34)
create alias rosa_(zelda) (0) -> rosa_(tloz) (4)
create alias cree_(zelda) (0) -> cree_(tloz) (15)
create alias genli_(zelda) (0) -> genli_(tloz) (17)
create alias kheel_(zelda) (0) -> kheel_(tloz) (17)
create alias kotts_(zelda) (0) -> kotts_(tloz) (16)
create alias ricky_(zelda) (0) -> ricky_(tloz) (3)
create alias notts_(zelda) (0) -> notts_(tloz) (19)
create alias tulin_(zelda) (0) -> tulin_(tloz) (617)
create alias marin_(zelda) (0) -> marin_(tloz) (13)
create alias guardian_(zelda) (0) -> guardian_(tloz) (27)
create alias gekko_(zelda) (0) -> gekko_(tloz) (25)
create alias sale_(zelda) (0) -> sale_(tloz) (28)
create alias keaton_(zelda) (0) -> keaton_(tloz) (61)

Reason: Judging by the following search results, it looks like we have settled on *_(tloz) as the canonical suffix for characters, species and other concepts from the Legend of Zelda series:

https://e621.net/tags?commit=Search&search%5Bhide_empty%5D=1&search%5Bname_matches%5D=%2A_%28tloz%29%2A&search%5Border%5D=count
https://e621.net/tags?commit=Search&search%5Bhide_empty%5D=1&search%5Bname_matches%5D=%2A_%28zelda%29%2A&search%5Border%5D=count
https://e621.net/tags?commit=Search&search%5Bhide_empty%5D=1&search%5Bname_matches%5D=%2A_%28legend_of_zelda%29%2A&search%5Border%5D=count
https://e621.net/tags?commit=Search&search%5Bhide_empty%5D=1&search%5Bname_matches%5D=%2A_%28the_legend_of_zelda%29%2A&search%5Border%5D=count

This small series of BURs will update all the currently used tags from the other forms.

*_(zelda)

is by far the most popular, with 50 tags in all. The most numerous of these, keaton_(zelda), came into being only last week (following the invalidation of the base keaton tag). I am not considering implications within the scope of this thread to keep it to a mostly-manageable size - other people can propose them if desired. (There are quite a few pending Zelda BURs, too.)

This first part contains the more popular half of the *_(zelda) tags.

EDIT: The bulk update request #4319 (forum #359619) has been approved by @gattonero2001.

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The bulk update request #4320 is active.

create alias ashai_(zelda) (0) -> ashai_(tloz) (0)
create alias bully_(zelda) (0) -> bully_(tloz) (0)
create alias cole_(zelda) (0) -> cole_(tloz) (0)
create alias evan_(zelda) (0) -> evan_(tloz) (0)
create alias facade_(zelda) (0) -> facade_(tloz) (0)
create alias fairy_(zelda) (0) -> fairy_(tloz) (6)
create alias gonzo_(zelda) (0) -> gonzo_(tloz) (0)
create alias greta_(zelda) (0) -> greta_(tloz) (0)
create alias hudson_(zelda) (0) -> hudson_(tloz) (1)
create alias kortz_(zelda) (0) -> kortz_(tloz) (2)
create alias loone_(zelda) (0) -> loone_(tloz) (1)
create alias molli_(zelda) (0) -> molli_(tloz) (3)
create alias phantom_(zelda) (0) -> phantom_(tloz) (0)
create alias quill_(zelda) (0) -> quill_(tloz) (0)
create alias ralph_(zelda) (0) -> ralph_(tloz) (1)
create alias rhondson_(zelda) (0) -> rhondson_(tloz) (1)
create alias the_nightmare_(zelda) (0) -> the_nightmare_(tloz) (1)
create alias torfeau_(zelda) (0) -> torfeau_(tloz) (0)
create alias zuko_(zelda) (0) -> zuko_(tloz) (1)
create alias bit_(zelda) (0) -> bit_(tloz) (0)
create alias bot_(zelda) (0) -> bot_(tloz) (0)
create alias iron_knuckle_(zelda) (0) -> iron_knuckle_(tloz) (0)
create alias monkey_(zelda) (0) -> monkey_(tloz) (0)
create alias niko_(zelda) (0) -> niko_(tloz) (1)
create alias robbie_(zelda) (0) -> robbie_(tloz) (0)

Reason: The rest of the *_(zelda) tags. Currently, none of these have more than 2 posts each.

EDIT: The bulk update request #4320 (forum #359620) has been approved by @gattonero2001.

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The bulk update request #4321 is active.

create alias zazak_(legend_of_zelda) (0) -> zazak_(tloz) (1)
create alias christine_(the_legend_of_zelda) (0) -> christine_(tloz) (5)
create alias kiki_(the_legend_of_zelda) (0) -> kiki_(tloz) (0)
create alias old_man_(the_legend_of_zelda) (0) -> old_man_(tloz) (0)
create alias bubble_(the_legend_of_zelda) (0) -> bubble_(tloz) (0)
create alias fi_(legend_of_zelda) (0) -> fi_(tloz) (60)
create alias amy_(loz) (0) -> amy_(tloz) (1)
create alias beth_(loz) (0) -> beth_(tloz) (0)
create alias meg_(loz) (0) -> meg_(tloz) (1)
create alias joelle_(loz) (0) -> joelle_(tloz) (1)
create alias death_sword_(loz) (0) -> death_sword_(tloz) (0)
create alias koko_(botw) (0) -> koko_(tloz) (1)
create alias finley_(botw) (0) -> finley_(tloz) (4)
create alias remote_bomb_(botw) (0) -> remote_bomb_(tloz) (0)
create alias mija_(botw) (0) -> mija_(tloz) (3)
create alias mei_(botw) (0) -> mei_(tloz) (1)

Reason: Other tag formats. As far as I can tell, the "old man" here is the one who utters the series' most famous catchphrase at the start of the first game, although there's probably still a better name for that.

Fi deserves a special mention, which I will split out into a fourth request.

EDIT: Added *_(loz) and *_(botw) tags.

EDIT: The bulk update request #4321 (forum #359621) has been approved by @gattonero2001.

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The bulk update request #4322 is active.

mass update fi -> fi_(tloz)
change category fi (0) -> invalid

Reason: TL;DR: Two letter tags bad.

fi is an extremely problematic name for a canonical tag, as can be seen by looking at the removal log. Currently, all posts tagged fi are also tagged the_legend_of_zelda, but only because I removed post #2337416 and post #2533666 first. Both of those posts were tagged "sci fi", which seems to be the most common mistake, but every tag that short has a track record of being added by fat fingers alone.

EDIT: The bulk update request #4322 (forum #359623) has been approved by @gattonero2001.

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strikerman said:
...Dumb question, why don't we use that as the base suffix then?

Because all the tags with implications, and with more than 50 posts, end *_(tloz).

strikerman said:
There's also (loz) and (botw)

Added to the third BUR, except for "dragmire_(botw)", which appears to be a name invented out of whole cloth by some random tagger 4 years ago. That name appears nowhere in BOTW, the wiki says it's only ever appeared in manuals for previous games, and it isn't even mentioned in the source. I retagged its one post with giant_horse_(tloz).

Updated

The bulk update request #4858 is active.

create alias link_(breath_of_the_wild) (0) -> link (6538)
create alias zelda_(breath_of_the_wild) (0) -> princess_zelda (3718)
create alias spirit_orb_(breath_of_the_wild) (0) -> spirit_orb_(tloz) (0)
create alias koyin_(breath_of_the_wild) (0) -> koyin_(tloz) (0)
create alias breath_of_the_wild_2 (0) -> tears_of_the_kingdom (2942)
create alias ganondorf_(tears_of_the_kingdom) (0) -> ganondorf (778)
create alias gloom_hands_(tears_of_the_kingdom) (0) -> gloom_hands_(tloz) (0)
create alias sonia_(tears_of_the_kingdom) (0) -> sonia_(tloz) (63)

Reason: Found some more. Plus post-TotK updates.

The rauru and rauru_(tears_of_the_kingdom) tags are better handled by topic #38482.

While we're here, could someone go over all those previous BURs and correct all the tag counts? It's ridiculous that tags like king_rhoam_(tloz) are still showing up as having 0 posts.

EDIT: The bulk update request #4858 (forum #366295) has been approved by @gattonero2001.

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