Topic: Breath

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #4683 is pending approval.

create alias breath_clouds (0) -> breath_cloud (9)
create implication breath_cloud (9) -> breath (60634)
create implication gasp (1923) -> breath (60634)
create implication sigh (2184) -> breath (60634)
create implication snort (354) -> breath (60634)
create implication wheeze (105) -> breath (60634)
create implication sniffing (13993) -> breath (60634)
create implication sniffling (85) -> breath (60634)

Reason: BUReath.

Watsit

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romanicyte2 said:
create implication snort (159) -> breath (41418)
create implication sniffing (8450) -> breath (41418)
create implication sniffling (57) -> breath (41418)

I don't think these really qualify for "breath". I'd think actually breath_cloud and breath should be aliased together, since some kind of cloud is how breath is depicted. The tag isn't "breathing", but a visible depiction of breath.

romanicyte2 said:
create implication gasp -> breath
create implication sigh -> breath
create implication snort -> breath
create implication wheeze -> breath
create implication sniffing -> breath
create implication sniffling -> breath

watsit said:
I don't think these really qualify for "breath". I'd think actually breath_cloud and breath should be aliased together, since some kind of cloud is how breath is depicted. The tag isn't "breathing", but a visible depiction of breath.

I think I agree some with Watsit. Breaths are typically depicted coming out of the mouth, although, when we breathe, air can come out of either the mouth, the nose, or both. So, arguably, when we refer to breath, we're talking about air being exhaled from the mouth.

A snort is less breathing and more making a sound in the back of your nasal cavity. Furthermore, you don't necessarily have to be inhaling or exhaling to snort. In some cases, it does make sense, such as with stereotypical depictions of a snorting bull, but if there's no breath clouds coming out of the nostrils, how does one know the character is exhaling?

Sniffing is a specific action of getting scents into the nose and less about actual breathing. It could technically be including breathing, but air is going in so we wouldn't be seeing the breath. The flehmen response might be closer, but that's also not about getting air into or out of the lungs and more getting scent to the Jacobson's organ in the mouth. The visible breath would come after the sniffing, not during.

Sniffling is arguably being unable to breathe due to a clogged nose, sort of like the antithesis to breath.

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Gasping... maybe. That probably depends on exactly how you gasp. A sudden intake of air due to surprise or shock is different from struggling to breathe when winded from exercise. I can see an implication might work there for the latter one, which is closer to wheezing anyway (see below), but the former is mostly pulling breath from the mouth into the nasal cavity, not the lungs.

Sighing and wheezing, on the other hand, I can go for the implication. In both cases, a lot of air is being specifically exhaled from the lungs in a way to make noise. Both are often depicted with breath clouds, so I'd have to say that the implication makes sense.

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