The bulk update request #4756 is pending approval.

change category letterbox (16290) -> meta
change category border (95990) -> meta

Reason: pillarbox is already meta.

I don't think these should be meta, since they are a thing in the image. It'd be like making censor_bar meta.

romanicyte2 said:
The bulk update request #4756 is pending approval.

change category letterbox (16290) -> meta
change category border (95990) -> meta

Reason: pillarbox is already meta.

Isn't a letterbox this?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=letterbox

I reckon this needs to be moved to letterbox_view before I ever support this.

wolfmanfur said:
Isn't a letterbox this?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=letterbox

A letterbox is when you have a blank line at the top and bottom of the image. It typically happens when you need to fit an image into a canvas of a different ratio, while leaving the original aspect ratio alone (e.g. a 16:9 image in a 4:3 window, without vertical stretching). With most artwork, it's done for effect, and an artist may put a watermark, signature, or other info in the space (like post #4014350), making it not truly blank. It can also be used to create a pop-out effect, to make it seem like certain elements of the image are coming out of the image (like post #2428609).

It also seems Pup 's tagbot is... very liberally applying it to images that happen to have a solid color at the top and bottom of the image, irrespective of the context. Like
post #4019423
which has a black border around each comic panel, resulting in a line at the top and bottom of the image but is not letterbox. Or
post #3963383
which has a solid white color for most of the background, which gets interpreted as having a solid white line at the top and bottom, and is definitely not letterbox.

watsit said:
I don't think these should be meta, since they are a thing in the image. It'd be like making censor_bar meta.

I feel like this is less a thing inside the image (like a censor bar is) and more a description of the format of the image. Other tags denoting the format of an image are in the meta category as well, ie. comic, multiple_images, all the aspect ratio tags, and animated.

That said, changing the names to letterboxed, pillarboxed, and bordered would be more in line with this format, thus describing the an aspect of the image itself rather than an object within an image.

To add to that, I wonder if a letterbox seen within an image, but not applied to the image itself would have received the letterbox tag (eg. a character holding a letterboxed photo, or a letterboxed movie playing on a television screen in the background). The wiki makes me think not, but leaving it as letterbox and in the general category would imply that it would be a valid use of the tag, whereas putting it in meta and changing the name to letterboxed would imply instead that it should only describe the image itself.

TL;DR: proposal to change the tag names to letterboxed, pillarboxed, and bordered in addition to moving all three to the meta category.