The bulk update request #4843 is pending approval.

create alias hyper_expansion (13) -> hyper_belly (15564)
create alias hyper_inflation (2145) -> hyper_belly (15564) # duplicate of has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through bur
create alias extreme_inflation (77) -> hyper_belly (15564)

Reason: First off, hyper_inflation and hyper_expansion are not quantifiable, what makes an inflation hyper? Really, what does? What rules are there for an inflation to be hyper?maybe more gas must be delivered into a character, or maybe the tank must have an excessive amount of gas, or or maybe excessive_cum works to make it into a hyper_inflation?. This is explained nowhere, especially not on the hyper_inflation wiki and hyper_expansion does not have a wiki to begin with. The way I understand it is, hyper_inflation is a mixture of inflation + hyper_belly and hyper_expansion is a mixture of expansion + hyper_belly, why not simply tag all these posts inflation/expansion and hyper_belly instead?

And, to tell you how silly these tags are, it would be like making a hyper_foot_fetish tag, an extreme_foot_fetish tag, a hyper_vore tag, an extreme_vore tag or a hyper_flattened tag. They don't exist, so why should hyper_inflation and hyper_expansion exist? Using the logic of hyper_inflation, we could make it so hyper_foot_fetish is a mixture of foot_fetish + hyper_feet. After all, Why not? However, I guess it's never been made because folks who tag foot_fetish know to tag hyper_feet when needed instead of making-up a whole new tag with barely any guideline on how to use.

Then, these tags are not official recognised on the hyper wiki. They're mentioned nowhere, and to top it off, they are not implied to hyper which all other hyper tags are. Why should it even be implicated ro hyper since hyper_belly is implicated to it and if folks tagged hyper_inflation with hyper_belly together correctly, the implication wouldn't be needed.

Finally, this is yet another tag that can be misused or mistagged. If we assume that hyper_inflation = hyper_belly + inflation then there are a couple of posts thatdon't fit the criterion that have been tagged with it.
post #4065261 post #4019261
Recently, I had to remove it twice because it was added incorrectly to 2 different posts by the same user, (Granted, they've received 2 records already for using the wrong tags and they have antecedents of tagging incorrectly dating all the way back from 2017, possibly even earlier (the fact it took until 2023 to get noticed by an admin for the first time is crazy).) but if we take a look into the history of the tag, it gets misused, it gets mistagged and folks dont seem to know when to tag it with the rules set above, I will now post the tag history here : https://e621.net/post_versions?commit=Search&search%5Bexclude_uploads%5D=0&search%5Btags_removed%5D=hyper_inflation
alos, there are a couple of times where hyper_belly without inflation would have been a better fit a post, but it's been tagged hyper_inflation regardless, and a few more posts that should have had the inflation tag are missing it: hyper_inflation -inflation -hyper_belly hyper_inflation -hyper_belly hyper_inflation -inflation
I could fix that right now, right there, but this is only going to keep happening by allowing hyper_inflation to stay untouched, and I don't think any maintainer wants to deal with this.

Then, there is this issue that another furry brought up :

I'm really on the fence about this one, the wiki page for hyper says the tag is for when a part of a characters anatomy is unrealistically large, but I'm honestly not sure if a gape would count as part of a character's anatomy. It is a physical part of the character, but something about grouping it with the rest of the anatomy feels not quite right, I can't really put my finger on it.

This is particularly one reason why I feel so strongly about these tags. Although, we could make the implication hyper_inflation -> hyper, it would be wrong. Hyper already shows on a good number of posts and hyper_belly does implicate it, so using that instead would have no negative consequences or repercussions on tagging what-so-ever.

Another problem I wanna address because I know some folks will oppose the bur on that alone, so before anybody asks why am I aliasing to hyper_belly specifically and not the respective tag they imply? that's because they most likely have already been tagged. If some folks tag hyper_inflation, they would likely tag inflation too or the post has already been tagged inflation beforehand and they wanna add hyper_inflation to it. Folks who wanna tag hyper_inflation should familiarize themselves with the hyper_belly tag which I hope would happen if this gets recommended to them and the only i would see this being suggested to them is through an alias.

So, in conclusion, hyper_inflation is :

• either redundant (hyper_belly + inflation) or not quantifiable (Compare it to hyper_cum and hyper_fart which ARE quantifiable)
• used incorrectly and salting it means folks will have one fewer tag they can misuse on posts
• not implied to hyper
• not worth implying to hyper either due to the assumption that all posts with this tag should have hyper_belly
• not mentioned on the wiki for hyper
• not a part of the body
• other fetish tags like vore and foot_fetish dont have a hyper_* variant, let alone an extreme_* variant

In addition to all the above, hyper_expansion has only a measly 8 posts. it's a small insignificant tag that nobody will ever use. If I had aliased hyper_expansion to hyper_belly alone, I am certain nobody would care and just upvote the alias request without asking any question. I am sure I wouldn't even have to explain why it's problematic.

Related threads:
https://e621.net/forum_topics/38253 - The very first time I brought up the issue.
https://e621.net/forum_topics/38514 - An unrelated bur made by somebody else, originally hyper_gape was meant to be implicated to gaping, but I suggested them to use extreme_gaping instead. They agreed and said:

What is currently called hyper_gape is arguably not a true form of hyper, since a gape itself isn’t a body part (or expelled substance, according to the wiki). *_gaping rather than *_gape is also more consistent with other gaping tags.

At best, these tag need to be delegated to a set. Thats what sets are made for!

Last minute update: Added extreme_inflation to the butcher list.

Now, I was going to include hyper_cum -> excessive_cum on it because both tags are tagged on similar posts, they each do have a different meaning on their respective wikis, but I see hyper_cum tagged on things where the amount of cum is still within reason although a little bit too much not to be excessive post #4044223 post #3957159 post #3964265 but Alphamule convinced me otherwise, somewhat. Hyper_cum is undertagged as well, on posts where it should be, there is excessive_cum instead and only excessive_cum. Hyper_cum could be useful as a standalone tag, but as it currently stand its bad. It's practically the same in meaning with excessive_cum which I prefer tagging anyway since cum is not a body part.
I'm gonna leave it aside for now and will make a secondary bur for it later if needed.