The bulk update request #5044 is active.

create implication thai_audio (0) -> sound (40327)
create implication swedish_audio (0) -> sound (40327)
create implication russian_audio (6) -> sound (40327)
create implication portuguese_audio (4) -> sound (40327)
create implication polish_audio (1) -> sound (40327)
create implication norwegian_audio (0) -> sound (40327)
create implication latin_audio (1) -> sound (40327)
create implication italian_audio (0) -> sound (40327)
create implication danish_audio (0) -> sound (40327)
create implication arabic_audio (0) -> sound (40327)

Reason: Any Language Audio tags have audio, and audio is sound.
Also, English_audio implies sound so makes sense to keep the different language audio tags consistent.

EDIT: The bulk update request #5044 (forum #368240) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

This would be superfluous if the other BUR passes, voice_acted already implies sound.

sipothac said:
This would be superfluous if the other BUR passes, voice_acted already implies sound.

You can have english_audio without any actual voice acting, such as the use of a song or archive audio of, say, a news recording.

alien_fluff said:
You can have english_audio without any actual voice acting, such as the use of a song or archive audio of, say, a news recording.

hmm... I feel like we should categorize any voice as the same, I don't know if it makes sense to separate it. the voice_acted tag should honestly just function more or less identical to the text tag but for vocal recordings, regardless of the context.

like, spoken_text isn't counted as a different thing from written_text in image posts, it's all just text. there is dialogue, but that's not strictly a text thing, it applies to nearly any method a character can communicate that can be understood by the viewer.

darryus said:
hmm... I feel like we should categorize any voice as the same, I don't know if it makes sense to separate it. the voice_acted tag should honestly just function more or less identical to the text tag but for vocal recordings, regardless of the context.

like, spoken_text isn't counted as a different thing from written_text in image posts, it's all just text. there is dialogue, but that's not strictly a text thing, it applies to nearly any method a character can communicate that can be understood by the viewer.

Presently, voice_acted is used both for voice noises, and communications. So if we have a post of someone coughing audibly and a post of someone talking audibly both are tagged with voice_acted. So English_audio is just specifically the language or communications part which the tag voice_acted already encompasses.

darryus said:
the voice_acted tag should honestly just function more or less identical to the text tag but for vocal recordings, regardless of the context.

It should be renamed if it goes that route, to something like voiced. Voice acting is acting with one's voice, so wouldn't cover non-acting voice work.

But even then, I don't think implications for <language>_audio -> voiced would work. I remember bringing this up before, but I'm not entirely happy with the <language>_audio set of tags because it only implies regional audio tracks. This would be japanese_audio (being the original Japanese audio track of the song), while this would be english_audio (being the English dubbed audio track of that song), neither containing any vocal performances (singing, acting, or other).

watsit said:
It should be renamed if it goes that route, to something like voiced. Voice acting is acting with one's voice, so wouldn't cover non-acting voice work.

But even then, I don't think implications for <language>_audio -> voiced would work. I remember bringing this up before, but I'm not entirely happy with the <language>_audio set of tags because it only implies regional audio tracks. This would be japanese_audio (being the original Japanese audio track of the song), while this would be english_audio (being the English dubbed audio track of that song), neither containing any vocal performances (singing, acting, or other).

But thinking of it like that implies each language only belongs to one country. English is spoken in The United States, Canada, Ireland, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand, to name the big ones, and voiced english audio from any of those places or from any other place would be "english_audio".

The bulk update request #5044 (forum #368240) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.