Topic: BUR to fix an individuals terrible tagging part 3 (25 entry limit)

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #5188 is pending approval.

create alias feral_in_jockstrap (2) -> jockstrap (19067)
create alias feral_initiating (6) -> feral (619522)
create alias feral_on_dragoncopode (5) -> feral (619522)
create alias feral_on_non-humanoid_creature (1) -> feral (619522)
create alias feral_on_non-humanoid_machine (5) -> feral (619522)
create alias feral_on_split_form (1) -> feral (619522)
create alias feral_on_tail (1) -> feral (619522)
create alias feral_only (16) -> feral (619522)
create alias feral_penetrating_ambiguous (16) -> ambiguous_on_feral (278)
create alias feral_penetrating_andromorph (30) -> andromorph_on_feral (90)
create alias feral_penetrating_dragoncopode (5) -> feral_penetrating (48309)
create alias feral_penetrating_gynomorph (44) -> gynomorph_on_feral (739)
create alias feral_penetrating_herm (8) -> herm_on_feral (94)
create alias feral_penetrating_maleherm (0) -> maleherm_on_feral (11)
create alias feral_penetrating_semi-anthro (0) -> feral_penetrating (48309)
create alias feral_raping_anthro (36) -> anthro_on_feral (32072)
create alias feral_raping_feral (75) -> feral_on_feral (46627)
create alias feral_raping_human (35) -> human_on_feral (41811)
create alias feral_replacement_limb (125) -> feral_prosthetic_limb (0)
create alias feral_rimming_anthro (18) -> anthro_on_feral (32072)
create alias feral_rimming_feral (35) -> feral_on_feral (46627)
create alias feral_rimming_human (126) -> human_on_feral (41811)
create alias feral_rimming (41) -> rimming (29754)
create alias feral_sheep (0) -> feral (619522)

Reason: Mods told me "Approved: The best way to resolve all of these would be to submit a Bulk Update Request on the forum, and request mass deletion of these. That way the community can have involvement, and items can be added or subtracted from the list."

I didn't even know that was a thing, and I have no idea if I'm doing this right at all even with reading the wiki page but here is my shot at this.

My issue was user 449843, currently named Garbagios, is making up a shit ton of redundant tags and the only person using any of these tags seems to be them. The tags aren't helping anyone find anything, especially when all they're doing is adding half a dozen tags to a single image that all mean younger_penetrated. Then another dozen tags to the same image to add male and female versions of a bunch of other tags. Some of these would technically alias a couple things since all of their tagging is simply combining other tags together for no reason, but I'm not sure if I can make multiple aliases with a BUR. They are also tagging a bunch of non evolved pokemon as young and cub even though some of these posts have gone SIXTEEN YEARS without the tags. They seem to be changing tags to fit their own view of things. I don't think the BUR can fix them tagging pokemon wrong so I was kinda hoping there was an undo all on their tagging and users can fix the relatively minor decent tagging they have done while the BUR prevents them from making up more redundant tags. About half of the tags in this list they are using, the rest showed up in tag search and look absolutely useless or so few people use them they aren't doing anything other than clutter up the tags, so we might as well get rid of them/fix them. I opened this can of worms, might as well see it through. Some might be better as implications than aliases but I'd rather see what other people think first. I prefer a cleaner tag list than a bunch tags that are so specific that while yes, that is technically in this image, but no one will ever search for that so why add the tag.

There is also some other minor tag fixes along this line of reasoning. Adult_on_cub has 5.4k posts but adult_on_young only has 1.4k. Shouldn't it be adult_on_young, since all cub is young, but not all young is cub, and you can just search that and cub to get the results you want?

cub_receiving - I saw this and said, "What the hell does that mean?" Receiving what? If you go up to someone and tell them your receiving and leave it at that they're going to stare at you like your crazy because that doesn't mean anything on its own. A cub receiving oral says the tag page. Then cub and oral. Why make up another tag for this? And there's a hell of a lot more than 234 posts of cubs receiving oral so either there's a better tag or this should just go

older_on_XYZ - Just need to go. We have older_male, older_female, young/cub/baby etc. These tags are too general to be useful for searching. Just adds clutter to the tags

younger_feral - implies a bunch of other younger tags exist, such as younger_anthro, but they aren't in use.

feral_penetrating_XYZ. Human, anthro, feral, humanoid are being used a lot, but compared to the number of images tagged feral_penetrating, people dont seem to be using feral_penetrating_(male/female/gyno/andro/herm) nearly as much. Feral_penetrating_gynomorph has 15 images while feral_penetrating + gynomorph has 933. If thats what your looking for using the more specific tag is useless if everyone doesn't use it

The more I look into tags the more I see that need fixed so I'm just going to have to stop adding tags here.

Wiki page says errors should just be removed and added to the forum post so here they are. Also says 25 entries max so this is going to have to get split up.

Watsit

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bloodreaver01 said:
create alias feral_penetrating_ambiguous (8) -> feral_penetrating (38736)
create alias feral_penetrating_andromorph (15) -> feral_penetrating (38736)
create alias feral_penetrating_dragoncopode (5) -> feral_penetrating (38736)
create alias feral_penetrating_gynomorph (17) -> feral_penetrating (38736)
create alias feral_penetrating_herm (5) -> feral_penetrating (38736)
create alias feral_penetrating_maleherm (1) -> feral_penetrating (38736)
create alias feral_raping_anthro (5) -> rape (40360)
create alias feral_raping_feral (13) -> rape (40360)
create alias feral_raping_human (6) -> rape (40360)
create alias feral_rimming_anthro (5) -> rimming (22634)
create alias feral_rimming_feral (9) -> rimming (22634)
create alias feral_rimming_human (1) -> rimming (22634)

These might be better aliased to the various x_on_feral or feral_on_x tags. The <gender>_on_feral tags are helpful for finding posts where a non-feral <gender> is sexually interacting with a feral, and a lot of people seem to just tag the <gender>_<verbing>_<form>/<form>_<verbing>_<gender> tags and not the more general and useful <gender>_on_<form> tags.

watsit said:
These might be better aliased to the various x_on_feral or feral_on_x tags. The <gender>_on_feral tags are helpful for finding posts where a non-feral <gender> is sexually interacting with a feral, and a lot of people seem to just tag the <gender>_<verbing>_<form>/<form>_<verbing>_<gender> tags and not the more general and useful <gender>_on_<form> tags.

Fixed. Thank you for the advice!
Dragoncopode has to go though

Watsit

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bloodreaver01 said:
Fixed. Thank you for the advice!
Dragoncopode has to go though

Right, I missed taking that one out in my reply.

bloodreaver01 said:
create alias feral_penetrating_andromorph (15) -> intersex_on_feral (883)
create alias feral_penetrating_gynomorph (17) -> intersex_on_feral (883)
create alias feral_penetrating_herm (5) -> intersex_on_feral (883)
create alias feral_penetrating_maleherm (1) -> intersex_on_feral (883)

These should target the specific intersex types: andromorph_on_feral, gynomorph_on_feral, etc (which already implicate intersex_on_feral).

Watsit

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bloodreaver01 said:
create alias feral_penetrating_semi-anthro (4) -> semi-anthro_on_feral (10)

This would be better aliased to feral_penetrating. semi-anthro is a supplemental tag to anthro or feral, like how girly is a supplemental tag to male, and supplemental tags don't get their own compound entry like that (like how we don't tag girly_on_male, we shouldn't tag semi-anthro_on_feral).

watsit said:
This would be better aliased to feral_penetrating. semi-anthro is a supplemental tag to anthro or feral, like how girly is a supplemental tag to male, and supplemental tags don't get their own compound entry like that (like how we don't tag girly_on_male, we shouldn't tag semi-anthro_on_feral).

Makes sense, fixed. Semi-anthro_on_feral can only be aliased to feral since semi-anthro_on_feral doesn't imply who is doing the penetrating. This page already is already at the 25/25 limit so I'll add it to one of the subsequent pages.

Older details before editing this post on 20230917:

https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_on_dragoncopode+-dragoncopode Added that species tag. Might have been better to make it -> dragoncopode... It feels like it's almost always better to alias the more specific tag for species-related ones.
https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_on_dragoncopode+-draconcopode Oh hell, it was a typo. XD Done.

https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_in_jockstrap+-clothed_feral Done.

Feral initiating: "Denotes when a feral character is the initiating member of a sexual encounter." There's already a tag for that. Also, [[inviting*] needs a look... sigh.
https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_initiating+-inviting Blanking out on the tag that means the opposite of invitation, but got the rest of those. post #3259131 post #2990618 post #2283567 post #1971986 These all need tagging.

https://e621.net/tags?search%5Bname_matches%5D=feral_on_non-* Whut? These 2 are some odd tag names. The more general term should have been robot but meh, that's not the only thing wrong with using an feral_on* tag on these posts.
https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_on_non-humanoid_machine+-orb_robot 0 results - done. https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral+orb_robot Seems to make more sense.

post #75564 and post #86856 are obviously flora_fauna, and if one wanted to make images like this more searchable, one could either looking for both of those species (a pain sometimes because you can't know them all), or having a tag specific to species similar to that. But flora_fauna is pretty much that except not applying to just vine creatures. Hmm, wonder what happens if I search for flora_fauna and vine* tags. *tests* ;) Well, what do you know ? Yeah, this one is done as well.

Feral only, yet all but one of them is also solo. Bro, why? Yeah, -anthro -humanoid -human and feral_on_feral exist so the last one is findable as well. Done.

https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral+lying_on_tail Done. Yet another one that I only had to check if searchable - no tagging required - yay!
I admit that I actually had to look up the split form tag. i.e. Lamia, Mermaids, etc. Done. marine_split_form is interesting. I wonder if it would be better to implicate split_form, or tag marine and split_form, instead. I'll test if we get a bunch of unrelated results when using split (heh) tags. So, results here: https://e621.net/posts?tags=marine+split_form+-merfolk+-draconcopode 103 results isn't very many. I'll leave this up to another time to worry about. Anyways, feral_on_split_form is done. larger split form has only 1 result. Split form tags probably need a cleanup.

feral_penetrating_* Done
If they weren't so horribly rare, these might even make sense. As it is, feral_penetrating_* tags look kind of pointless. So the idea is to make sure that feral_penetrating, *_penetrated, feral, anthro/feral/etc., feral_on_* tags are all on the correct posts, right? I feel a lot of recursion in this BUR. XD
There are few results that don't have the form-specific feral_penetrating tags, so I can see why this was in the BUR. Semi-anthro_penetrated might need revisiting in the future but for now there's so few results that it doesn't seem useful to have a feral_penetrating_semi-anthro tag. I just made sure that they all showed up in the split-tag search.
fph1 fph2 Done
fpg1 fpg2 Done
fpd1 fpd2 Done
fpam1 fpam2 Done
fpan1 fpan2 Done

feral_rap* Done
The feral rape tag seems like it might be general enough, compared to the others that you can just search for you guess it feral_rape and feral_on_X. Oops, victim, not perpetrator. That logic might still apply, though. Both of these conflict with it because of the after_rape tag: post #200176 post #1526688
1 Conflict 2 Done 3 Done 4 Done 5 6 7 8 Last 4 searches need some review.
https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_raping_feral+-feral Done https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_raping_feral+-rape Done https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_raping_feral+-feral_raped Done https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_raping_feral+-feral_rape Done
https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_raping_anthro+-feral Done https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_raping_anthro+-anthro Done https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_raping_feral+-feral_rape Done https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_raping_anthro+-anthro_raped Done https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_raping_anthro+-feral_on_anthro Done

https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_replacement_limb+-feral_prosthetic* In progress... Wait, do they mean a prosthetic that IS a feral limb, or a prosthetic ON a feral? ABORT ABORT ABORT! Yeah, gonna need some clarification here.
https://e621.net/posts?tags=feral_replacement_limb+-prosthetic* Not started

feral_rimm* Done
https://e621.net/posts?tags=rimming+feral_penetrating and https://e621.net/posts?tags=rimming+feral_penetrated seem to apply as more general tags for feral_rimming/feral_rimmed. Might want to look at all *rimm* tags.

feral_sheep Done

https://e621.net/posts?tags=male_on_feral+feral_on_feral I don't want to contribute to this mess, even by accident. XD
Other than the issues like imminent_rape and after_rape, all but the prosthetics ones seem done.

feral_in_jockstrap -clothed_feral
feral_initiating -inviting
feral_on_dragoncopode -draconcopode
feral_on_non-humanoid_creature -flora_fauna
feral_on_non-humanoid_machine -orb_robot
feral_on_split_form -split_form
feral_on_tail -on_tail
feral_only solo -feral/feral_only duo -feral_on_feral/feral_only -duo -solo
feral_penetrating_ambiguous -feral_penetrating/feral_penetrating_ambiguous -ambiguous_penetrated/feral_penetrating_ambiguous -ambiguous_on_feral
feral_penetrating_andromorph -feral_penetrating/feral_penetrating_andromorph -andromorph_penetrated/feral_penetrating_andromorph -andromorph_on_feral
feral_penetrating_dragoncopode -draconcopode_penetrated
feral_penetrating_gynomorph -gynomorph_penetrated/feral_penetrating_gynomorph -feral_penetrating/feral_penetrating_gynomorph -gynomorph_on_feral
feral_penetrating_herm -feral_penetrating/feral_penetrating_herm -herm_penetrated/feral_penetrating_herm -herm_on_feral
feral_penetrating_maleherm -maleherm_penetrated/feral_penetrating_maleherm -feral_penetrating/feral_penetrating_maleherm -maleherm_on_feral
feral_penetrating_semi-anthro -feral_penetrating/feral_penetrating_semi-anthro -semi-anthro/feral_penetrating_semi-anthro -semi-anthro_penetrated/feral_penetrating_semi-anthro -semi-anthro_on_feral
feral_raping_anthro -anthro_raped/feral_raping_anthro -feral_rape/feral_raping_anthro -anthro_on_feral
feral_raping_feral -feral_rape/feral_raping_feral -feral_raped/feral_raping_feral -feral_on_feral
feral_raping_human -human_raped/feral_raping_human -feral_rape Note that human_on_feral implies feral and human, and *_rape* implies rape.
"feral_replacement_limb (69) -> feral_prosthetic_limb (1)" Implies feral and prosthetic limb.
feral_rimming_anthro -rimming Note that anthro_on_feral implies anthro and feral.
feral_rimming_feral -rimming
feral_rimming_human -rimming Note that human_on_feral implies feral and human.
feral_rimming -feral/feral_rimming -rimming
feral_rimming* -rimming
feral_sheep -sheep

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