Topic: What things do you think are improperly tagged?

Posted under General

Are there things you keep running into despite blacklisting all related tags? Or things that fill tags you ARE searching for even though they shouldn't? What are they, and why do you think they get mistagged so much?

Personally, I feel uncomfortable with things like musk and musk_cloud, but people keep forgetting to tag that and I have to add it myself.

And I'm pretty sure we all know that the "humanoid" tags are ALL widely misused, and we probably need a better word for what it's supposed to convey.

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Shaded.

It’s like if people assume shading is the default.

Its tag what you see, so you tag the presence of shading, not the absence of it. Unshaded isn’t a thing. So please tag the shading. thank you.

Large genitalia. Blacklisted the following:
big_balls
big_breasts
big_penis

I don't mind a little extra length and girth, but it feels like furry dicks are an average of 8+ inches. Dicks going up to people's chests just is not my thing at all. I like more realistic or "reasonably" proportioned parts. Honestly probably why I am into kemonoshota the most lol. But the young tag also suffers from that problem too, but mostly with the adult characters.

I also commonly see breasts not being out on applicable posts, but it does not bother me nearly as much.

Gender tags often slip through the radar despite being one of the most important things TO tag. People still mistag their trans characters [which I am frequently wanting to see] so I have to fix that occasionally.

I also see a lot of anthro/human/etc on feral mistagged, completely leaving out the most contentious tag presumably because they don't want their art to be labeled bestiality. I don't like that tag name either [especially for talking creatures like dragons], but it is pretty important for blacklisting.

Inconsiderate users who post nothing but images of muscular males and overweight males repeatedly failing to tag muscular_male and overweight_male respectively.

3d_(artwork) and 3d_animation are undertagged. Going through recent uploads, I regularly have to add it to posts including some that are otherwise very well tagged, even having blender_(software), blender_cycles, blender_eevee, even digital_media_(artwork). I also go through the artist's (and sometimes the uploader's) other posts and often find they have many others that aren't tagged either. Really bugs me as I have 3d_(artwork) on my blacklist. Most of my post changes are just adding that tag.
On the subject of blender_(software), it is technically massively mistagged. De jure it applies to posts containing the Blender logo or UI. De facto it applies to any post made with Blender. blender_(copyright) exists to try to allow blender_(software) to be redefined but this has yet to happen. There are forum threads and BURs where it is discussed but nothing has been done. source_filmmaker is sort of the same except it might be okay since its wiki doesn't actually when the tag should be used, but the fact it is a copyright tag suggests its de jure use is not same as the de facto use. source_filmmaker_(copyright) also exists.
transparent_background is undertagged. Many posts have been tagged alpha_channel by Pup's tagbot (though not all) that ought to have transparent_background but don't. One could farm a lot of post changes by just going through alpha_channel -transparent_background.
boy_kisser_(meme) and silly_cat_(mauzymice) are frequently confused. The former is often mistagged on posts that ought to just have the latter. One could resolve this by replacing boy_kisser_(meme) on all posts that already have it with something more literally named such as you_like_kissing_boys_don't_you and making boy_kisser_(meme) an invalid disambiguation tag.

background_character. According to the wiki, it's supposed to be for images that show characters in the background (i.e. not the focus). But people are using it for nameless characters from shows who only appear in the background of scenes, but are the focus for the post it is tagged on. It doesn't help that background_character is a character tag. It doesn't bother me, but I'm sure it would bother somebody that there is a contradiction between the wiki and the posts.

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the embodiment of photorealism, realistic, and detailed. i can't really fathom the amount of times is tagged photorealism on some vtuber toony fox with disproportionately rendered genitals and decently-rendered 3D art that is just reminiscent the style of zootopia than levels of lion king remake.
detailed is also very mistagged, often referring the detailed background tag against a very-simply rendered characters without considerable detail to body or just a rough sketch.

colorful and bright colors tags as well, when character has very monotone colors and denaturation because characters has like mildly bright purple hair.

If, say, a gargoyle is not based on any particular animal yet has a snout or an otherwise animalistic facial structure, should it still be considered humanoid or just slap the anthro label on creatures like those?

Dunno if this is the appropriate topic for this, so any redirections would be appreciated!

iforgotmypassword69 said:
the young tag

i also forgot to mention that there are a lot of things tagged young for adult characters. that is probably going to cause problems for innocent artists bc the witchhunts over cub nowadays lol. it probs already did. DX And that will ultimately lead to artists taking their stuff off from here or online in general

crocogator said:
It would be nice if people could remember to tag inside and outside. People are good at tagging the things they see in a picture, but "inside" and "outside" span the entire background rather than being a "thing" in the picture, so people forget them:
-outside ~grass ~rock ~tree ~city ~fence ~sky ~bench ~snow ~night
-inside ~furniture ~sauna ~locker_room ~bathroom
-inside -outside public

I would love to see an overhaul for setting/background tags entirely. It's something I think is very useful to search for. Unfortunately there's too many blury lines right now.

buried is definitely improperly tagged. From what I can see there's some of these being used to show characters that are being facesitted on.

  • painting (artwork) - the tag name is terrible, it's intended to be for traditional paintings, but constantly has clearly digital art added to it
  • morbidly obese - overtagged, there's a whole recent thread about how using a medical term instead of something like hyper_obese was a poor choice
  • voluptuous - it's frequently used as a fluff tag, added to characters that are skinny or better suited for the hourglass figure tag, or just characters who aren't particularly curvy but have a big butt
  • vore - a character showing their gaping mouth off isn't vore
  • detailed - too non-specific and frequently used as a fluff tag for images that definitely aren't "detailed"

I'd say traditional media (artwork) is extremely undertagged, I've stumbled on countless pencil drawings that were only tagged as "sketch"

I've thought about making a thread on it for awhile, but the whole sphere of animal_humanoid, humanoid, human and the application of these to various fictional humans, human-lites, human-likes, and anthros to be inconsistent and unhelpful for someone filtering searches.

I first off want to acknowledge that yes, these are described correctly in the wiki and in the tag information, my issue is that they are both vague and something everyone already has an 'intuitive' (and inconsistent) grasp of, so much that they are applied incorrectly with a high frequency. This incorrect application is a huge problem volume-wise because of how general they are as well, far too much to even go in and try to fix actively if you wanted to for whatever reason. For animal_humanoid there's a serious lack of adhesion to it being for anime cat-girl types of characters or things that specifically look like humans, and people just tag anthros with it because they are also technically animal humanoids or have a humanoid shape. The same complaint applies to humanoid, and is perhaps even worse here.

The second part of this is that it seems to be really unnecessarily splitting hairs: I want you to look at this image. It completely dodges the human tag because of the use of "hylian", and humanoid is not a useful filter already, for example look at this image, and this one, and this one. They are all tagged humanoid! Consider this: if someone is filtering human out, do you think they wanted to see this image? Likewise, if someone is specifically searching for humans, do you think they wanted to avoid seeing this one?

I'd include more examples really, but the best example is just telling you to search animal_humanoid or humanoid on your own and browse through, doesn't matter how old or new - the problem is always there. To be fair, 'animal_humanoid' and 'humanoid' are very slick and clinical tags too, but I think they need to be changed to something clunkier and more verbose to make it actually clear what it is supposed to be, because it isn't working now and hasn't been working for god knows how long. What these could be is what I'm not sure on and why I haven't made a post, I simply don't have a good suggestion for a tag to replace these that isn't TOO insanely wordy or clunky, but I want to stress the current ones do not accomplish what they should at all - they are so muddled and misapplied that they are functionally useless.

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Pleaseletmein suggested near-human as a new name for humanoid on the discord and I love that idea. I think it would make the meaning much clearer

cloudpie said:
Pleaseletmein suggested near-human as a new name for humanoid on the discord and I love that idea. I think it would make the meaning much clearer

I agree, though I'd have it as near_human instead of near-human.

Exaggerated lips, where they look like they're having an allergic reaction to something. I don't like the trend IRL and in a drawing it quickly nosedives into uncanny valley for me. I also dislike caricature/subverting/ironic elements in general and it gives me that vibe. It would be a perfect add to my blacklist if it was tagged consistently, but people both undertag and mistag, for example thick_lips which spreads from
post #4712500 all the way to post #4713213
Obviously the line is gonna be somewhere in the middle, but there's no tag for that. There's light_lips and hyper_lips but they're barely used. I'm noticing posts tagged thick_lips when it's really puckered_lips too.

I also dislike "bolting on" humanoid lips to the end of an anthro muzzle as in
post #4711920 or post #4704981
lips_on_muzzle and beak_lips exist, but are basically never tagged and don't control for exaggeration.
thick_bottom_lip is well-tagged, but also has the latter problem.

Actually, while I'm looking at these, I'm seeing a few invalid, redundant or vague tags. Since I'm complaining I can at least do something productive.

arrow189 said:
Actually, while I'm looking at these, I'm seeing a few invalid, redundant or vague tags. Since I'm complaining I can at least do something productive.

It's always great to do something, and not just pay lip service to change (no matter how thick it may be)

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