Topic: Arousal-related tags (they need some help)

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #6527 is pending approval.

create alias extremely_aroused (46) -> aroused (15261)
create alias really_aroused (0) -> aroused (15261)
create alias sexual_arousal (0) -> aroused (15261)
create alias visibly_aroused (0) -> aroused (15261)
create alias turned_on (117) -> aroused (15261)
create alias accidental_arousal (0) -> unwanted_arousal (12)
create alias surprise_arousal (4) -> unwanted_arousal (12)
create alias aroused_by_own_farts (0) -> fart_fetish (6343)
create alias arousal_meaning_attraction (0) -> aroused_by_another (161)
create alias arousal_marker (15) -> <3 (0)
create implication unwanted_arousal (12) -> aroused (15261)

Reason: Continuation of my focused effort on improving the subject of arousal that started with erection. Because it's an underdeveloped tag subject, the cleanup seems fairly simple for the most part. There are a couple that could be combined into a single tag, and some are ambiguously TWYS or may have a proper name.
The hard part will be getting posts properly tagged.

Opinions/answers needed:

The hiding_arousal tag doesn't exist yet. What would it be for that's not already covered by covering_crotch and secretly_loves_it?

I've noticed you've created the arousal_focus tag, and I was a bit conflicted on it. On one hand, it's kind of a hot concept, but on the other hand, it's inherently a bit subjective whether "arousal" is the "focus" of a picture, especially if it ends up tagged on pictures with no dialogue (since what's going on and what the artist wants you to focus on can sometimes be more up to interpretation in those cases). I think I'm ok with the tag, but I hope it doesn't blow up and get spammed on every random aroused picture.

crocogator said:
The hiding_arousal tag doesn't exist yet. What would it be for that's not already covered by covering_crotch and secretly_loves_it?

I guess it would be essentially the same as secretly_loves_it, but not necessarily covering_crotch, because I'm trying to make a case that visible arousal doesn't always necessitate erection or wetness being pictured (or covered in this case) (and I'll find examples for this later).
I may just remove this one and get back to it later to avoid another implied_erection situation.

I've noticed you've created the arousal_focus tag, and I was a bit conflicted on it. On one hand, it's kind of a hot concept, but on the other hand, it's inherently a bit subjective whether "arousal" is the "focus" of a picture, especially if it ends up tagged on pictures with no dialogue (since what's going on and what the artist wants you to focus on can sometimes be more up to interpretation in those cases). I think I'm ok with the tag, but I hope it doesn't blow up and get spammed on every random aroused picture.

Yes, I'm also attempting to start a new tag. And I tried my best to clear up the definition of focus on the wiki page. When visible arousal is the only thing happening in the picture, I think it's safe to call that an arousal focus.
I wanted to further define arousal this way because anyone in the background of a picture popping a boner (or just really looking turned-on) at something can technically be tagged as aroused. Simultaneously, someone really enjoying getting pegged can technically be tagged as aroused, and although they may just be aroused by pegging itself, sexual contact and penetration is really where arousal becomes pleasure. Therein lies the issue with the base tag aroused.

watsit said:
Honestly, aroused seems kinda... not TWYS? A person can be aroused without any visible indication, as it's a mental state. How do you determine if a character is aroused or not, aside from a visible erection or vaginal_fluids that we already have tags for? Wouldn't arousal_focus just be penis_focus+erection or pussy_focus+vaginal_fluids?

I'm working on getting visible arousal recognized and tagged correctly, especially outside of sex. I'd argue there are various accepted visual cues that are combined with the artist's intention to indicate being aroused besides erection or crotch wetness. Exaggerated blush and expression (e.g. wavy_mouth, wide_eyed, nervous_expression), sweatdrop, <3 and <3_eyes, emanata and motion_lines (to show very sudden arousal, twitching or shaking) just to name a few.

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catskill said:
I'd argue there are various accepted visual cues that are combined with the artist's intention to indicate being aroused besides erection or crotch wetness. Exaggerated blush and expression (e.g. wavy_mouth, wide_eyed, nervous_expression), sweatdrop, <3 and <3_eyes, emanata and motion_lines (to show very sudden arousal, twitching or shaking).

That's exactly what I'm concerned about. None of those indicate arousal. A character can be flustered, nervous, surprised, like or have an attraction to something, etc, which doesn't necessitate arousal. This would all come down to the tagger's feeling or impression, a desire for the character to be aroused rather than a visible state of arousal.

watsit said:
Honestly, aroused seems kinda... not TWYS? A person can be aroused without any visible indication, as it's a mental state. How do you determine if a character is aroused or not, aside from a visible erection or vaginal_fluids that we already have tags for? Wouldn't arousal_focus just be penis_focus+erection or pussy_focus+vaginal_fluids?

Aroused is meant to be a "less severe" version of in_rut/in_heat, with the latter having a more complex and specific tagging criteria.

I guess to put it in simplest terms, arousal is your run-of-the-mill casual horniness (may also include cases of intense arousal) while in_rut/in_heat are very intense horniness to the point characters exhibit physiological & behavioural changes.

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