The bulk update request #7693 is pending approval.

create alias behaving_like_a_cat (94) -> cat_behavior (0)
create alias acting_like_a_cat (255) -> cat_behavior (0)
create alias behaving_like_a_dog (38) -> dog_behavior (2)
create alias acting_like_a_dog (96) -> dog_behavior (2)
create alias behaving_like_a_bird (6) -> bird_behavior (0)
create alias acting_like_a_bird (0) -> bird_behavior (0)
create implication cat_behavior (0) -> animalistic_behavior (0)
create implication dog_behavior (2) -> animalistic_behavior (0)
create implication bird_behavior (0) -> animalistic_behavior (0)
create alias animal_behavior (30) -> animalistic_behavior (0)

Reason: Could really go either way, but the acting like ones have better wiki pages I think. Both are tags for when characters who aren't a feral cat/dog behave like one.

The bulk update request #7694 has been rejected.

create alias acting_like_a_cat (255) -> behaving_like_a_cat (94)
create alias acting_like_a_dog (96) -> behaving_like_a_dog (38)

Reason: And alternatively, the other way around, pick your poison. Shrugs. Should be aliased one way or the other, though.

EDIT: The bulk update request #7694 (forum #401862) has been rejected by @Nimphia.

There's plenty of animal behaviors that aren't unusual to see an anthro doing. This seems rather excessive.
post #4679553 post #2663536
A cat (or cat-like or cat hybrid species) acting like a cat, being tagged as acting like a cat. There are also behaviors that are ambiguous, that multiple types of animals do.
post #4724481
Both cats and dogs get into weird sleeping positions like that, so what to tag it as?

Do we need tags for acting_like_a_<animal>? acting_like_a_bird, acting_like_a_horse, acting_like_a_human, ...?

watsit said:
There's plenty of animal behaviors that aren't unusual to see an anthro doing. This seems rather excessive.
post #4679553 post #2663536
A cat (or cat-like or cat hybrid species) acting like a cat, being tagged as acting like a cat. There are also behaviors that are ambiguous, that multiple types of animals do.

I would argue most anthros act so human-like that it's out of the ordinary to see them act animalistic in this way.

post #4724481
Both cats and dogs get into weird sleeping positions like that, so what to tag it as?

Do we need tags for acting_like_a_<animal>? acting_like_a_bird, acting_like_a_horse, acting_like_a_human, ...?

Yeah, I'm not gonna say there's no ambiguity, I was considering if there should be an "animalistic behavior" tag.

Also I'd say no, but dogs and cats are extremely common pets with different behaviors, so I think keeping them separate makes sense. But having an umbrella tag to catch the more ambiguous images might be helpful.

Also I think they're useful for petplay posts.

nimphia said:
I would argue most anthros act so human-like that it's out of the ordinary to see them act animalistic in this way.

Yeah, I'm not gonna say there's no ambiguity, I was considering if there should be an "animalistic behavior" tag.

Also I'd say no, but dogs and cats are extremely common pets with different behaviors, so I think keeping them separate makes sense. But having an umbrella tag to catch the more ambiguous images might be helpful.

Also I think they're useful for petplay posts.

If we're including named species I'd vote for acting_like_a_BURd

snpthecat said:
If we're including named species I'd vote for acting_like_a_BURd

I'm not against including birds, these two just already happened to exist haha

I'm gonna reject the second BUR since it seems like no one prefers that way around anyways and add an animalistic behavior umbrella tag, I think. If others like the bird tag idea I can add it.

Animalistic behavior can cover the more ambiguous stuff like the one Watsit pointed out, but I'd say there's still a use case for the more specific cat and dog behaviors.

The bulk update request #7694 (forum #401862) has been rejected by @Nimphia.

Having implications like that certainly creates the impression that there should be more such tags. Once people start seeing acting_like_a_* tags, they'll add them for the animals they're fond of, and given the precedent for it being on particular species like cats and dogs, it's rather arbitrary to not allow other species that have their own behavioral quirks (like foxes diving head-first into holes in the ground, spiders hanging from silk, etc).

As it is, acting_like_a_cat is getting put on several posts like
post #4301531 post #4291972 post #3873192
that are just a cat or cat-like thing doing stuff.

watsit said:
Having implications like that certainly creates the impression that there should be more such tags. And once people start seeing acting_like_a_* tags, they'll add them for the animals they're fond of.

As it is, it's getting put on several posts like
post #4301531 post #4291972 post #3873192
that are just a cat or cat-like thing doing stuff.

Some of those (though not all) are my doing (admittedly a very sleep deprived me at 3 AM) and I'll remove them. I dunno about the other concern personally, maybe someone else has thoughts.

Still, I think there's value in having a tag for stuff like:

post #4730739 post #4398258 post #16744 post #3547229

I guess I wouldn't be entirely opposed if we wanted to just alias it all into animalistic_behavior, though I'd still preferably would like a way to search for cat behavior, but it's not a hill I'm necessarily going to die on if others disagree.

Added bird to original BUR like SNP suggested since it does seem there is already a bird tag I overlooked, also added a couple more aliases I found.

I'm also not really... Opposed to people making other tags for common species-associated animal behaviors, tbh? I just included these ones because they already exist, not because I've arbitrarily decided these should be the only valid animalistic behavior tags.

nimphia said:
Both are tags for when characters who aren't a feral cat/dog behave like one.

Hunh, I guess I initially misread that and left out the "feral". I was originally interpreting the tags as being for a character who is acting like a feral cat or dog but isn't one. Like a horse being told to sit (which they do) which causes them to involuntarily wag their tail (even though horses realistically can't do that), as in Disney's Rapunzel, or a squirrel chasing after a laser pointer. Because of course a cat, anthro or not, is going to act like a cat (and a dog like a dog).

I dunno.

Animalistic_behavior seems like a good tag, though, since it's a pretty common gag to have an anthro character momentarily engage in behavior that is commonly associated with their feral real world counterpart.

clawstripe said:
Hunh, I guess I initially misread that and left out the "feral". I was originally interpreting the tags as being for a character who is acting like a feral cat or dog but isn't one. Like a horse being told to sit (which they do) which causes them to involuntarily wag their tail (even though horses realistically can't do that), as in Disney's Rapunzel, or a squirrel chasing after a laser pointer. Because of course a cat, anthro or not, is going to act like a cat (and a dog like a dog).

I dunno.

Animalistic_behavior seems like a good tag, though, since it's a pretty common gag to have an anthro character momentarily engage in behavior that is commonly associated with their feral real world counterpart.

That's just how they were originally defined (not by me), I'm not against redefining them to not include anthros of the same species and then having, say, anthro cats acting like feral cats instead just tagged as animalistic_behavior. Or scrapping all of the specific ones and just using animalistic_behavior.

The bulk update request #7724 is pending approval.

create alias behaving_like_a_cat (94) -> animalistic_behavior (0)
create alias acting_like_a_cat (255) -> animalistic_behavior (0)
create alias behaving_like_a_dog (38) -> animalistic_behavior (0)
create alias acting_like_a_dog (96) -> animalistic_behavior (0)
create alias dog_behavior (2) -> animalistic_behavior (0)
create alias acting_like_a_bird (0) -> animalistic_behavior (0)
create alias animal_behavior (30) -> animalistic_behavior (0)

Reason: Alternative proposal if we'd prefer to merge these tags. Otherwise redefining them to exclude anthros of the same species is also an option.

IMO "X behavior" sounds better, but I don't care too much about the name as long as the tags aren't aliased away

gattonero2001 said:
IMO "X behavior" sounds better, but I don't care too much about the name as long as the tags aren't aliased away

TBH yeah, x_behavior would work best if we're using animalistic_behavior. I changed the original proposal to use x_behavior.

FWIW, we're now getting stuff like post #4733345 under "acting like a cat". When the whole trope here is that the "cat" is watching TV, which is funny for being considered human behavior. Plus dogs do it too.

Also there's a bunch of posts like
post #4437796
where it's a feral feline doing it (the wiki explicitly saying it doesn't apply to feral cats doing cat things). And posts like
post #4460916 post #4699032
where it's again not cat-specific behavior (dogs can loaf and lay against each other too, as well as grab arms for attention).

They should all just be removed, IMO, as it's easy to misapply to normal expected behavior, and the line for what act is specific to what species can get very blurry or be non-existent, leading to many mistags like this.

Once again (catch phrase?), only assume that good taggers might read any such wikis and that everyone else will not and instead merely interpret the tag's correct use from its name alone. So if a tag is meant for non-ferals, then the tag name better make that clear or the tag will also get used on ferals and be correct. Right now, these types of tags are essentially "cats doing cat things" with no other restrictions.

Something like imitating_feral_behavior or just imitating_feral should better communicate a feral exclusion, if that's what people want. Just the first thing I thought of that seemed viable. If you want to break down the imitated ferals to types, we should prefer feline to cat etc, so imitating_feral_feline.

Is it good or bad that these tags logically overlap with existing tags like paw_pose and should probably be implicated by animal-based fetish roleplay like puppyplay? Did you want that association because that's where this goes. How often will taggers make a connection between "acting like a dog" and doggystyle?

abadbird said:
Once again (catch phrase?), only assume that good taggers might read any such wikis and that everyone else will not and instead merely interpret the tag's correct use from its name alone. So if a tag is meant for non-ferals, then the tag name better make that clear or the tag will also get used on ferals and be correct. Right now, these types of tags are essentially "cats doing cat things" with no other restrictions.

Something like imitating_feral_behavior or just imitating_feral should better communicate a feral exclusion, if that's what people want. Just the first thing I thought of that seemed viable. If you want to break down the imitated ferals to types, we should prefer feline to cat etc, so imitating_feral_feline.

Is it good or bad that these tags logically overlap with existing tags like paw_pose and should probably be implicated by animal-based fetish roleplay like puppyplay? Did you want that association because that's where this goes. How often will taggers make a connection between "acting like a dog" and doggystyle?

Once again need to clarify that I didn't make these tags or define them, and I myself am not fond of the current definition.

(I mostly agree with you, to be clear.)