Topic: [APPROVED] I don't like fingerless_elbow_gloves (BUR)

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

The bulk update request #8076 is active.

remove implication fingerless_elbow_gloves_only (4) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication black_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication blue_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication brown_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication glistening_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication green_fingerless_elbow_gloves (2) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication grey_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication orange_fingerless_elbow_gloves (1) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication pink_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication purple_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication red_fingerless_elbow_gloves (6) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication tan_fingerless_elbow_gloves (1) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication white_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication yellow_fingerless_elbow_gloves (2) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication monotone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication multicolored_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication fingerless_elbow_gloves (13) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
remove implication fingerless_elbow_gloves (13) -> elbow_gloves (39085)
remove alias fingerless_armwarmers (0) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)

Reason: fingerless gloves, elbow gloves, and whatever color or pattern. That's all you need for searching. These tags just contribute to an unnecessary amount of tag bloat for such a relatively niche subject.

Part 2:

alias fingerless_armwarmers -> arm_warmers
alias fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias fingerless_elbow_gloves_only -> fingerless_gloves
alias black_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias blue_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias brown_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias glistening_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias green_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias gray_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias grey_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias orange_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias pink_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias purple_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias red_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias tan_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias white_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias yellow_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias monotone_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias multicolored_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias monotone_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias rainbow_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves
alias two_tone_fingerless_elbow_gloves -> fingerless_gloves

EDIT: The bulk update request #8076 (forum #404921) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

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strikerman said:
The bulk update request #8076 is active.

remove implication fingerless_elbow_gloves_only (4) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication black_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication blue_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication brown_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication glistening_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication green_fingerless_elbow_gloves (2) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication grey_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication orange_fingerless_elbow_gloves (1) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication pink_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication purple_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication red_fingerless_elbow_gloves (6) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication tan_fingerless_elbow_gloves (1) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication white_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication yellow_fingerless_elbow_gloves (2) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication monotone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication multicolored_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)
remove implication fingerless_elbow_gloves (13) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
remove implication fingerless_elbow_gloves (13) -> elbow_gloves (39085)
remove alias fingerless_armwarmers (0) -> fingerless_elbow_gloves (13)

Reason: fingerless gloves, elbow gloves, and whatever color or pattern. That's all you need for searching. These tags just contribute to an unnecessary amount of tag bloat for such a relatively niche subject.

Part 2:

Some of the tags being aliased have other implications which'll block the second part of your BUR, going through them will take a while.

Also should fingerless elbow gloves only be aliased to fingerless/elbow gloves only, or just gloves only? Same for the [color]_fingerless_elbow_gloves, should they be aliased to fingerless_gloves or [color]_fingerless_gloves? If it's the former, are we dismantling [color]_fingerless_gloves too?

Oh and there's a typo which got an implication tree, fingeless elbow gloves only

Edit: And it seems your part 2 didn't include aliasing away fingerless elbow gloves, which is 1 of the 2 things in the followup BUR that wouldn't have been hit with a BTR

Updated

The bulk update request #8095 is active.

remove implication fingerless_elbow_gloves_only (4) -> fingerless_gloves_only (74)
remove implication black_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> black_elbow_gloves (2121)
remove implication black_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> black_fingerless_gloves (1229)
remove implication blue_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> blue_elbow_gloves (176)
remove implication blue_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> blue_fingerless_gloves (47)
remove implication brown_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> brown_elbow_gloves (20)
remove implication brown_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> brown_fingerless_gloves (243)
remove implication glistening_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> glistening_elbow_gloves (82)
remove implication glistening_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> glistening_fingerless_gloves (4)
remove implication green_fingerless_elbow_gloves (2) -> green_elbow_gloves (76)
remove implication green_fingerless_elbow_gloves (2) -> green_fingerless_gloves (60)
remove alias gray_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> grey_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0)
remove implication grey_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> grey_elbow_gloves (37)
remove implication grey_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> grey_fingerless_gloves (18)
remove implication orange_fingerless_elbow_gloves (1) -> orange_elbow_gloves (24)
remove implication orange_fingerless_elbow_gloves (1) -> orange_fingerless_gloves (8)
remove implication pink_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> pink_elbow_gloves (170)
remove implication pink_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> pink_fingerless_gloves (30)
remove implication purple_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> purple_elbow_gloves (279)

Reason: I underestimated how many lingering implications there were

EDIT: The bulk update request #8095 (forum #405032) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

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The bulk update request #8096 is active.

remove implication purple_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> purple_fingerless_gloves (70)
remove implication red_fingerless_elbow_gloves (6) -> red_elbow_gloves (258)
remove implication red_fingerless_elbow_gloves (6) -> red_fingerless_gloves (66)
remove implication tan_fingerless_elbow_gloves (1) -> tan_elbow_gloves (6)
remove implication tan_fingerless_elbow_gloves (1) -> tan_fingerless_gloves (3)
remove implication white_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> white_elbow_gloves (802)
remove implication white_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> white_fingerless_gloves (39)
remove implication yellow_fingerless_elbow_gloves (2) -> yellow_elbow_gloves (36)
remove implication yellow_fingerless_elbow_gloves (2) -> yellow_fingerless_gloves (9)
remove implication monotone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> monotone_elbow_gloves (81)
remove implication monotone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> monotone_fingerless_gloves (27)
remove implication multicolored_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> multicolored_elbow_gloves (265)
remove implication multicolored_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> multicolored_fingerless_gloves (122)
remove implication rainbow_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> multicolored_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4)
remove implication rainbow_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> rainbow_elbow_gloves (30)
remove implication rainbow_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> rainbow_fingerless_gloves (8)
remove implication two_tone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> multicolored_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4)
remove implication two_tone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> two_tone_elbow_gloves (174)
remove implication two_tone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> two_tone_fingerless_gloves (102)
remove implication fingeless_elbow_gloves_only (0) -> elbow_gloves_only (87)

Reason: There's like, a lot a lot

EDIT: The bulk update request #8096 (forum #405034) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

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snpthecat said:
Some of the tags being aliased have other implications which'll block the second part of your BUR, going through them will take a while.

Oh and there's a typo which got an implication tree, fingeless elbow gloves only

Edit: And it seems your part 2 didn't include aliasing away fingerless elbow gloves, which is 1 of the 2 things in the followup BUR that wouldn't have been hit with a BTR

Ty very much for the callouts, all that should be resolved now.

snpthecat said:
Also should fingerless elbow gloves only be aliased to fingerless/elbow gloves only, or just gloves only? Same for the [color]_fingerless_elbow_gloves, should they be aliased to fingerless_gloves or [color]_fingerless_gloves? If it's the former, are we dismantling [color]_fingerless_gloves too?

I've been mulling over whether that would be too aggressive, but that was my plan. fingerless_gloves + [color]_gloves should be more than suitable.

The bulk update request #8098 is active.

create alias fingerless_armwarmers (0) -> arm_warmers (12524)
create alias fingerless_elbow_gloves (13) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias fingerless_elbow_gloves_only (4) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias black_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias blue_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias brown_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias glistening_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias green_fingerless_elbow_gloves (2) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias gray_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias grey_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias orange_fingerless_elbow_gloves (1) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias pink_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias purple_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias red_fingerless_elbow_gloves (6) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias tan_fingerless_elbow_gloves (1) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias white_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias yellow_fingerless_elbow_gloves (2) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias monotone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias multicolored_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias monotone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias rainbow_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias two_tone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias shiny_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)

Reason: Let's lay this beast to rest

EDIT: The bulk update request #8098 (forum #405042) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

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Why kill fingerless_elbow_gloves itself? It's just one tag that makes it more convenient than typing both separately.

waydence said:
Why kill fingerless_elbow_gloves itself? It's just one tag that makes it more convenient than typing both separately.

There's a certain point where combo tags become excessive.

strikerman said:
The bulk update request #8098 is active.

create alias fingerless_armwarmers (0) -> arm_warmers (12524)
create alias fingerless_elbow_gloves (13) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias fingerless_elbow_gloves_only (4) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias black_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias blue_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias brown_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias glistening_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias green_fingerless_elbow_gloves (2) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias gray_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias grey_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias orange_fingerless_elbow_gloves (1) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias pink_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias purple_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias red_fingerless_elbow_gloves (6) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias tan_fingerless_elbow_gloves (1) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias white_fingerless_elbow_gloves (3) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias yellow_fingerless_elbow_gloves (2) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias monotone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias multicolored_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias monotone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias rainbow_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias two_tone_fingerless_elbow_gloves (4) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)
create alias shiny_fingerless_elbow_gloves (0) -> fingerless_gloves (38455)

Reason: Let's lay this beast to rest

EDIT: The bulk update request #8098 (forum #405042) has been approved by @Rainbow_Dash.

RIP two-tone_fingerless_elbow_gloves, you will be missed

Anyway does anyone object to having the fingerless gloves and elbow gloves tag pruned of their incoming implications? Or would that be far too aggressive to have them reduced down to [adjective]_gloves + fingerless/elbow_gloves

waydence said:
Why kill fingerless_elbow_gloves itself? It's just one tag that makes it more convenient than typing both separately.

obviously we have nothing better to do

waydence said:
Why kill fingerless_elbow_gloves itself? It's just one tag that makes it more convenient than typing both separately.

because excessively specific hybrid tags like this are why posts are starting to hit the 2k tag limit.

dba_afish said:
because excessively specific hybrid tags like this are why posts are starting to hit the 2k tag limit.

Today I learned...

Also, it's too late now, but I do wonder why the colors and such weren't aliased to the respective *_fingerless_gloves tag instead of just fingerless_gloves itself. Not a huge deal since they already implied them so all the relevant posts had the tag already, but still a bit odd.

nimphia said:
Today I learned...

Also, it's too late now, but I do wonder why the colors and such weren't aliased to the respective *_fingerless_gloves tag instead of just fingerless_gloves itself. Not a huge deal since they already implied them so all the relevant posts had the tag already, but still a bit odd.

I believe the original plan was to alias those too, but thought better than to expend the effort

alphamule

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strikerman said:
Reason: fingerless gloves, elbow gloves, and whatever color or pattern. That's all you need for searching. These tags just contribute to an unnecessary amount of tag bloat for such a relatively niche subject.

Makes sense. Been trying to use tags like green_gloves in those cases, instead of green_4-fingured_gloves_with_red_tips_and_on_a_monday. SNPtheCat mentioned the green_fingerless_gloves issue as well.

strikerman said:
Reason: I underestimated how many lingering implications there were

:Grin:

hjfduitloxtrds said:
obviously we have nothing better to do

Man, that would have been funnier if NMNY said it.

I like the hybrid tags when they let me automatically do several implications, but then I usually have no use for them after that. Oh well... TBF, I've been going through tags added by IKYM and the other 2 usual suspects and cleaning them up.

CoffeeCo

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hjfduitloxtrds said:
So it's easier to tag both fingerless_gloves and elbow_gloves rather than simply tagging fingerless_elbow_gloves? This will only further contribute to the problem of tag bloat, along with making searching more difficult.

It's actually the opposite.
It's weird that I am saying this, but for example rainbow_fingerless_elbow_gloves implied multicolored_fingerless_elbow_gloves, which implied fingerless_elbow_gloves.
So now 1~3 meaningless tags are gone from every post due to this BUR.

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coffeeco said:
It's actually the opposite.
It's weird that I am saying this, but for example rainbow_fingerless_elbow_gloves implied multicolored_fingerless_elbow_gloves, which implied fingerless_elbow_gloves.
So now 1~3 meaningless tags are gone from every post due to this BUR.

but now searching fingerless_elbow_gloves returns results for fingerless_gloves but not elbow gloves, which makes it more difficult to filter search results. Also (color)_fingerless_elbow_gloves should have been aliased to (color)_fingerless_gloves instead of every color fingerless_elbow_gloves aliased to just fingerless_gloves. would have been better that way. Either way, it's a disprovement rather than an improvement, and for what? to get rid of ONE EXTRA TAG on each post...

CoffeeCo

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hjfduitloxtrds said:
but now searching fingerless_elbow_gloves returns results for fingerless_gloves but not elbow gloves, which makes it more difficult to filter search results. Also (color)_fingerless_elbow_gloves should have been aliased to (color)_fingerless_gloves instead of every color fingerless_elbow_gloves aliased to just fingerless_gloves. would have been better that way. Either way, it's a disprovement rather than an improvement, and for what? to get rid of ONE EXTRA TAG on each post...

If a person wants to see fingerless_elbow_gloves, they can use fingerless_gloves elbow_gloves.
Same goes to colors,
fingerless_gloves elbow_gloves pink_gloves will show you the same result as pink_fingerless_elbow_gloves.

I wasn't happy with this BUR actually, but I'm also sure not many people look up for *_fingerless_elbow_gloves. And if they want to do so for some reason, they can use a combination of 2 or 3 tags.

hjfduitloxtrds said:
change purely for the sake of change, which does not actually help anyone at all

We've already established it's for the sake of cleanup in tag lists so that people can more easily find what they're looking for without getting bogged down by clutter.

I'm going to be honest, your comments in these past several threads have not been particularly constructive

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