The tag alias #70559 pee_desperation -> omorashi is pending approval.

Reason: While it is Japanese, "omorashi" is the more established term for the fetish. The reverse has already been rejected (topic #41155).

I'm really not a fan of these japanese tag names. to me it feels like they add an unnecessary layer of obfuscation for no real reason.

I think omorashi is one of those rare cases (bukkake, ahegao, etc.) where the Japanese word is used way more frequently than the English translation.

faucet said:
I think omorashi is one of those rare cases (bukkake, ahegao, etc.) where the Japanese word is used way more frequently than the English translation.

honestly, I don't see the purpose of bukkake either. it seems close enough to cum_covered that the two are more or less indistinguishable.

dba_afish said:
honestly, I don't see the purpose of bukkake either. it seems close enough to cum_covered that the two are more or less indistinguishable.

Because Bukkake is what the fetish is classed on many sites from Rule 34 all the way to Pornhub just like Ahegao is just Orgasm Face but is more known as Ahegao

fuyu_graycen said:
Because Bukkake is what the fetish is classed on many sites from Rule 34 all the way to Pornhub just like Ahegao is just Orgasm Face but is more known as Ahegao

we shouldn't be doing stuff just because some porn sites do it. especially when most porn sites also have mostly to near totally non-functional tag searching functions.

we really should only be using loanwords like this when there's no way to describe something concisely in english.

I'd say flip it. I can never remember how these are supposed to be tagged...
Bukkake can stay, mostly because there's no good equivalent in English.

I dunno who decided that the "desperate to pee" fetish should be called "omorashi", but that's straight up wrong lol

In Japanese the word simply means wetting. Pixiv uses the おしっこ我慢 tag for "pee-holding".

I agree with Genjar that omorashi should be aliased away (however, I'd alias it to wetting) and that an english term should be used. I think a good english tag for it would be pee_holding, since the word desperation is too subjective term.

delian said:
So, I dunno who decided that the "desperate to pee" fetish should be called "omorashi", but that's straight up wrong lol

It's not the first or last word to be borrowed from Japanese that's given a different meaning. See also hentai, which essentially just means pervert, but to English speakers has come to mean adult anime and manga. Or anime and manga, which literally mean just animation and comic respectively (Spongebob is an anime and Superman is a manga, to Japan), but to English speakers they mean certain types of Japanese-style animation and comics.

delian said:
The word literally means "peeing"

おしっこ oshikko and 放尿 hounyou are different words than お漏らし omorashi, so I'm not sure why you mentioned them. As far as I'm aware, お漏らし omorashi just means "wetting"*, so it's still "wrong" (wetting ≠ pee holding), but also see Watsit's comment.

^{* Looking it up on a native online dictionary, Weblio defines it as 小便を漏らすことをいう幼児語 ("a children's term to express leaking urine").}

crocogator said:
おしっこ oshikko and 放尿 hounyou are different words than お漏らし omorashi

Ah, I knew I was doing something wrong, I copied the wrong word! Also, the term is badly translated on pixiv (both おしっこ and お漏らし are "peeing"). I'll edit my previous post.

watsit said:
It's not the first or last word to be borrowed from Japanese that's given a different meaning.

That makes sense. However, I'd still argue against using it because, unlike ahegao or bukkake, it's a false friend.

Bumping because I was about to suggest the same. Just chiming in as someone who is into this, that this is very commonly used and widespread term used for kink content surrounding accidental wetting and piss desperation. People who are looking for this are very likely to be looking up omorashi rather than pee despration (just the fact that one is on 55 posts, and one is on 3k posts gives you an idea of what term people gravitate towards). And in any case, the alias would redirect the few outliers to the right place anyways.

rupikonna said:
Bumping because I was about to suggest the same. Just chiming in as someone who is into this, that this is very commonly used and widespread term used for kink content surrounding accidental wetting and piss desperation. People who are looking for this are very likely to be looking up omorashi rather than pee despration (just the fact that one is on 55 posts, and one is on 3k posts gives you an idea of what term people gravitate towards). And in any case, the alias would redirect the few outliers to the right place anyways.

Though being an alias, it could just as well be flipped, and people using/tagging/searching/blacklisting omorashi will work exactly the same, only that the words pee_desperation will appear next to posts instead. Part of the problem with using borrowed terms like this is that the meaning can change over time (see again: hentai, which originally meant pervert (and still does to the Japanese), but since English-speakers have borrowed it, has shifted over the decades to mean adult japanese art/animation to us). And regardless of how wide-spread it is, there will be people that have never heard of the term, and/or misunderstand it, causing that shift as more people misunderstand it.

I'd still much rather flip this and establish a desperation tree
(I'm also into this and yes it is an extremely widely used term, but still, the alias will redirect people... desperation is more descriptive for newcomers who may not have heard of this before)

Flip a coin: heads alias omorashi -> pee_desperation, tails alias pee_desperation -> omorashi