The bulk update request #8499 is pending approval.

remove alias lolicon (0) -> loli (31355)
remove implication loli (31355) -> young (240855)
remove implication loli (31355) -> female (2585143)
remove implication oppai_loli (547) -> loli (31355)
remove alias straight_shota (0) -> shota (37449)
remove alias shotacon (0) -> shota (37449)
remove implication shota (37449) -> young (240855)

Reason: Lolis and Shotas are characters who appear to be young. They may be young, they may not be, but with TWYS they should be tagged young regardless, so these tags are redundant with young_female and young_male being present.

Removing existing aliases and implications. New aliases and implications below.

(I'm aware of the discussion in topic #44684, but figured a separate thread would be better since this covers both loli and shota)

The bulk update request #8500 is pending approval.

create alias loli (31355) -> young_female (39254) # has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through BUR
create alias oppai_loli (547) -> busty_young (0) # has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through BUR
create alias lolidonk (1) -> bottom_heavy_young (0)
create alias adult_on_loli (5) -> adult_on_young (12571)
create alias older_on_loli (68) -> older_on_young (2694)
mass update feral_penetrating_loli -> young_penetrated
create alias lolidom (26) -> dominant_young (2407)
create alias lolifur (0) -> young_female (39254)

Reason: Loli BUR

todo after unalias/unimply:
alias lolicon -> young_female

The bulk update request #8501 is pending approval.

create alias shota (37449) -> young_male (46156) # duplicate of alias #70962; has blocking transitive relationships, cannot be applied through bur
create alias older_on_shota (65) -> adult_on_young (12571)
create alias adult_on_shota (0) -> adult_on_young (12571)
create alias shotadonk (0) -> bottom_heavy_young (0)
create alias shota_raped (30) -> rape (48431)
create alias shota_penetrating (0) -> young_penetrating (1397)

Reason: Shota BUR

todo after unalias/unimply:
alias straight_shota -> young_male
alias shotacon -> young_male

There are already a couple of ideas and AIBURs on what to do with them
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]

dirtyderg said:
create alias feral_penetrating_loli (20) -> feral_penetrating_young (0)

I think this should target feral_penetrating or young_penetrated instead, to avoid the more specific mixed-form actions (there's already a BUR to alias away <form>_penetrating_<gender> and <gender>_penetrating_<form>, I don't think we want to start legitimizing <form>_penetrating_<age> and <age>_penetrating_<form>).

watsit said:
I think this should target feral_penetrating or young_penetrated instead, to avoid the more specific mixed-form actions (there's already a BUR to alias away <form>_penetrating_<gender> and <gender>_penetrating_<form>, I don't think we want to start legitimizing <form>_penetrating_<age> and <age>_penetrating_<form>).

Makes sense to me. I've made it an update to young_penetrated since that's generally a more contentious tag then feral_penetrating (e.g. feral_penetrating_feral)

I'm crossposting my reply from the original thread to here.

The problem with this is that the shota and loli tags are ONLY for sexually explicit or suggestive pictures- in fact, then-staff members had added that condition years ago, here and here. Conversely, the young tag and its gendered variants encompasses all ratings and situations. In fact, in a way, the reverse should be happening: the shota and loli tags should be implicated to young, and also to young_male and young_female, respectively.

Of course, it can be argued that the shota and loli tags could be effectively replaced with searches for "young -s", "young_male -s", etc, as it would give the same results. However, I believe it is reckless to just scrap long-established tagging methodology and toss all sexualized cub/young into the same pool and make everyone have to enter an additional search term to find it. I was also vehemently opposed to the cub -> young aliasing that happened not long before the 12 July catastrophe, but this would probably be even more disruptive.

PS: Also, what exactly are transitives and how are they thwarting the process?

roketsune said:
PS: Also, what exactly are transitives and how are they thwarting the process?

(afaik) Transitives are existing relationships (aliases, implications, pending requests). They need to be removed for the new relationship to be implemented.
For example alias oppai_loli -> busty_young won't go through because oppai_loli implicates loli currently, so you first have to remove that relationship before you can alias it away.

I could not find any other thread to reply to this topic so ish will here. Yes, young stuff is a bit out of the box. Honestly, I find it no harm if it's make believe and animated. But you may have different opinions. Nevertheless it's up to the site. I say let it ride.

xylocaine said:
I could not find any other thread to reply to this topic so ish will here. Yes, young stuff is a bit out of the box. Honestly, I find it no harm if it's make believe and animated. But you may have different opinions. Nevertheless it's up to the site. I say let it ride.

I think you may have misunderstood the title of this thread.

lendrimujina said:
I think you may have misunderstood the title of this thread.

Granted there's a trend of titles being a bit hyperbolic and if you take them at face value...