Topic: Forced โ‰  unwilling

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I would like to propose a distinction between the tags "unwilling" and "forced". Here's the reason: often many posts labeled as forced are actually subs who like to be treated badly. You can tell by their smile or ecstasy in being dominated in an extreme way. Personally, I like forced sex, or rape, and I don't understand why you decided to direct the word unwilling to forced. They are two very distinct concepts, even a simple caress can be unwilling. Unwilling simply means that the other person doesn't want it, regardless of the amount of suffering they will have to endure. Forcing simply means that they can't escape, they are overwhelmed by the dominator's strength, but it doesn't mean that they don't like this condition. The word abuse and the word rape in the vast majority of cases lead to posts of a pedophilic nature, not that I don't like that too, but it's simply not the only thing I'm looking for. Please fix this, I'm not capable and I don't understand these technical things. Thanks.

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artexplorer said:
Unwilling simply means that the other person doesn't want it

You almost word-for-word described the use of forced on this site:

This tag refers to any work in which a character is made to do something they do not want to do by another character. The unwanted action can be either sexual or nonsexual.

Perhaps you're looking for rape_play?

tarrgon said:
You almost word-for-word described the use of forced on this site:
Perhaps you're looking for rape_play?

Sorry I don't understand what's your point precisely.
I simply asked for a distinction between forced and unwilling, rape_play is currently just a subset of forced. Forced currently shows both consensual forced art and non consensual forced art. This makes me think that e621 meaning of forced is a physical forcing not necessary also an emotional forcing. If what I'm trying to say is still not clear let me know. There is no problem for me to explain further.

artexplorer said:
Sorry I don't understand what's your point precisely.
I simply asked for a distinction between forced and unwilling, rape_play is currently just a subset of forced. Forced currently shows both consensual forced art and non consensual forced art. This makes me think that e621 meaning of forced is a physical forcing not necessary also an emotional forcing. If what I'm trying to say is still not clear let me know. There is no problem for me to explain further.

forced on images where it's actually consensual (and visually consensual, not just description or dialogue) is a mistag. rape_play is not a subset of forced, and does not imply it.

scth said:
forced on images where it's actually consensual (and visually consensual, not just description or dialogue) is a mistag. rape_play is not a subset of forced, and does not imply it.

Ok thank for your answer.
Then there are way to many mistakes and mistags then. Forced is just a misleading tag. Almost 40% of forced posts are actually consensual, you can tell, as I previously said, by blush of the subs, eiaculation of the subs, absence of tears or sadness, ecstatic expression, absence of physical opposition etc. in my opinion, a solution for this would be to stop redirecting unwilling to forced because currently forced means just physical violence, but willingness is another thing, as I said earlier, a character could be unwilling even just by staying near another character, even though no physical contact is occurring.

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artexplorer said:
Ok thank for your answer.
Then there are way to many mistakes and mistags then. Forced is just a misleading tag. Almost 40% of forced posts are actually consensual, you can tell, as I previously said, by blush of the subs, eiaculation of the subs, absence of tears or sadness, ecstatic expression, absence of physical opposition etc. in my opinion, a solution for this would be to stop redirecting unwilling to forced because currently forced means just physical violence, but willingness is another thing, as I said earlier, a character could be unwilling even just by staying near another character, even though no physical contact is occurring.

I totally agree with you ๐Ÿ‘

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Donovan DMC

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Using a sockpuppet account to agree with your own proposal after you get banned is cringe

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