Implicating legwear → clothing
Link to implication

Reason:

Legwear is clothing.

Related implications:

• legwear -> clothing - (OP approved)
• dress -> clothing (approved)
• footwear -> clothing (approved)
• gloves -> clothing (approved)
• jacket -> clothing (approved)
• jumpsuit -> clothing (approved - forum #141149)
• pajamas -> clothing (approved)
• skirt -> clothing (approved - forum #150157)
• necktie -> clothing (pending) - see forum #160762
• suit -> clothing (forum #152288) (denied - forum #150157)
• business_suit -> suit or clothing (approved - forum #150157)
• bow_tie -> clothing (pending) - see forum #160762
• sweater -> clothing (approved)
• cloak -> clothing (approved)
• robe -> clothing (approved)
• cape -> clothing (approved)
• poncho -> clothing (approved)
• hat -> clothing (tentative) (pending) - see forum #160762

• sombrero -> hat (approved)

• shoes -> footwear (approved)
• high_heels -> shoes (forum #151221) (pending) - see forum #160762
• boots -> shoes (or possibly just footwear)(pending) - see forum #160762
• socks -> footwear (pending) - see forum #160762
• sandals -> footwear (approved)
• geta -> footwear (approved)

• cowboy_boots -> boots (approved)
• high_heeled_boots -> boots (pending), high_heels (pending) - see forum #160762
• knee_boots -> boots (pending) - see forum #160762
• thigh_boots -> boots (pending)

• thigh_high_boots -/> boots (pending), legwear (pending) - see forum #160762
• striped_legwear -> legwear (approved)

• knee_socks -> socks (approved), legwear (approved - forum #138342)
• stirrup_socks -> socks (approved)
• thigh_socks -> socks (approved), legwear (denied - socks implies this already)
• toeless_socks -> socks (approved)

Related aliases:

• Alias: thigh_high_boots -> thigh_boots (pending) - see forum #160762
• Alias: thigh_high -> thigh_highs (approved - forum #155209)
• Alias: thigh_high_socks -> thigh_socks (approved)
• Alias: thighband -> thigh_band (approved)

Edit (Jan 30) - I'm actually not sure what to do with thigh_highs. We have thigh_boots and thigh_socks, but it can really refer to either.

Edit (April 2 has it really been that long?) - Added a few more as per forum #156360

Misc. related implications referenced here

Edit (June 3): Moved pending discussion to forum #160762

A couple of implications I brought up in the past:

• jumpsuit -> clothing
• bodysuit -> clothing

Another one I realized while checking my list:

• pajamas -> clothing

Furrin_Gok said:
A couple of implications I brought up in the past:

• jumpsuit -> clothing
• bodysuit -> clothing

Another one I realized while checking my list:

• pajamas -> clothing

Bodysuit is actually already implied to clothing. The others aren't though; I'll add them to the list.

parasprite said:
Bodysuit is actually already implied to clothing. The others aren't though; I'll add them to the list.

...This is why I like that fuzzypickle actually takes the time to post in the thread if it's been accepted or denied.

Furrin_Gok said:
...This is why I like that fuzzypickle actually takes the time to post in the thread if it's been accepted or denied.

+1 to this

parasprite said:

• boots -> shoes

Boots should imply footwear, not shoes.

Durandal said:
Boots should imply footwear, not shoes.

I've always considered them a specific type of shoe, but as long as it ends up with footwear, I suppose it doesn't matter.

Couple more:
geta -> footwear
sandals -> footwear

Genjar said:
Couple more:
geta -> footwear
sandals -> footwear

Thanks, I've added these to the list.

necktie -> clothing
bow -> clothing
suit -> clothing (already added)

TheGreatWolfgang said:
necktie -> clothing
bow -> clothing
suit -> clothing (already added)

Added necktie and suit.

Bow isn't going to work because it has several meanings: bows on presents, bow as a weapon that shoots arrows, bow/stern for boats (unlikely), bow for playing a violin, "bending at the waist in that polite sort of way", etc.

Hair_bow and tail_bow have a better chance of working, but I'm not sure if things like ribbon_bondage will get in the way since it isn't always cloth or really meant to be worn as clothing, but just sort of improvised.

parasprite said:
Added necktie and suit.

Bow isn't going to work because it has several meanings: bows on presents, bow as a weapon that shoots arrows, bow/stern for boats (unlikely), bow for playing a violin, "bending at the waist in that polite sort of way", etc.

Hair_bow and tail_bow have a better chance of working, but I'm not sure if things like ribbon_bondage will get in the way since it isn't always cloth or really meant to be worn as clothing, but just sort of improvised.

Well we have bowtie for the clothing version and bow_(weapon) for the weapon.

Using bow -bowtie -bow_(weapon) we could clean up the rest quite easy and implicate bowtie, hair_bow and tail_bow to clothing.

DragonFox69 said:
Well we have bowtie for the clothing version and bow_(weapon) for the weapon.

Using bow -bowtie -bow_(weapon) we could clean up the rest quite easy and implicate bowtie, hair_bow and tail_bow to clothing.

Tail_bow might have issues theoretically, but after looking through them it doesn't actually seem to be the case. Hair_bow looks safe, so as long as we consider these clothing it could easily be added. It feels more like an accessory to me, as if we were implicating necklace to clothing or something (but maybe that's just me).

Bow_tie added though.

parasprite said:
Added necktie and suit.

Bow isn't going to work because it has several meanings: bows on presents, bow as a weapon that shoots arrows, bow/stern for boats (unlikely), bow for playing a violin, "bending at the waist in that polite sort of way", etc.

Hair_bow and tail_bow have a better chance of working, but I'm not sure if things like ribbon_bondage will get in the way since it isn't always cloth or really meant to be worn as clothing, but just sort of improvised.

Yeeah, I've seen that bow is being misused(according to the wiki).

*bow in presents: lets just leave it.
*bow as a weapon: is bow_(weapon).
*bow as for boats: seems invalid, just remove bow from bow boat.
*bow for musical: seems invalid, just remove bow from bow musical_instrument.
*bow as in a polite way: is bowing.

Hair bow and tail bow be also implicated with bow.
Bow be implicated with ribbons.

I think we will just let bow be both for presents and for hair/tail(wiki needs to be changed).

TheGreatWolfgang said:
Yeeah, I've seen that bow is being misused(according to the wiki).

*bow in presents: lets just leave it.
*bow as a weapon: is bow_(weapon).
*bow as for boats: seems invalid, just remove bow from bow boat.
*bow for musical: seems invalid, just remove bow from bow musical_instrument.
*bow as in a polite way: is bowing.

Hair bow and tail bow be also implicated with bow.
Bow be implicated with ribbons.

I think we will just let bow be both for presents and for hair/tail(wiki needs to be changed).

The issue isn't that we can't clean up bow as we can do that fairly easily and there are even already tags for all of these meanings. The issue is that we can't implicate bow to anything without any sense of reliability. For instance, if we implicated bow to ribbon, someone could easily stumble across a post with a nude character carrying a bow and arrow and wonder why they can't remove the ribbon tag and assume it is a bug.

We could probably implicate hair_bow and tail_bow to it to simplify cleanup, but we couldn't implicate anything else from there.

(wiki needs to be changed).

I'll do a write-up based on this thread later today (after class). I'm thinking there are not a whole lot of options for us but to leave it as mostly hair/tail/present bows and just do regular minor cleanups on it, and I'll write the wiki with that in mind.

*bow for musical: seems invalid, just remove bow from bow musical_instrument.

Believe it or not, but we already have a tag for it with a surprising amount of posts: bow_(stringed_instrument) (presumably an artifact of previous cleanups)

parasprite said:

Believe it or not, but we already have a tag for it with a surprising amount of posts: bow_(stringed_instrument) (presumably an artifact of previous cleanups)

Yeah, I noticed. But those solo bow tags on bow musical_instrument are not included.

Isn't this what disambiguation pages are for...?

Durandal said:
Isn't this what disambiguation pages are for...?

At this moment I'm leaning towards using bow as the pseudo-disambiguation page and pulling anything out that can fit elsewhere since we don't have a whole lot of options. Ideally I'd like to be able to move as much out as possible and get some of the hair and tail bows tagged, but unless we have a solid plan it's going to be a bit messy (and even then it probably still will be).

The issue is that if a "bow made out of ribbon" isn't in hair/on a tail/on a present, we don't have another place to put it. I mean we could come up with a tag like ribbon_bow or something, but to me that just seems like a huge effort for such a large (yet minor) tag. I mean we could technically use bow_(disambiguation) or something, but not only have we never tried that on this large of scale before, but we still don't have a clear idea of what tags would be moved where.

parasprite said:
I mean we could come up with a tag like ribbon_bow or something.

I was thinking the same way but taggers are just going to put bow instead. So I thought of just letting bow be both for presents and for hair/tail, mainly to support the noun with "a knot tied with two loops and two loose ends, used especially for tying shoelaces and decorative ribbons."

Alright, done. The definition could probably use some work but this should cover most things it's tagged as atm.

Do you think implicating hair_bow, tail_bow, and possibly bow_tie to bow would be a good idea?

parasprite said:

Do you think implicating hair_bow, tail_bow, and possibly bow_tie to bow would be a good idea?

Yeah, it's a bow.

Just bringing this back up.

tuxedo -> clothing

(or should we just alias tuxedo with suit?)

TheGreatWolfgang said:
Just bringing this back up.

tuxedo -> clothing

(or should we just alias tuxedo with suit?)

Tuxedo technically refers to just the jacket, but it rarely comes by itself so is often a reference to the entire outfet. There are a couple common subtypes (business_suit, zoot_suit, etc.) so I'm not sure an alias would be entirely desirable.

On the other hand, I doubt people who tag tuxedo or even just suit can tell the difference between any of these, so maybe we should just imply them all to suit and hope for the best. :P

Something like this:

• clothing
• suit
• business_suit
• tuxedo
• zoot_suit
• Others?

There's also a lot of related ones like zero_suit, jumpsuit, and catsuit which aren't what most would consider a "suit" in the formal sense, but should probably be grouped somehow.

I don't know what to do with those other "suits" but I think we should leave them be. (thought of grouping them with custome)

Anyway, found another one,

assless_chaps alias to chaps then implicated with clothing.

More proper to remove the "assless".

TheGreatWolfgang said:
I don't know what to do with those other "suits" but I think we should leave them be. (thought of grouping them with custome)

Anyway, found another one,

assless_chaps alias to chaps then implicated with clothing.

More proper to remove the "assless".

+1 for alias: assless_chaps -> chaps

They are definitely the same thing.

Just bumping in again, I hope you didn't forget about this since you can implicate them youself now, parasprite!

Looks like nobody's objecting to these implications and alias. Anybody who has any opinions, please comment as this is a tag discussion.

I want to add some more to the pile.

implicate,
sweater -> clothing
cloak -> clothing
robe -> clothing
cape -> clothing(as a piece of garment, it's considered a clothing)
poncho -> clothing
sombrebo -> hat -> clothing (becuase 'hat' is known as an article of clothing thatis worn on the head)

TheGreatWolfgang said:
Just bumping in again, I hope you didn't forget about this since you can implicate them youself now, parasprite!

Looks like nobody's objecting to these implications and alias. Anybody who has any opinions, please comment as this is a tag discussion.

I want to add some more to the pile.

implicate,
sweater -> clothing
cloak -> clothing
robe -> clothing
cape -> clothing(as a piece of garment, it's considered a clothing)
poncho -> clothing
sombrebo -> hat

Added these to the list. :)

hat -> clothing (becuase 'hat' is known as an article of clothing thatis worn on the head)

Unsure about this, but probably.

I'm going to be going through the pending aliases/implications with pickle as soon as I've got some time to really sit down and work on them; probably within the next week or so.

parasprite said:
There's also a lot of related ones like zero_suit, jumpsuit, and catsuit which aren't what most would consider a "suit" in the formal sense, but should probably be grouped somehow.

Also, flight_suit.

Jumpsuit would be a good general term.
Also see: coveralls, the kind of jumpsuit a mechanic or plumber would wear