Topic: What's a good place to get criticism ?

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So I'm back for a week or two, after which I'll have to go back to work. This time I try to work with photo references for the general pose and proportions. Trying to get a hang of the human figure to combat that "flat" feeling you were talking about. Hopefully this will help me improve.
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The face is pretty good, and everything is in the right place, but it really shows that the bottom half of the picture is fairly rushed. I like it though.

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Tangent said:
The face is pretty good, and everything is in the right place, but it really shows that the bottom half of the picture is fairly rushed. I like it though.

By bottom half you mean the V shape made by the thighs? Yeah wasn't too sure how to draw that correctly, nor how to shade it properly. I guess that's one thing I'll have to improve, I'll try to redo that using the references.

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Armadax said:
By bottom half you mean the V shape made by the thighs?

It all looks 'correct', just sloppy. The hips should be more wide and naturally curved. Also, take note of the thigh_gap tag.

I should probably say as well that I can't really call this a critique, more an observation. And I have a bit of a bunnygirl bias too...

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Tangent said:
It all looks 'correct', just sloppy. The hips should be more wide and naturally curved. Also, take note of the thigh_gap tag.

I should probably say as well that I can't really call this a critique, more an observation. And I have a bit of a bunnygirl bias too...

She's sitting with her legs together, I think the v shape is what makes you think otherwise. If I'm not mistaken, you shouldn't see a thigh gap in that case, since the legs are covering it.
Not sure what you mean about the hips, though. Surely I've seen girls with narrower hips than that. I tried to be as close as possible to my model regarding proportions, perhaps I messed up a bit on the curviness, though.

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Doing TONS better on the shading/depth aspects. Brain is pretty much fried from the Hippocampus argument and long days though, so sorry I can't really provide much else as critique.

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Here is my latest one:
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Is your brain still fried or can you provide some sort of critique for this one :p

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Does she have shiny skin? The glare spots reflecting light make me think she's just covered in rubber or latex or something like that. Same with the dick- did not know you could blind with a non-laserdick. :P

Uhm... Leaving the wrist ending in a fade-off without hand on the image itself when there's nothing "important" behid it to be shown (like how sometimes in hentai the one on top is faded out to show you the action beneath) seems a bit lazy, and is a distracting point for the eye. If you didn't want to draw the other hand, would have put the arm further up on the doberman's body, so it looks like she is perhaps reaching for his nipples to tweak them, or something; even aving it come underneath his dick to cup and fondle his balls, or maybe for some implied anal fingering- basically, get it out of the shot without showing that you're lazy about it. :P

it looks a LOT better with colour than with greyscale; can't find any real faults in your colouring from a consumer's point of view. I think your art style's just better suited to colour than to greyscale, or it could be personal preference. *shrug*

That's... really about it. I mean, I actually had to push myself to find things to criticize. For the most part, I actually really like it and don't see anything to really critique about it.

Oh, yeah- remember to parent the coloured version to the greyscale.

EDIT: regarding the previous image, the eye thrugh the hair thing looks a bit sloppy, especially with part of the eye being visible outside the hair, and with the lines overlapping like they do it looks like the eye is drawn atop the hair. I'd argue it'd almost be better to split the hair some and have just afraction of the eye visible, rather than do it that way, but that could be personal preference talking.

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123easy said:
Does she have shiny skin? The glare spots reflecting light make me think she's just covered in rubber or latex or something like that. Same with the dick- did not know you could blind with a non-laserdick. :P

Uhm... Leaving the wrist ending in a fade-off without hand on the image itself when there's nothing "important" behid it to be shown (like how sometimes in hentai the one on top is faded out to show you the action beneath) seems a bit lazy, and is a distracting point for the eye. If you didn't want to draw the other hand, would have put the arm further up on the doberman's body, so it looks like she is perhaps reaching for his nipples to tweak them, or something; even aving it come underneath his dick to cup and fondle his balls, or maybe for some implied anal fingering- basically, get it out of the shot without showing that you're lazy about it. :P

it looks a LOT better with colour than with greyscale; can't find any real faults in your colouring from a consumer's point of view. I think your art style's just better suited to colour than to greyscale, or it could be personal preference. *shrug*

That's... really about it. I mean, I actually had to push myself to find things to criticize. For the most part, I actually really like it and don't see anything to really critique about it.

Oh, yeah- remember to parent the coloured version to the greyscale.

EDIT: regarding the previous image, the eye thrugh the hair thing looks a bit sloppy, especially with part of the eye being visible outside the hair, and with the lines overlapping like they do it looks like the eye is drawn atop the hair. I'd argue it'd almost be better to split the hair some and have just afraction of the eye visible, rather than do it that way, but that could be personal preference talking.

I was thinking of something along the line of oil or lube for the breasts and penis, ie something that would make the rubbing softer and more pleasant. That and I think it helps give volume to all of it. Of course it shouldn't be shiny like that considering it's all covered in fur (except the dick), but you know, you can see tattoos or blushing through it in many other pictures, so I guess that's no big deal :p
The part about being lazy is spot on. I thought about resizing the canvas to cut off that part of the arm but I felt as if it was lacking something. Now that I think of it, it would actually have improved the piece.
Also yeah, I guess I should go straight for color next time, seeing as it would actually take less time.
For the previous image, yeah I didn't think about changing the hair, but I felt the eyes made it all better, so I chose the lesser of two evils.
Thanks for the CC!

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Seeing tattoos that aren't hair dye, or smoothskin "fur" (ie unfurred, painted-on look) furries, is mostly just laziness- Take a look at the best images, the ones that make everyone wow, and you see that they have that level of detail. Note that when you're not a pro like Strype and them are, it's understandable to do the smoothskin look because doing fur is HARD and time-consuming. Some people also have specific art styles that can do away with the realistic style, and they have their own huge followings too. :)

Blushing through fur is a bit more forgivable simply because it's hard to illustrate what blushing means intrinsically to the human brain otherwise- and can be forgiven for species where you can see the skin through the fur (mostly lightly coloured fur), or have scutes with the appropriate circulation system behind it to produce a similar reaction, or just because it's really fucking hard to get the same effect through visual media :P

The dick was mostly just a joke based on Japanese censorship with the 'laserdick' where they white it out so it looks really weird, like a lightsaber for a cock; still, I don't think I've ever seen skin that naturally glossy before. Oil or other lubricant usually leaves a more widespread coating and discolours the parts it covers, and in the case of fur usually mats it down as well.

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Well apparently people are finding other flaws in it, seeing as it has been downvoted...
I don't really see what's the problem here. Maybe it's the face?

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Armadax said:
Well apparently people are finding other flaws in it, seeing as it has been downvoted...
I don't really see what's the problem here. Maybe it's the face?

Don't use votes to gauge quality; Not here where the vote function is as varied in usage as anything else, and plenty of people just can't be arsed to click a button that does them no personal gain (like how a favourite gives them a quick link from their profile to the image). Look at the likes to get a better sense of if people like it; I'd say that it's been well recieved.

This said, the face is different, but not something I'd say is bad, per se. Just your art style.

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123easy said:
Don't use votes to gauge quality; Not here where the vote function is as varied in usage as anything else, and plenty of people just can't be arsed to click a button that does them no personal gain (like how a favourite gives them a quick link from their profile to the image). Look at the likes to get a better sense of if people like it; I'd say that it's been well recieved.

This said, the face is different, but not something I'd say is bad, per se. Just your art style.

The likes? You mean the favourites I bet :p
What do you mean by different? I'm not used to drawing snouts much so it may look weird. It'd be preferable to me if it looked the most natural possible.

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Armadax said:
The likes? You mean the favourites I bet :p
What do you mean by different? I'm not used to drawing snouts much so it may look weird. It'd be preferable to me if it looked the most natural possible.

Different from the 'usual'. Not bad, just different. *shrugs*

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Uploaded another one. I've been trying to draw males a bit more than a disembodied penis or a view down the waist.
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Two big things I noticed immediately are the woman's nipples looking weird (like they're caught in a pair of vices, flattening them) and her lack of a mouth. Some sort of action lines to indicate entry/general movement might be good, too- but that's entirely a subjective thing. Otherwise it looks fine to me.

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