Topic: Tag Alias: lifted_tail -> raised_tail

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

You can lift someones tail, but can you raise a tail thats not your own?

Updated by anonymous

Ghosti said:
You can lift someones tail, but can you raise a tail thats not your own?

Yes, in fact, you can.

raise
   /reɪz/ [reyz] verb, raised, rais·ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1.
to move to a higher position; lift up; elevate: to raise one's hand; sleepy birds raising their heads and looking about.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/raise

Updated by anonymous

ikdind said:
Yes, in fact, you can.

raise
   /reɪz/ [reyz] verb, raised, rais·ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1.
to move to a higher position; lift up; elevate: to raise one's hand; sleepy birds raising their heads and looking about.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/raise

This definition does not contradict my statement. Also, all examples are about lifting up your own appendage, and not someone's.

Updated by anonymous

It's not necessary to have two different tags that describe a very similar situation. If there's a second furry in an image (raising the first's tail or otherwise) his or her presence is covered by the other tags.

"raised_tail" doesn't necessarily imply that it's a self-sustained act. It also doesn't directly describe another figure's involvement. But It covers both situations, and other's (i.e., tail raised by a rope) quite nicely.

"raised_tail" is already being used describe the aforementioned acts (post #70807, post #75568) so we already have precedence.

Updated by anonymous

Ghosti said:
This definition does not contradict my statement. Also, all examples are about lifting up your own appendage, and not someone's.

Grammar nazi here, pointing out that you didn't make a statement. You asked a question. Of course I didn't contradict your question, because it's not possible to contradict a question.

The definition was supposed to point out that "raise" is synonymous with "lift". There are examples from the dictionary.com link which use "raise" as a verb referring to the action taken against some external object:

  • When the projection screen toppled, he quickly raised it again.
  • The sound of the bugle raised him from his bed.

Conveniently, these are for the #2 and #3 examples on dictionary.com. I originally didn't copy them into my post for the sake of brevity.

Also, dictionary.com lists "lift" as the first synonym of the verb "raise", specifically with reference to definition #1, which applies particularly to common use on this site.

Updated by anonymous

The way I currently tag is to use raised_tail when the subject is lifting his or her own tail, and use tail_lift + tail_grab when someone else is (usually yanking) the subject's tail up.

However this is resolved, be aware that both situations are very different and should have separate tags.

Updated by anonymous

My thought on the matter is that the difference between raised_tail and lifted_tail is not imeadiatly obvious to the average viewer, thus leading to tagging confusion...

I would thing raised_tail for lifting one's own tail, and raised_tail + tail_grab for the situation of yanking on someone else's tail

tail_lift/lifted_tail/etc should be aliased to raised_tail, IMO. :)

The best 'wording' I cna come up with for the act of raising someone else's tail would be, like,tail_hoist which just sounds laughably awkward. (Raise the mizzinmast! Hoist the tails!)

Updated by anonymous

Unless someone takes the responsibility of policing both tags - devoting their personal time to maintaining the separate definitions defined under each one - they're going to be mixed and polluted to a point of un-manageability .

It just isn't feasible.

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