Implicating blue_and_white -> monochrome.
Implicating green_and_white -> monochrome.
Implicating purple_and_white -> monochrome.
Implicating red_and_white -> monochrome.
Implicating orange_and_white -> monochrome.
Implicating pink_and_white -> monochrome.
Implicating brown_and_white -> monochrome.
Implicating yellow and white -> monochrome.

Reason: because it's the same as black_and_white

I vote yes.

While TECHNICALLY monochrome can be used in the sense of monochromatic, it's always been indicative of grayscale, which is by far the more well known and well used application of the term. Adding those to it while it would be true to the term monochromatic (which it is not) would not be true to the term monochrome (indicative of grayscale and black-and-white). if we did do something like this, I'd say change monochrome to monochromatic as part of the deal.

well monochromatic is this: http://e621.net/post/show/122889/
while monochrome is this: http://e621.net/post/show/128750/

i don't think we should change monochrome to monochromatic since we have very few real monochromatic pictures

123easy said:
While TECHNICALLY monochrome can be used in the sense of monochromatic, it's always been indicative of grayscale, which is by far the more well known and well used application of the term. Adding those to it while it would be true to the term monochromatic (which it is not) would not be true to the term monochrome (indicative of grayscale and black-and-white). if we did do something like this, I'd say change monochrome to monochromatic as part of the deal.

Honestly this is the first time I've heard of monochrome being used to refer to grayscale, simply because there's already a perfectly valid term to use to describe grayscale (that term being, well, grayscale).

It's something you learn when you hang around artists and filmographers too much; Grayscale is indicative of monochrome in that it is the range of black through to white, using only intensity to illustrate "colour". Thus, you get examples such as http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Grayscale_8bits_palette_sample_image.png this where it shows the grayscale tones.

TL:DR; Monochromatic images are one colour or shades of one colour, like how grayscale is black-and-white, which is all shades of black (and an absence of color). monochrome is mostly used to indicate images following the grayscale monochromatic format as in the picture linked above.

For an image, the term monochrome is usually taken to mean the same as black and white or, more likely, grayscale, but may also be used to refer to other combinations containing only tones of a single color, such as green-and-white or green-and-black.

Copypasta from wikipedia "monochrome"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monochrome

Here's what I see right now.. monochrome and monochromatic are similar, different and totally confusing, from the layman's point of view.

using either of these here is really only going to cause confusion.. especially if we use *both* of them... and things will be mistagged.

Why don't we try and come up with a more 'effective' word for the ***_and_white implications?

how about.. hm.. two_color_image? that would count for green_and_white and blue_and_white and black_and_blue and so forth.

black_and_white could instead imply grayscale.

someone with a priviledged account can go through monochrome grayscale and quickly remove monochrome from everything.

This would leave about 3000 "monochrome" images. A lot of them are grayscale, and the rest, of course, are red_and_white and blue_and_white and so forth. But someone will need to go through and tag them all. Thankfully, this really is one you can do almost entirely with tag scripting, since the thumbnail is detailed enough to show colors in most cases. :)

so!

my proposal:

Implications

blue_and_white implies two_color_image
green_and_white implies two_color_image
purple_and_white implies two_color_image
red_and_white implies two_color_image
orange_and_white implies two_color_image
pink_and_white implies two_color_image
brown_and_white implies two_color_image
yellow_and_white implies two_color_image

black_and_white implies grayscale (hell, or should this alias?)

and all other pink_and_green and blue_and black things are implied as needed.

...End goal might be to try and completly clear out monochrome, as it's too ambiguous.

but then, what to do with the *monochromatic* images that are esentially bluescale, or redscale?

Hrrmm...

well.. how about this....

a "bluescale" image is basically all one hue, with different levels of saturation/brightness/etc. So... we could call it single_hue...

that said, it'd be nice to find images based on color theme.. as a single_hue image would be.. as well as, for example: post #2499 post #36648

Soo... maybe... maybe we could add blue_theme or blue_color theme to those sorts of images, as well as to the "bluescale" drawings.

Sooo... that would have single_hue for monochromatic images in general, and single_hue blue_theme to find specific colors

AND... this would make steps towards cleaning out the color tags, so that they might be used to better indicate character colorations (perhaps via an alias of some sort.

AAAAAND.. monochrome itself can alias to.. I dunno.. grayscale probably, as a LOT of the monochrome -black_and_white images were actually black_and_white, but untagged.

What do you think?

That talk about themes is what I was talking about in the bits discussion- So that you can search for something by colour theme just as well as bits' colour.

As for the monochrome to grayscale alias- They're basically used for the same thing. Then grayscale and then the redscale/blackscale etc. images could all fit under monochromatic, no? Or they can imply monochrome as well and they can all exist under it as a metatag.

123easy said:
That talk about themes is what I was talking about in the bits discussion- So that you can search for something by colour theme just as well as bits' colour.

Yes, but it's ... yes. Just it's a lot more "feasible" to go through and pull out the 'theme' images then it is to retag all of the body color images.... it's esentially the same task, but with less clicking. And, this is.. hmm.. this is part of the puzzle. I feel better knowing that the pieces fit on both sides of the piece, rather then just the one side, if you know what I mean. A project this size we don't want to do twice, so better to try and get everything related to it figured out.. y'know? --though we were still haivng some conflicts, I think, about how aliases should chain along.

As for the monochrome to grayscale alias- They're basically used for the same thing. Then grayscale and then the redscale/blackscale etc. images could all fit under monochromatic, no? Or they can imply monochrome as well and they can all exist under it as a metatag.

here's the thing. monochrome and monochromatic are both GOOD words, but most people don't understand the meaning of them and misuse them. If we leave 'monochrom(e/atic)' as a tag, then people may continue to tag it without any regard as to the "proper" meaning. Whereas if 'grayscale' pops up on a picture made entirely of reds, someone will go "lol, no" and fix it. Hence the alias to try and adjust the issue.

true enough. Alright; I give my "easy fix" seal of approval. ;P

SnowWolf said:
Yes, but it's ... yes. Just it's a lot more "feasible" to go through and pull out the 'theme' images then it is to retag all of the body color images.... it's esentially the same task, but with less clicking. And, this is.. hmm.. this is part of the puzzle. I feel better knowing that the pieces fit on both sides of the piece, rather then just the one side, if you know what I mean. A project this size we don't want to do twice, so better to try and get everything related to it figured out.. y'know? --though we were still haivng some conflicts, I think, about how aliases should chain along.

here's the thing. monochrome and monochromatic are both GOOD words, but most people don't understand the meaning of them and misuse them. If we leave 'monochrom(e/atic)' as a tag, then people may continue to tag it without any regard as to the "proper" meaning. Whereas if 'grayscale' pops up on a picture made entirely of reds, someone will go "lol, no" and fix it. Hence the alias to try and adjust the issue.

i make some good points i approve