Topic: Tag Implication Removals: alligator, dinosaur, lizard, reptile -> scalie; dinosaur -> lizard

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

I'm not sure why these exist. If scalie refers to anthropomorphic characters of reptiles, and feral reptiles and such exist, then they don't necessarily imply scalie.

Also, dinosaurs aren't lizards, but they are reptiles.

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I suppose that's a question for the scalie fans to sort out, because I think there's room for interpretation on either side. I'm just going to say that I appreciate being able to blacklist scalie and get rid of the feral ones, too. :P

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ikdind said:
I suppose that's a question for the scalie fans to sort out, because I think there's room for interpretation on either side. I'm just going to say that I appreciate being able to blacklist scalie and get rid of the feral ones, too. :P

By the same token, I would appreciate being able to blacklist scalie and filter out everything anthro.

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you could blacklist feral if that's what's bugging you. I like being able to see all the things with scales by searching scalie, since all these things are scalie things, regardless of whether or not they're feral. and some scientists do consider dinosaurs to be early lizards, however, I do agree with removing this alias for the sake of characters such as yoshi and bowser, who are both dinosaurs.

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Looks like I've been tag-warring without realizing it. There is the inverse blacklist though. Scalie -feral as a blacklist line would, as I understand it, blacklist all scalie pictures that aren't marked as ferals.

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Technically, dinosaurs were no more reptiles than birds are. (Want to see a live dinosaur? Look at a bird.) Evidence indicates dinosaurs were warm-blooded and that many wore feathers or feather-like structures. Crocs and gators, often sited as being close relatives to dinosaurs, are actually more like really distant cousins, whereas mammals would be more like foreigners living halfway around the world.

That said, I'd leave the dinosaur -> reptile implication because that's the popular notion of what a dinosaur is, and the tags are meant to help aid searching, not necessarily be 110% accurate to science. Also, since some dinosaurs have been preserved with impressions of scales, you can probably get away with the dinosaur -> scalie implication, since the average layman associates those more than dinosaur -> feathers.

But I agree with getting rid of the dinosaur -> lizard implication. Dinosaurs weren't lizards any more than alligators, crocodiles, turtles, or snakes are.

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Clawstripe said:
Technically, dinosaurs were no more reptiles than birds are. (Want to see a live dinosaur? Look at a bird.) Evidence indicates dinosaurs were warm-blooded and that many wore feathers or feather-like structures. Crocs and gators, often sited as being close relatives to dinosaurs, are actually more like really distant cousins, whereas mammals would be more like foreigners living halfway around the world.

That said, I'd leave the dinosaur -> reptile implication because that's the popular notion of what a dinosaur is, and the tags are meant to help aid searching, not necessarily be 110% accurate to science. Also, since some dinosaurs have been preserved with impressions of scales, you can probably get away with the dinosaur -> scalie implication, since the average layman associates those more than dinosaur -> feathers.

But I agree with getting rid of the dinosaur -> lizard implication. Dinosaurs weren't lizards any more than alligators, crocodiles, turtles, or snakes are.

The reason for their "Lizard" implication is more due to their forname "Saurus" Being technical for Lizard. Like "Tyrannosaurus" being "King Lizard" and what not.

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Princess_Celestia said:
The reason for their "Lizard" implication is more due to their forname "Saurus" Being technical for Lizard. Like "Tyrannosaurus" being "King Lizard" and what not.

Which isn't exactly a good reason for an implication.

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tony311 said:
Which isn't exactly a good reason for an implication.

When have we ever Implicated for "Good" reasons. Its common knowledge, most people look at dinosaurs and think "Lizard" due to Saurus, very few people are privy to that their actually mammals and closer related to birds then lizards.

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I think the reason is probably more like "dinosaurs look like lizards." At least, most of them are drawn to resemble them because that is what has stuck in the mind of the public after Jurassic Park.

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