Cute AF!

Oh god she's so cute :3

I do really like the 20$ Patreon tier rewards though

The artists draws character he doesn't own for a monetary gain without permission, but if you pay him 20$ a month he gives you permission to draw his characters for commissions, or even for simple fanart.
That's probably the biggest piece of irony I've seen in a while

dracotay said:
Oh god she's so cute :3

But still doesn't have a clue.

Neitsuke said:
I do really like the 20$ Patreon tier rewards though

The artists draws character he doesn't own for a monetary gain without permission, but if you pay him 20$ a month he gives you permission to draw his characters for commissions, or even for simple fanart.
That's probably the biggest piece of irony I've seen in a while

Good luck finding artists who draw licensed characters who also give free reign over their OCs lol.

I do know that artists tend to be overprotective over their own art and characters ; It just gets hilarious and quite hypocrite when these same persons are telling people not to draw their characters without permission and/or a payment while they're guilty from doing the exact same thing in the first place

Take it off Ms. Secretary!

Neitsuke said:
I do know that artists tend to be overprotective over their own art and characters ; It just gets hilarious and quite hypocrite when these same persons are telling people not to draw their characters without permission and/or a payment while they're guilty from doing the exact same thing in the first place

lol the hot takes continue

Faceless companies aren't members of the fandom. When a licensed character is drawn it doesn't represent anything other than fan art in a vacuum. It means nothing. Unlike Nintendo furry artists are members of the fandom and their OCs represent them. Ocs/ sonas/ closed species are treated differently to licensed characters within the fandom because they are different. It means something different and they come with a different set of rules and it's an understanding built into the fandom itself. If you want to see it in action try to commission a high profile artist to draw a licensed character having sex with the sona of another high profile artist and see how far that actually gets you lol

It's only hypocrisy if you are comparing like things. You aren't tho and I suspect you won't find many artists who will ever agree with your take :D

I do know a bunch of artists who don't care if their characters are drawn without permission or not, ad populum wouldn't really change the fact that intellectual property is intellectual property, being self-insert or not.

I see pretty much everyone in the business of drawing IPs they don't own state that their drawings are parody (because apparently porn is considered parody) and fair use (lul) so their drawings are legally fine and safe, so even if OCs are more sentimental than faceless characters done by faceless companies, if I would add some breasts or a dick on someone's OC, I could pretty much play the same game and say it's a parody too anyway and wouldn't have to worry about any sort of repercussions, at least legally

Neitsuke said:
I do know a bunch of artists who don't care if their characters are drawn without permission or not, ad populum wouldn't really change the fact that intellectual property is intellectual property, being self-insert or not.

I see pretty much everyone in the business of drawing IPs they don't own state that their drawings are parody (because apparently porn is considered parody) and fair use (lul) so their drawings are legally fine and safe, so even if OCs are more sentimental than faceless characters done by faceless companies, if I would add some breasts or a dick on someone's OC, I could pretty much play the same game and say it's a parody too anyway and wouldn't have to worry about any sort of repercussions, at least legally

do it

I suck at drawing and I already have troubles drawing a circle in less than 15 hours, drawing anything else would result in a catastrophe. But my point wasn't to get the chance to draw OCs for free, but to point out the double standard I've noticed on that reward tier because I thought it was a hilarious detail I noticed

Neitsuke said:
I suck at drawing and I already have troubles drawing a circle in less than 15 hours, drawing anything else would result in a catastrophe. But my point wasn't to get the chance to draw OCs for free, but to point out the double standard I've noticed on that reward tier because I thought it was a hilarious detail I noticed

You underestimate the soft power artists have within the fandom when it comes to OCs or how damaging it is to your reputation if you get cheeky with them.

Drawing licensed characters come with no appreciable risk. Unauthorized use of an OC that breaks the artists rules can ruin your standing as an artist or commissioner.

The apparently no risk is because there are a ton of people drawing and taking advantage of those intellectual properties and they possibly can't go on everyone - unlike one sole artist who maybe can find one or two people drawing their characters without authorization - giving the appearance that it's perfectly fine to use someone else's property because of the very low risk of getting caught ; Like how it would be easy to shoplift camouflaged in a giant crowd and succeed, that doesn't make it that right and permissible

Again the only thing I'm seeing here is a huge double standard where artists only caring about intellectual properties when themselves are involved with it, but do not care much for anyone else's, especially bigger brands like Pokemon with the excuse of "Oh they're big so it's fine if I take advantage from them for my own benefit, everyone else does it so it's fine, right ?" I'm sure a ton of artists drawing porn of Pokemon and Disney characters does nothing to their reputation, especially when children find that kind of stuff when they search for a character on Google, absolutely no repercussion whatsoever

tsampikos said:
lol the hot takes continue

Faceless companies aren't members of the fandom. When a licensed character is drawn it doesn't represent anything other than fan art in a vacuum. It means nothing. Unlike Nintendo furry artists are members of the fandom and their OCs represent them. Ocs/ sonas/ closed species are treated differently to licensed characters within the fandom because they are different. It means something different and they come with a different set of rules and it's an understanding built into the fandom itself. If you want to see it in action try to commission a high profile artist to draw a licensed character having sex with the sona of another high profile artist and see how far that actually gets you lol

It's only hypocrisy if you are comparing like things. You aren't tho and I suspect you won't find many artists who will ever agree with your take :D

I'd be curious how the designer or team of designers who created popular Nintendo characters like Krystal or Isabelle here would respond to being shown pornographic material "fans" have created. You just assume that these people have no emotional attachment to their work because it was done for a commercial property.

It's hard to take your claim of having a deep emotional investment in your characters seriously when you are selling a license to draw them, or YCH slots for sexual art with them.

being so protectice of your own characters seems childish to me. i have a hard time believing that nobody from the animal crossing team doesn't find hentai of their game shocking or upsetting on any level. the same can be assumed for pretty much anything else that has been parodied from a pornographic perspective, so why should OCs and other forms of self expression be off limits? it comes across as petty and selfish to think it should only work one way. those people are artists too and to think that they dont care on any level is childish.

Oh damn she's so cute!

Oh wow I've had the Dress version saved since I was in 7th grade. This is perfect!