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Women's Bath 2

Sequel to Women's Bath, suggested by FennexTheFox!

Seems like Raine considers them a big deal.

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  • we're both girls. i don't care

    i've never understood why is it not a big deal (or not one at all) for some people to get naked in the presence of people of the same gender, but not the opposite :T

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  • Shingen said:
    i've never understood why is it not a big deal (or not one at all) for some people to get naked in the presence of people of the same gender, but not the opposite :T

    Because society is a bitch, and not in the good way :3

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  • Someone needs to tell Maren there is etiquette to situations like this. If you are going to make a keidran shape shifter touch your boob you should be kissing her while you do. Miss Manners teaches us that.

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  • Shingen said:
    i've never understood why is it not a big deal (or not one at all) for some people to get naked in the presence of people of the same gender, but not the opposite :T

    Because most people arent sexually attracted to the same sex, and getting aroused to someone while nude with them in a platonic setting is seen as highly indecent, even offensive in some cases. Girls in particular commune nude together cause they assume theyre all hetero. Its fine if theres nothing sexual about it.

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  • Shingen said:
    i've never understood why is it not a big deal (or not one at all) for some people to get naked in the presence of people of the same gender, but not the opposite :T

    It's called heteronormativity. It's assumed that everyone involved is purely straight (which is a pretty tenuous assumption - looking up statistics, over 36% of women have admitted to having had lesbian sexual fantasies) and so it's not considered "sexual" as it would if there were two people of different sexes.

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  • Clawdragons said:
    It's called heteronormativity. It's assumed that everyone involved is purely straight (which is a pretty tenuous assumption - looking up statistics, over 36% of women have admitted to having had lesbian sexual fantasies) and so it's not considered "sexual" as it would if there were two people of different sexes.

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    no. this doesn't answer my "question" in any way.
    if it wasn't for Noveltwin's comment before to give it some context, i'd say that it doesn't even make any sense on its own.

    Noveltwin said:
    Because most people arent sexually attracted to the same sex, and getting aroused to someone while nude with them in a platonic setting is seen as highly indecent, even offensive in some cases. Girls in particular commune nude together cause they assume theyre all hetero. Its fine if theres nothing sexual about it.

    so to the both of you:
    no. this is not really an answer to my question.

    i can completely understand that many SOCIETIES all around the world find public sexuality, including mere arousal in a public place, wrong, and they're trying to take countermeasures like separate changing rooms, toilets(?) and especially nude baths etc..
    yes, it is based on heteronormativity, because otherwise it would need to look like this:
    1. straight women
    2. straight men
    3. X times: couples of a gay man + a lesbian woman
    4. Y times: single bisexual men
    5. Z times: single bisexual women
    and it would be much more troublesome than a provisional solution of: 1. men, 2. women, however hurr durr homophobic etc it is.

    but that doesn't say anything about PEOPLE.
    why do the PEOPLE have no problem with being looked at by people of the same gender, despite that it's mostly them who would shame given person for their body? (at least from my experience)
    if it was about the fear/shame of being aroused in a public place (which is "bad"), then for example a man looking at nude women bathing should feel ashamed, not the women when they realize they're being looked at.

    i guess you could say that "people don't want to be seen naked by people who are sexually interested in them", so it wouldn't matter for a woman if she was looked at by a straight/bi man or a lesbian/bi woman... but the question remains: w h y ?

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