This again?

Also Women do not "Have two eggs" they have two OVARIES. One shouldn't attempt to be the authority on a subject when they can't even handle simple biology.

Now this is my kind of shitpost!

FoxFourOhFour said:
This again?

Also Women do not "Have two eggs" they have two OVARIES. One shouldn't attempt to be the authority on a subject when they can't even handle simple biology.

that's kind of the point of this post, people who dont understand biology trying to tell others how gender works

Rofl at all the inaccuracies in this post! Who ever made this really needs to do some real reaserch.

And honestly, why even care when it makes people happy and only person they really "hurt" is themselves. I'm not gonna argue about this because no matter what I say either of sides will yell to go check my facts.
Also, I bet 5$ this ain't gonna stay civil.

Merkins said:
1. were talking about humans
2. xxy is extremely rare and is seen as just a combination of genders

1. That was never stated in the image. The two examples are even Lions, not humans. That said, ZZ/ZW doesn't exist in lions either.
2. So? Rare or not, it exists, and it's real. People with the XXY genes have a penis and testicles, making them males, but are reported to be able to produce milk, which proves the milk "fact" wrong.

'keep it civil'
Sir, are you familiar with the internet?

There's a lot to unpack here. And on the source deviantart page. Get the popcorn.

Ben Shapiro would be proud of this shitpost.

...I'm not even gonna touch this one. Moving on.

Need I point out that other than the cute watermarked couple, who are much hotter on another image* this is one of the ugliest, worst organized, and highly trolly infographics I've seen and that's really saying something.

* post #1550422

Yarsh said:
So would you then care to share that knowledge with us and tell what's wrong with this post?

I am not an the best at biology but the determining factors of what gender people are is incredibly complex. much more so than xx, or xy. non-binary sex has been observed in mammals many times and many studies have taken place that show the non-binary nature of human sex.

I won't comment on the rest of the image, but this

You feelings are not facts.

is something every single person on Earth would do well to remember.

The best thing about this is that Maned Lionesses are a legit thing that aren't incredibly uncommon. They display both traditionally "male" and "female" lion behaviors.

Welp.

Remember cubs there are only two genders, blue and pink...Oh and purple
Remember cubs there are only three genders blue, pink and purple...oh and you can be slightly lighter or darker as well so...
...
There are only nine genders blue, light blue, dark blue, pink, light pink, dark pink, purple, light purple, dark purple and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope
Look I'll come in again

Kurai_Ookami said:
If you're gonna start flame wars at least do the research first.

"Although those "third" individuals were more commonly referred to as hermaphrodites."

True hermaphrodites in humans requires a male + female chimera (i.e. fusion of male and female zygotes in utero). Those chimeras end up with an ovary and a testi in some cases and are technically considered both sexes. And no, they don't have a fully function male & female reproductive tract for those that like that style of art. The reason there isn't a 'third sex' e.g. hermaphrodites or intersex is because those 'third sexes' aren't self propagating. In most cases they're sterile or have greatly reduced fertility either due to dysfunctional genitalia or dysfunctional gametogenesis. Further, if they're successful at reproduction, assuming they do not harbor a germline mutation(s) that caused the issue in the first place, they will have a 'normal' sexed child. This means that nature selects out this 'third sex' either by inability to reproduce or if possible selecting for 'normal' sexed offspring. That means that there isn't a 'third sex' because there is not a programmed and consistent sex system in which we have male, female, hermaphrodite in HUMANS (and to my knowledge all other mammals). In other species, yes there can be males, females, and hermaphrodites. Or JUST hermaphrodites. But we're talking humans here.

(Source 5th year Biology PhD student)

Anyone else notice they put SEMEN in white making it near impossible to read?

Kurai_Ookami said:
If you're gonna start flame wars at least do the research first.
...
Then there are men that have complete androgen insensitivity syndrome, which makes them basically immune to the chemicals in their own body that causes the development of primary and secondary sexual traits so a biological male can be born with and have all of the workings of a female.

complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS) is one of many outcomes of botched sexual development. It usually occurs because of mutations of the gene which makes sex determining-region - Y (SRY) on the Y chromosome but other similar outcomes can occur if other genes are mutated that affect the way the body produces or senses signals like androgens during development with varying impacts.

And no, "causes development of primary and secondary sexual traits so a biological male can be born with and have all of the workings of a female."

The early fetus has two sets of precursor reproductive tracts, ultimately the Müllerian duct (female) will develop into the upper 2/3s of the vagina and the uterus, while ultimately in males the Wolffian ducts will develop into the epididymis, vas deferens, and seminal vesicles. In SRY mutations individuals, the Wolffian duct do not get the proper stimulation to remain and wither away (like in females). HOWEVER, the Müllerian duct also doesn't get the proper signals to stick around and also withers away. This leaves these individuals with undescended testis (not ovaries) and the lower 1/3s of what appears to be a vagina. They lack: ovaries, uterus, and a full length vagina.

"so a biological male can be born with and have all of the workings of a female." <-

"so yeah just lots of wrong "information" here. And that's strictly from a scientific perspective" <- Not going to argue that one.

He drew the male lion with pit hair but the female one without, as if women don't grow body hair, and then proceeds to lecture about biology and talk about how feelings don't dictate facts.

Perhaps his feelings on how women "should" look had some influence on the art here?

Only 2 genders

no

Bullshit, men can lactate.
It's a medical abnormal condition galatorrhea. I love how people flip their shit over any hender discussion.

seriously tho, maybe people should actually read about human biology, chromosomes, intersex people and human sexes instead of acting like their vague knowledge about highschool's ultra simplified human biology is the absolute truth. (because it is in fact impossible to neatly put people into female and male boxes. no matter what method you try to use for sorting them, there will always be lots of people who are left outside of the box)

and also it would be nice if people at least dabbled into gender related psychology a little before writing this stuff. brains are still physical part of human body and their functionality still absolutely should be taken in consideration (fun fact! trans people's brain structure tend to resemble a lot more typical brain structure of the gender they identify as)

Sex and Gender are two separate things and need to stop being conflated.

Gender: Not touching this one because there are tons of different definitions floating around currently and it depends on the context / 'field' you're discussing. In many people's opinion, it's how one identifies themselves. For others, it can be how a 'society' defines you. If people want to talk about 'identity' then it's a different discussion.

Sex: In relation to sexual reproduction it refers to the 'body plans' that have been selected for by nature in order to produce viable (and fertile) offspring.

In mammals there are only two viable sexes - males and females. Anything that deviates too far from these 'body plans' is either sterile or has greatly reduced fertility. In terms of reduced fertility, it can be assumed that eventually whatever deviation that produces reduced fertility will not be successfully propagated through time.

If anyone has a particular question or claim they'd like to make regarding sex feel free to ask (or make a claim).
I make minimal claims about 'gender' because it's outside my field of expertise which is biology.

And this isn't to say that a hermaphrodite or an intersex person is any less a person. They shouldn't be treated poorly the same way you wouldn't treat someone with any other birth defect differently. But that's what their condition is, a defect in what is 'normal' biology of a male or female, not some new and 'special' sex.

furrrstar343 said:
Sex and Gender are two separate things and need to stop being conflated.

This still confuses me, because both translate to the exact same word into finnish, unless with sex you mean having sex.
So even if they are seperate things, we don't have words for other of the things.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241276655765684225/447923433297149952/unknown.png

furrrstar343 said:
(Source 5th year Biology PhD student)

I wouldn't call stating that you're a student a reliable reference. Though it does imply you're still learning, so I'll properly site my source
(Source:UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights)
https://web.archive.org/web/20160304071043/https://unfe.org/system/unfe-65-Intersex_Factsheet_ENGLISH.pdf

furrrstar343 said:
Not going to argue that one.

Ah you're correct. I chose the wrong descriptor and should have used appearances, not workings. The point being that the statement men can't have vaginas wasn't true.

that sure is a lot of difference between the two sexes but not gender because they are different

I know there is a lol_comments tag but is there a shitstorm_comments tag too?

At least proofread your shit, jesus.

Mairo said:
This still confuses me, because both translate to the exact same word into finnish, unless with sex you mean having sex.
So even if they are seperate things, we don't have words for other of the things.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241276655765684225/447923433297149952/unknown.png

Sex: XX vs XY or something else
Gender: Masculine/boy/man vs Feminine/girl/woman or something else

>The down votes
https://68.media.tumblr.com/77c4fe120b1a4cd7c55974776af74cb0/tumblr_oizlz0lvE61rrkahjo1_500.gif

I tried to resist commenting here but it seems that nobody has mentioned this yet. Gender is commonly said to be a cultural construct while sex is biological fact. Meaning that the number of genders and the definition of gender is set by society and varies worldwide. It may be interesting to know that in other cultures, there can be more than two genders, such as the Waria of Indonesia or the Hijra of India. In many cases, a culture may view a "third gender" as just as normal as male or female and some even legally recognize more than two genders. There are also many ancient examples of this, showing that it is not a new idea. We may have been raised in cultures that only recognize two genders and had these ideas drilled into our heads. How do we know that the Indians didn't have it right the whole time and we were wrong? It is understandable to feel uncomfortable when confronted with ideas that challenge our existing notions. Remember, cultures are constantly evolving. To the author of this piece, I challenge you to do some more research and try to zoom out a bit, look at this issue from a more broad perspective. Try and see if any of your preconceptions are wrong.

Either this is made by an idiot or we're on levels of Poe's Law yet unheard of by man.

I love the comment sections on posts like these.

Johnny_Joestar said:
You're either born with a dick or not a dick, that's the check box. Have you not checked your undies before?

that is incorrect. person's genitals can be anything between penis and vagina and sometimes person can be born without genitals at all. like i said, do research instead of pretending that the highschool biology is absolute truth

i feel like half the comment section reads and understands what they want to, and ignore the rest of the facts and information that other people are saying, and then 25% are "butt hurt feeling" children who were taught to feel and not logically think for their lives and failed at the basics of science and the common works of society, and the last 25% are smart and use full facts and knowledge that comes with years of study and research, not something you can go online and search for and claim you understand it in 10 seconds cause it most relates to them.
but what do i know from working with this subject for 4 years with animals and people.

Shana123 said:
also you're not that smart yourself please fact check yourself before commenting.
"Ovaries. The ovaries produce and release eggs (oocytes) into the female reproductive tract at the mid-point of each menstrual cycle. They also produce the female hormones oestrogen and progesterone."

Read the comment you responded to. FoxFourOhFour didn't say anything against that.

Furrin_Gok said:
Read the comment you responded to. FoxFourOhFour didn't say anything against that.

what seemed to me is that they are stating that women do not have eggs "BUT" ovaries instead, as i had taken it to be that the ovaries were not eggs (well a cluster of eggs that are produced and released) thats how it read to me, if misunderstood then my apologies.

Shana123 said:
what seemed to me is that they are stating that women do not have eggs "BUT" ovaries instead, as i had taken it to be that the ovaries were not eggs (well a cluster of eggs that are produced and released) thats how it read to me, if misunderstood then my apologies.

Fox said they don't have two eggs, but two ovaries. Nothing about no eggs at all, just that the count isn't "Two."

Furrin_Gok said:
Fox said they don't have two eggs, but two ovaries. Nothing about no eggs at all, just that the count isn't "Two."

i gave my what my understanding was and my apology, there really isn't any need to keep stating what i misunderstood and understand now -_-;

Mairo said:
This still confuses me, because both translate to the exact same word into finnish, unless with sex you mean having sex.
So even if they are seperate things, we don't have words for other of the things.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/241276655765684225/447923433297149952/unknown.png

Gender formally refers to how you gramatically refer to something regardless of whether its male or female, and how the rest of your sentence (verb endings, pronouns, determiners, etc.) should concord with it (just like with singular/plural). Hence, in "modern" english (because gramatical gender doesn't exist in english anymore), sex is what you physically are, while gender is what you expect people to refer to you as.

As far as I can tell, though, Finnish is completely gender-neutral as far as grammar is concerned (even moreso than English), which would explain why the distinction between sex and gender is even more confusing to you as it is for most people (which is already quite a lot).

Fifteen said:
Gender formally refers to how you gramatically refer to something regardless of whether its male or female, and how the rest of your sentence (verb endings, pronouns, determiners, etc.) should concord with it (just like with singular/plural). Hence, in "modern" english (because gramatical gender doesn't exist in english anymore), sex is what you physically are, while gender is what you expect people to refer to you as.

As far as I can tell, though, Finnish is completely gender-neutral as far as grammar is concerned (even moreso than English), which would explain why the distinction between sex and gender is even more confusing to you as it is for most people (which is already quite a lot).

so its a big mess? is what im getting from it @w@

FXF said:
There's a lot to unpack here. And on the source deviantart page. Get the popcorn.

Your avatar fits so well with this comment

notsome said:
He drew the male lion with pit hair but the female one without, as if women don't grow body hair, and then proceeds to lecture about biology and talk about how feelings don't dictate facts.

Perhaps his feelings on how women "should" look had some influence on the art here?

God I love when conservative weirdoes have "Facts don't care about your feelings" used against them

lewdbold said:
The best thing about this is that Maned Lionesses are a legit thing that aren't incredibly uncommon. They display both traditionally "male" and "female" lion behaviors.

Welp.

Maned lionesses are a thing? That's so cool, THE MORE YOU KNOW

Dickard said:
At least proofread your shit, jesus.

Downvoted for wanting someone to actually correct typos and grammatical errors when they're trying to argue a point. Smh.

notsome said:
He drew the male lion with pit hair but the female one without, as if women don't grow body hair, and then proceeds to lecture about biology and talk about how feelings don't dictate facts.

Perhaps his feelings on how women "should" look had some influence on the art here?

The dude has his arms in the air and the woman does not. Hard to tell if she actually has pit hair tbh. Also, spoiler: Both of them are covered in hair.

Quality shitpost

To add to all the inaccuracies in this nonsense, men actually can lactate...just putting that out there...

Fuck, I hate when people put either the direct image or a link to the artist's account and not a link to the image on the account.

{s}Anyway, I really love how they say that estrogen doesn't make you a women but don't say that testosterone doesn't make you a man.{/s} Why is it always one sided like the bathroom bs? At least for hormones, anyway. The genital thing they stated could go either way. If you're gonna say something like that, at least cover both sides and don't seem biased.

Edit: The image description helps clear things up a lot. https://cynderthedragon5768.deviantart.com/art/Hey-you-yea-you-read-this-744933131

“Don’t mind me, I’m just here to watch~“:https://m.9gag.com/gag/5459406/morons-morons-everywhere

Oh, look. An internet-intellectual with a middle schooler's understanding of biology. I also love how they always try to pretend they care about the children getting too confused, it's the exact same argument people were making about homosexuals a decade ago. Have fun being on the wrong side of history and reality ya sad cunt.

Also this looks like the kind of garbage that Roarey hack used to do.

NdG_Crimson said:
Oh, look. An internet-intellectual with a middle schooler's understanding of biology. I also love how they always try to pretend they care about the children getting too confused, it's the exact same argument people were making about homosexuals a decade ago. Have fun being on the wrong side of history and reality ya sad cunt.

I have to respectfully disagree. This whole gender identity thing will go the way of the Hippies, especially considering that Generation Z is currently a complete counter-culture to Millennial thinking. If projections are to be believed from the behavior that the oldest from Generation Z entails, then SJW ideologies will simmer, steep, and loose their traction / foothold.

I see it as there's 2 (and a half) Genders; there's male, female, and hermaphrodite (but that's a mix of the two, it's extremely rare, and it's a mutation).

I just don't like when Gender becomes a personality Zodiac, forced on everyone.

Y'know the saying "I don't care what you do, as long as it doesn't affect me"? That's what's gotten everyone's panties in a bunch. The common worry is someone rudely crusades for pronouns; But that's SJW stuff, and I don't want to base my perspective on that. But others let it and it's a formula for misguided rage on both ends... More so for the SJWs to be perfectly accurate.

Just my attempt at understanding this brave new world of artificial identity crisis.

This comment won't end a thing is the problem, this topic is bound to be debated via flaming keyboard and waste everyone's time.

Which raises the real question: Are the founders of Gender Politics... Trolls?

Bum bum bum!

Shana123 said:
i feel like half the comment section reads and understands what they want to, and ignore the rest of the facts and information that other people are saying, and then 25% are "butt hurt feeling" children who were taught to feel and not logically think for their lives and failed at the basics of science and the common works of society, and the last 25% are smart and use full facts and knowledge that comes with years of study and research, not something you can go online and search for and claim you understand it in 10 seconds cause it most relates to them.
but what do i know from working with this subject for 4 years with animals and people.

You sound butt hurt

Dickard said:
Downvoted for wanting someone to actually correct typos and grammatical errors when they're trying to argue a point. Smh.

It's because trying to argue a point with typos and grammatical errors makes you sound like an idiot. You're 'shooting yourself in the foot'.

This post mixed up sex and gender. Weird. Male and female are terms defined biologicaly by dna and body structure.

Man and woman are terms that represent imaginary social constructions we as a society use to describe to others the role we play in our lives. We made them up. They don't have to reflect our biology, it's just that we decided long ago that our biology determined who we as people can and should be, and that today we have changed our minds about that.

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Dumb science... We all know that the pee is stored in the testicles!

For anyone curious, the link might not work, but I still managed to get a hold of a big picture on the deviantart page.

https://pre00.deviantart.net/32ec/th/pre/i/2018/134/4/7/hey_you_yea_you_read_this_by_cynderthedragon5768-dcbii2z.png

Remove the sex education tag. Nothing about this is related to sex ed.

Kurai_Ookami said:
I wouldn't call stating that you're a student a reliable reference.

Dude...
That person is a 5th year student. They likely already have a degree. They're doing grad school. That is, in fact, a pretty fucking good reference. Lol

Houston_Jobo said:
Which raises the real question: Are the founders of Gender Politics... Trolls?

Bum bum bum!

Oh... oh my god...

Seriously though... this is just a shitpost... right?

I just... damn. There's so much salt in this... it's like the dead fuckin sea! Lol

I looked at something else the artist posted in response to negative feedback, explaining that they weren't referring to 'real' trans people (whatever the hell that means), and were instead referring to people who identified with made-up genders like 'fee fi fo fum,' as the artist puts it. If that's the case, I have two criticisms to make:

1: You had a really ham-handed way at going about this, if this was not meant to address 'real trans people' (known in common vernacular as trans people), because that's what this sounds like. When addressing a scientific issue your language needs to be precise.

2: This seems to me like a strawman. I can't read the artist's mind, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they just didn't know any better, but there's no credible movement to get you to adapt to pronouns other than he, she, and they. All the transgender people I know still self-identify within the gender binary so I don't see the problem.

Okay, many things here are wrong, but I'll simply only go over the one I'm able to best explain, which would be the mess that is the asexual bit. Labels such as homosexual and heterosexual are referring to sexual attraction. Someone who is asexual doesn't experience sexual attraction, which means they can't look at someone and go "Wow, they're sexy. I'd fuck them." HOWEVER, this doesn't mean they can't enjoy the act of sex itself. Some asexual people ARE sex-repulsed, and find it undesirable, but being asexual does not directly mean they don't enjoy or engage in sexual activities. Someone who is asexual can masturbate, enjoy it, and still be asexual. If they were thinking about someone while masturbating, and/or imagining sex with a specific someone while masturbating, they would not be asexual since they were sexually attracted to someone. If you want to have sex, you CAN STILL be asexual. If you want to have sex with a specific person, you CAN NOT be asexual.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

Image says:
Women have breasts. Men cannot.

Depends on what you mean by "breasts". Technically, a breast is the pectorial muscles plus everything covering it, meaning men do indeed have them. It's basically the chest's equivalent of a "buttock". Seriously, haven't you ever wondered why a bird's breast is called a breast despite birds not having breasts? Then again, "bird pecs" doesn't sound as palatable.

If you mean functioning mammaries, a man actually can grow a pair if you pump enough estrogen into him over a long enough period of time. What it should say is "men don't normally/naturally get them".

this image is super funny and im reclaiming these characters theyre trans now

Remember, kids: there are only two ways to be yourself. If you feel differently, you're wrong and bad, get back in the prescribed box.

lol whoever felt the need to point out all the typos

Can't we just stop trying to shove our opinions down each other's throats and agree to disagree?
I swear, humans are one of the most self-centered and mentally retarded species and I despise having to share a species with so many people.

Women can birth babies, and men cannot... it's not that hard people

*sips tea*
that's some spicy tea

I'm a simple gamer. I see truthetosterone, the post rating raises up.

Metallosexual said:
2: This seems to me like a strawman. I can't read the artist's mind, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they just didn't know any better, but there's no credible movement to get you to adapt to pronouns other than he, she, and they. All the transgender people I know still self-identify within the gender binary so I don't see the problem.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada

https://tr.rbxcdn.com/fc97a58a7442f0fa7e140e4ee819de5a/420/420/Decal/Png

Oh, a post on gender and sexuality? With an open comment section? Let me brew up some tea before enjoying this read.

To clear up, I'm true neutral. I really don't care, but I love to see a good fight.

they are 100% correct

If gender fluid isn't real then explain creampies.

The combination of elements that form this e6 page baffles me.
The characters sort of look good, tho, I guess?

"sex = gender" I will refer to their "feelings≠ facts" comment.words are weird. Meanings change. As of this comment, I believe sex =chromosomes. Gender= societal construct. I.e. masculine/feminine leaning.

Also, according to the "sexuality" section, Im nothing. Cause I've been attracted to people with XX and XY chromosomes, but never to Masculine types.

As a final note. I do understand the frustration. Wether someone is masculine or feminine is a tag society puts on people based on their actions or appearance. If im attracted to someone who acts, looks, sounds like a woman, and they just "say" they are a man, does that make me bi now? Short answer, no. I have no say in what you want to identify as, and you have no say in my sexuality. If I find you attractive in a straight way, and you identify as the same gender, so be it. Im still straight, you still whatever gender you wanna be.

I´m not a tumblr or reddit guy so, until now i didnt think debates like this were real.

This is honestly hilarious to read through.

I lost braincells...

can someone tell me what exactly is so wrong with this post?
im a dumb bitch, so i dont understand. i just find this odd.

I mean I kinda agree but even I know he is spewing bullshit in some areas

anioops~ said:
can someone tell me what exactly is so wrong with this post?
im a dumb bitch, so i dont understand. i just find this odd.

A lot, but the main points are:

Sex: It gets a lot of very, very basic biological facts wrong. Man can lactate, women have two ovaries (not eggs), a fertilized egg becomes an embryo, not a "baby," a period is not "the vagina bleeding," the word "testosterone" is misspelled every single time, etc.

Also, biological sex isn't binary (it's bimodal, not binary), it depends on (including, but not limited too) whether or not the individual has the SRY gene (almost always attached to the Y chromosome, but not always), whether that gene is expressed (i.e. produces the protein it codes for), whether that protein is properly absorbed, the level which are produced and absorbed, etc.

Any single attempt to reduce biological sex to a binary: e.g. "everyone is either XX or XY," "everyone either has a penis or a vagina," "everyone who has XY chromosomes will develop testicles and not ovaries," "no one with a penis naturally experiences a menstrual cycle," etc., will fail. Every single one of those statements has counter-examples. Biological sex is messy, and to attempt to erase the messiness is to ignore the facts.

Anyone with such a limited understanding of the biological facts should not be attempting to educate others on the subject.

Gender: There are no biological or natural "facts" about gender, there are only collective agreements made by societies, communities, etc. Biological sex answers questions about e.g. the chemical nature of testosterone and how it affects physical development and behavior, which are factual and objective. Gender answers questions like "which genders are allowed to wear a dress" and "what colors are masculine." The answer to those questions don't exist in nature, but rather in collective agreement.

You could /try/ to make the argument that the /best/ definition for gender is to make gender wholly determined by biological sex, but you can't argue that your system is /factually correct/ any more than you could prove a particular caste system is the "factually correct" way of assigning people roles in society.

And as it turns out, making gender entirely determined by biological sex leads to a lot of undue misery in people who feel forced into a role that doesn't suit them; I'd argue it's far better to let people pick their own damn pronouns for the sake of their happiness and mentally wellness.

Sexuality: Similar to gender, these are just labels we made up to describe things. You can argue about what the most useful way to define a label is, but you can't argue what the "correct" definition is because words are just things we invented to communicate an idea.

For example: Trying to argue that an asexual person CAN NEVER experience sexual arousal or CAN NEVER engage in a sexual activity is one way you could define "asexual"... but that would exclude a huge swath of people who experience very limited sexual arousal and for who it would be useful and validating to have access to the label to express that.

tl;dr: The people who actually understand the subject are upset because the very same dumbasses who tout "Facts, not feelings!!!" are the same one whose "facts" couldn't get them through a 6th grade biology quiz or who don't understand why "person with peenis wearing skirt?? i'm uncomfty :(" isn't a "fact" argument.

Don't get why this is so disliked it most be because of the people that think that a trans person can change their sex wich is a proof that that people don't know about the subject

alessio said:
Don't get why this is so disliked it most be because of the people that think that a trans person can change their sex wich is a proof that that people don't know about the subject

Am i the only one who really doesnt like that it says "keep it civil" in the description? Like if youre going to be blatantly transphobic you sorta gotta expect people to be upset. I dont want to see this stuff, i have transphobia blacklisted, so why is this in my feed?

Your grammar if terrible

misinformation

With no intention of adding fuel to the bonfire, after learning quite a lot about ancient Greece and other cultures overall, i came to conclusion, that most of the population is bisexual, the culture/society/upbringing plays a major role and of course, survival instinct.

Yall can hate this all you want but it wont stop it being true lmao

Just imagine the shitstorm of doxxing if this was on Tumblr.

How am i supposed to comment on this image without getting a warning? smh
seriously though, whoever made this is a pretty terrible troll. try harder

ohyesguac said:
Yall can hate this all you want but it wont stop it being true lmao

opinion related to the image = trolling ?

my respect for e621 mods is falling, its not below reddit mods or discord mods tho, not YET at least.

zer0rebel4 said:
Am i the only one who really doesnt like that it says "keep it civil" in the description? Like if youre going to be blatantly transphobic you sorta gotta expect people to be upset. I dont want to see this stuff, i have transphobia blacklisted, so why is this in my feed?

Ok dude it's not fucking "transfobia" it's the fact that a trans-female can't get pregnant.

> fully funtional testicles and penis
> fully funtional vagina

You can still have fun with them?

tsukiyomaruzero said:
Likewise, your facts lacks... Feelings

“facts dont care about your feelings” ben shapiro

tsukiyomaruzero said:
Likewise, your facts lacks... Feelings

“facts dont care about your feelings” ben shapiro

alessio said:
Ok dude it's not fucking "transfobia" it's the fact that a trans-female can't get pregnant.

The reason its transphobia is because the artist is stating that you cannot change your gender and that there are only two genders, when gender isnt binary

zer0rebel4 said:
you cannot change your gender and that there are only two genders

Which is entirely true. You cannot physically change your gender. Your gender, which is just a fancy word for "sex", is hardcoded in your DNA. You cannot simply switch out your Y chromosome for another X chromosome. There are only 2 genders/sexes. Male and female. Even hermaphrodites, something which is very rare, only have 1 set of chromosomes, those being XX, so technically they're still female despite having a penis and ovaries together.
There's only 2 genders and you cannot change them, no matter how much you wish for it or you pretend like new age science isn't totally made-up. Pills don't change your gender, surgery doesn't change your gender.
If there was a way of replacing chromosomes it would be a different story, but you cannot replace chromosomes. Stop being delusional.

ohyesguac said:
Yall can hate this all you want but it wont stop it being true lmao

cunny69 said:
Which is entirely true. You cannot physically change your gender. Your gender, which is just a fancy word for "sex", is hardcoded in your DNA. You cannot simply switch out your Y chromosome for another X chromosome. There are only 2 genders/sexes. Male and female. Even hermaphrodites, something which is very rare, only have 1 set of chromosomes, those being XX, so technically they're still female despite having a penis and ovaries together.
There's only 2 genders and you cannot change them, no matter how much you wish for it or you pretend like new age science isn't totally made-up. Pills don't change your gender, surgery doesn't change your gender.
If there was a way of replacing chromosomes it would be a different story, but you cannot replace chromosomes. Stop being delusional.

Agreed

cunny69 said:
Which is entirely true. You cannot physically change your gender. Your gender, which is just a fancy word for "sex", is hardcoded in your DNA. You cannot simply switch out your Y chromosome for another X chromosome. There are only 2 genders/sexes. Male and female. Even hermaphrodites, something which is very rare, only have 1 set of chromosomes, those being XX, so technically they're still female despite having a penis and ovaries together.
There's only 2 genders and you cannot change them, no matter how much you wish for it or you pretend like new age science isn't totally made-up. Pills don't change your gender, surgery doesn't change your gender.
If there was a way of replacing chromosomes it would be a different story, but you cannot replace chromosomes. Stop being delusional.

What is even the point of this post? Just let people live their lives the way they feel most comfortable.

Plus. i voted it up and added it to my favourites. I love stuff that makes whiney pricks crying a river. This one is the best so far. Hard to top.

I just wanna clarify that I'm not downvoting because of my opinions on the subject. I'm downvoting because the lack of proofreading and atrocious color contrast issues that make it difficult to read even at full size, which I consider to be a heavy quality issue for any infographic.

Not playing devil's advocate but...
I don't approve either the methods, ideals and responses of the man behind gender theory
And my philosophy toward gender in real life is firmly anchored to my studies of biology.
But despite agreeing on a certain extent to some of the things written, this post still isn't good, due to the bad exectution with poor visuals and grammar making it feel like if an obituary that constantly shifts between the fonts Jokerman, Ravie or Comic sans with each letter.
This isn't the place for me or everyone to talk about genders, it's an archive for anthro related art.
And I don't think this is good art.
Drawn well enough to be approved, but not worth a positive score

Y'all do understand this is satire... right?

rollingstones said:
Only 2 genders

That being yes and no

merkins said:
that's kind of the point of this post, people who dont understand biology trying to tell others how gender works

There are only 2 genders

This makes me want to sniff gasoline 10/10

"If you engage in sexual activities of any kind, you are NOT asexual"
Mind you, I myself am asexual, and damn well know it is all about the attraction, not what you choose to do and not do.
An asexual person can still have sex, it's just that they feel little-to-no sexual attraction to anyone or anything.
There's so much more wrong with this image, I could go on for a several essays' worth, but I'm sure the others before me have got it covered.

Remember, none of this is a choice. It's only about the attraction.
The gender identities are all about how the person themselves feel about their gender.

What is behind those pants and underwear of yours does NOT have to define what sex you are.
A person's biological gender can be male, but they can identify as anything else.
A person's biological gender can be female, but they can identify as anything else.

As a lot of people say, trans rights are human rights. It's about how the person themselves feel about their own gender.
If you're female and feel it's right for you to be male, go right ahead, it's how you feel deep inside.
If you're male and feel it's right for you to be female, go right ahead, it's how you feel deep inside.
Some people who identify as transgender have not yet gone through the transition. This is normally due to three things; they are not prepared for it yet, they aren't old enough yet (the minimal age to begin HRT is 16), or they do not have the money for it.

Genderfluid people are not "two genders at the same time." As the term's name implies, it's fluidity in one's gender based on how that person feels. At one point the person will feel like/identify as a female, at another point, they will feel like/identify as a male, or it could be with any other identity. It isn't limited to only female and male, it can be any other identity.

‘Keep it civil’
You say that then make the worst most scientifically incorrect and ignorant post I’ve ever seen, I literally grew up with people who thought if you yelled enough plant grew faster and child birth was painless yet this takes the fucking cake.
Edit: sent this to a mod and they defended it. 💀

To be honest this is the most BASED shit I've seen in this website.
Shout out to the artist who made this and his massive BALLS to post it in furrywokeland.

leetmaka said:
"If you engage in sexual activities of any kind, you are NOT asexual"
Mind you, I myself am asexual, and damn well know it is all about the attraction, not what you choose to do and not do.
An asexual person can still have sex, it's just that they feel little-to-no sexual attraction to anyone or anything.
There's so much more wrong with this image, I could go on for a several essays' worth, but I'm sure the others before me have got it covered.

Remember, none of this is a choice. It's only about the attraction.
The gender identities are all about how the person themselves feel about their gender.

What is behind those pants and underwear of yours does NOT have to define what sex you are.
A person's biological gender can be male, but they can identify as anything else.
A person's biological gender can be female, but they can identify as anything else.

As a lot of people say, trans rights are human rights. It's about how the person themselves feel about their own gender.
If you're female and feel it's right for you to be male, go right ahead, it's how you feel deep inside.
If you're male and feel it's right for you to be female, go right ahead, it's how you feel deep inside.
Some people who identify as transgender have not yet gone through the transition. This is normally due to three things; they are not prepared for it yet, they aren't old enough yet (the minimal age to begin HRT is 16), or they do not have the money for it.

Genderfluid people are not "two genders at the same time." As the term's name implies, it's fluidity in one's gender based on how that person feels. At one point the person will feel like/identify as a female, at another point, they will feel like/identify as a male, or it could be with any other identity. It isn't limited to only female and male, it can be any other identity.

"I'm asexual but I have sex" please, get a life dude.
Get some friends not politics.

This is really disappointing, but hate is everywhere I suppose.
My 2 best responses though: intersex people is neither fully male or fully female. (Meaning, there are more than 2 at birth sexes.)
And second: there are 47 variations of sex chromosomes. Autism, along with other disorders, usually come from these many variations. Which is why a lot, but not all (because chromosomes are not the only contribution to sex and gender), trans people are neurodiverse.

furrrstar343 said:
"Although those "third" individuals were more commonly referred to as hermaphrodites."

---BS words--

(Source 5th year Biology PhD student)

Wow. This is disgusting. You agree that intersex people exist, but that they don't count because of reasons that I will not repeat. You basically called them a freak of nature and therefore believe they shouldn't even be disgust in a conversation about "normal" sex at birth. But guess what buddy, whether you want to think about them or not, they exist. They, themselves as a living being who may or may not be able to reproduce, are neither male or female. They are intersex. That's one, two, three options there if you can count that high buddy. Welcome to *beyond 5th grade biology* it's a bit scary past elementary school, but I'm sure you'll make it just fine bud.

How can you want to be and fuck animal people and think gender is immutable?

В русском языке "женщина" это человеческая особь способная родить ребёнка. Не важно кем и как себя чувствует кто-либо, если он не может родить ребёнка то это "ОН", в противном случае "ОНА". Всё чётко, ясно и закреплено законодательно. Мы же не называем карандаш - расчёской, потому что если называть вещи не теми названиями которые устоялись - никто никого не поймёт.

NERD!!!!!!

Maybe you shouldn't be condescending if you didn't even make it through 9th grade.

hooly shit. not only is a good portion of this wrong, its just stupid (when I say male and female in this I refer to the sex characteristics)

1: males can lactate. people born with XY chromosomes can absolutely lactate. lactation is controlled by a hormone called prolactin, and while male individuals usually do not create prolactin, there are cases where they do (obesity, gynecomastia, etc). This is because before sex is determined in the womb, all fetuses technically start off as female (sexless, but, female because of the mothers own hormones). sex gets determined once a y chromosome gets activated or not, if it doesn't, then the child will gain the chromosome from their father instead of the Y. All human beings have mammary glands, males and females. however, their activation is based on hormones, not biology. obese males have been documented to lactate as fat stores estrogen, and an excess of estrogen tells the body to lactate. (source: https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/mens-health/men-lactate-prolactin)

2: sex is incredibly broad in how genitals work. babies start with all the nessecary genes to create either male organs or female organs. if a Y chromosome is activated, the clitoris elongates and the urethra travels upwards, and the clitoral hood turns into the foreskin, the vaginal orface closes (the separatory line between the balls and butthole, the perineum, is an after effect of that). if no Y chromosomes are activated, the testicles stay within the body and don't form into testicles, and migrate upwards to become ovaries, the Epididymis becomes the fallopian tubes, and the skin that would've formed the sac of the testicles tightens and becomes the outer labia. the uterus breaks down in males and eventually does not exist mostly, and takes the form of parts of the prostate (source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/)

3: X and Y arent the only chromosomes in the animal kingdom. W and Z chromosomes also exist (not in humans, but in other animals such as chickens). this means that sex as a whole is not linear, its a damn mess of things even if you see intersex peoples variations as "mistakes" (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-determination_system) you also do not need males in species to reproduce, as all asexual reproducing species are phenotypically female. take the Mexican whiptail lizards. there are no males, but there were traces of males in their genome. females have to stimulate virgin females and take on roles of male lizards to make the new mother start to lay eggs (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Mexico_whiptail)

4: "facts don't care about your feelings", what is a fact is that the majority of transgender individuals have brain matter compositions that do not specifically designate female or male brain matter compositions (dura matter is a big portion of this). this does not mean that I, a FTM, have a male brain, but I have what could be easily described as a "transgender brain". we know very, VERY little about the brain, let alone whether or not it determines gender or sexuality or anything for that matter, so we cannot just say "facts don't care about your feelings" when these "feelings" may or may not be fact, we have a lot to learn, and we cant just base our logic on what is externally seen when numerous studies are coming day and day again about things we do not know about the brain (source:https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/gender-lines-science-transgender-identity/)

in conclusion, get off your high horse. the way other people live their lives and view themselves isnt your problem. it costs nothing to be nice, but it can cost someone their life to be a dick

There's a difference between sex and gender. I didn't have gender with your mom last night.

Sorry for the immature humour

cunny69 said:
Which is entirely true. You cannot physically change your gender. Your gender, which is just a fancy word for "sex", is hardcoded in your DNA. You cannot simply switch out your Y chromosome for another X chromosome. There are only 2 genders/sexes. Male and female. Even hermaphrodites, something which is very rare, only have 1 set of chromosomes, those being XX, so technically they're still female despite having a penis and ovaries together.
There's only 2 genders and you cannot change them, no matter how much you wish for it or you pretend like new age science isn't totally made-up. Pills don't change your gender, surgery doesn't change your gender.
If there was a way of replacing chromosomes it would be a different story, but you cannot replace chromosomes. Stop being delusional.

Gender isn't just a fancy word for sex. Sex=What they were born as biologically, Gender=What one identifies as based on social/cultural differences. The idea of gender being tied strictly to sex is a modern western mentality, when all throughout histories many societies had a 3rd, 4th, or even way more genders, usually seen as being the inbetween of male/female or on the outside of the spectrum.

foxfourohfour said:
This again?

Also Women do not "Have two eggs" they have two OVARIES. One shouldn't attempt to be the authority on a subject when they can't even handle simple biology.

That's correct I think somewhere it states women have 40,000 eggs, maybe not idk.

Edit: missed a 0, it's 400,000 eggs
200,000 per each ovary

kitsyme0w said:
Totally agree with this,and I'm a femmy crossdresser(I know I'm really a male no matter how I feel,I'm not stupid)
There are two sexes and occasional intersex which is a rare anomaly.
But I do love watching people cry over this shit when they don't get their way,because well...idiots amuse me. I want to be a furry animal and I'd love to be a real female too,but tough luck,just accept reality instead of trying to force other sane people into your fantasy world.

kanyewestlover911

foxfourohfour said:
This again?

Also Women do not "Have two eggs" they have two OVARIES. One shouldn't attempt to be the authority on a subject when they can't even handle simple biology.

Or even basic grammar.

Too long; don't read lol

what the hell

dreameggsoaring said:
A lot, but the main points are:

Also, biological sex isn't binary (it's bimodal, not binary),

For sex to be bimodal there would have to be a quantitative x axis, what is that x axis? The only real argument for this would be “sex” but no biologist will argue that some males are more “male” than other nor that some females are more “female” than others. If a male is neutered, no biologists or scientist will suddenly classify them as less male. If a female has larger shoulder, we dont suddenly classify them as more male, if a male has breasts due to a biological disorder- we don’t classify them as female etc etc

Secondary sex characteristics are certainly a bimodal, but there is only 2 sex phenotypes that are possible in humans, that being male and female, thus only two sexes. This applies to intersex people too who do not fall out of that definition either, all intersex people are born male or female, they cant be both since sex in humans in antagonist (even then it’d just be an organism with both sexes, not a third)

Biological sex is binary even though there is a rainbow of sex roles

I find it funny that people claim that sex and gender are entirely separate then usually always end up contradicting themselves on that statement.

Discover the homophobia tag, laugh my ass off and wake the cat. Big breath...

The whole concept of people not being allowed to have the medical freedom to take hormones is unAmerican, as unamerican as being forced to donate blood to your relatives is, oh wait you cannot be forced to do that. Testosterone boosters are something you can't trip on your keyboard on a google search bar, and not find.

A person without hormones isn't human male or female to you then? This problem comes up in sci-fi occasionally, how do you program a robot to recognize a human? Some of them are blind, some of them wear full body paint, some of them have no legs. Some of them can't walk despite having legs. Some of them are mute. A baby has no hair and no adam's apple. So you probably have to have a list of factors that add up to 600% if you want to fail within safety parameters. An aging 60 year old with about as much testosterone as a 3 year old girl hasn't stopped being a male, he is what he says he is.

Are we being the pants police now? Do you propose we check everyone's genitals before we're allowed into the bathroom? Do you want to have a man standing at the ladies bathroom demanding to see down their pants or up their skirts? Sounds like something you are explicitly trying to avoid, isn't it? Fucks sake.

~no pit hair or eyebrows, huge lashes for the lioness? You need some therapy mate. Have you HAD the birds and bees talk?

"Trans isn't genderfluid" no imma screenshot that one line and you failed transphobia, because you're right, a trans man will NEVER BE A LADY. That is a fact of gendered brain scans, of a decade of science, and yer mom Im pretty sure voted for Obama, so you're completely right all the time you are saying those three words with your nose physically touching a mirror. No other times are you right.

Anyways, I'm turning into a pumpkin, sneerin at idiots has been a productive battle against the nightmare that never stops 0u0

Tootles

It costs zero dollars and zero cents to respect your fellow human being. If that cost is still too high for you, get off of the computer, go outside, and touch the little green things on the ground.

someone should post all of the edits of this thing

foxfourohfour said:
This again?

Also Women do not "Have two eggs" they have two OVARIES. One shouldn't attempt to be the authority on a subject when they can't even handle simple biology.

Ova are often called egg cells. Ovum is a Latin word that translates into egg in English.
Your point is as meaningless as me correcting you for saying sperm instead of spermatozoa.

big_gay said:
It costs zero dollars and zero cents to respect your fellow human being. If that cost is still too high for you, get off of the computer, go outside, and touch the little green things on the ground.

Every person of every political orientation/belief system loves saying that about people who aren't them.
It's a meaningless thing to say.

biblioholic93 said:
Discover the homophobia tag, laugh my ass off and wake the cat. Big breath...

The whole concept of people not being allowed to have the medical freedom to take hormones is unAmerican, as unamerican as being forced to donate blood to your relatives is, oh wait you cannot be forced to do that. Testosterone boosters are something you can't trip on your keyboard on a google search bar, and not find.

A person without hormones isn't human male or female to you then? This problem comes up in sci-fi occasionally, how do you program a robot to recognize a human? Some of them are blind, some of them wear full body paint, some of them have no legs. Some of them can't walk despite having legs. Some of them are mute. A baby has no hair and no adam's apple. So you probably have to have a list of factors that add up to 600% if you want to fail within safety parameters. An aging 60 year old with about as much testosterone as a 3 year old girl hasn't stopped being a male, he is what he says he is.

Are we being the pants police now? Do you propose we check everyone's genitals before we're allowed into the bathroom? Do you want to have a man standing at the ladies bathroom demanding to see down their pants or up their skirts? Sounds like something you are explicitly trying to avoid, isn't it? Fucks sake.

~no pit hair or eyebrows, huge lashes for the lioness? You need some therapy mate. Have you HAD the birds and bees talk?

"Trans isn't genderfluid" no imma screenshot that one line and you failed transphobia, because you're right, a trans man will NEVER BE A LADY. That is a fact of gendered brain scans, of a decade of science, and yer mom Im pretty sure voted for Obama, so you're completely right all the time you are saying those three words with your nose physically touching a mirror. No other times are you right.

Anyways, I'm turning into a pumpkin, sneerin at idiots has been a productive battle against the nightmare that never stops 0u0

Tootles

Why should taxpayer money be diverted away from starving children in third world countries to first world people who want to be the opposite sex?

jeremyjenkins8897 said:
Every person of every political orientation/belief system loves saying that about people who aren't them.
It's a meaningless thing to say.

There's an old saying I like to live by. It goes something like this:

"A Christian, a Jew, a Muslim, a Pagan, and an atheist walk into a coffee shop. And they talk, laugh, drink coffee, and become good friends. It's not a joke, that's just what happens when you're not an asshole."

If you think people of different backgrounds, belief systems, political ideologies, ect. can't coexist and get along, you're probably the problem.

jeremyjenkins8897 said:
Ova are often called egg cells. Ovum is a Latin word that translates into egg in English.
Your point is as meaningless as me correcting you for saying sperm instead of spermatozoa.

Ovaries and ovum are not the same thing.

big_gay said:
Ovaries and ovum are not the same thing.

Obviously, but can't you see that this is why they said "egg cells"?
Indeed during each menstrual cycle usually one but sometimes two ova are released from one or both ovaries.
This feels awfully like those people who ignore everything a person is saying and instead focus on their use of "there" instead of "they're".

big_gay said:
There's an old saying I like to live by. It goes something like this:

"A Christian, a Jew, a Muslim, a Pagan, and an atheist walk into a coffee shop. And they talk, laugh, drink coffee, and become good friends. It's not a joke, that's just what happens when you're not an asshole."

If you think people of different backgrounds, belief systems, political ideologies, ect. can't coexist and get along, you're probably the problem.

Name a single 100 year span of history where there hasn't been a war/conflict between the Abrahamic faiths or Pagans...
You can't, it doesn't exist.
I like your optimism though.

jeremyjenkins8897 said:
Name a single 100 year span of history where there hasn't been a war/conflict between the Abrahamic faiths or Pagans...
You can't, it doesn't exist.
I like your optimism though.

I mean, I can only really speak for my own life. I'm the only atheist of my friend group, and none of my Christian, Muslim, or Pagan friends seem to take much issue with it. Because we're not assholes.

user_22273 said:
that is incorrect. "person's genitals can be anything sometimes person can be born without genitals at all. like i said, do research instead of pretending that the highschool biology is absolute truth

user_22273 said:
that is incorrect. person's genitals can be anything between penis and vagina and sometimes person can be born without genitals at all. like i said, do research instead of pretending that the highschool biology is absolute truth

Well, technically every image in the link you gave checks one of those previously mentioned boxes. 1-3 have a dick. 4-6/7 don't. And if you don't have genitals in the first place? You still check the second box.

All this from saying "Trans women are women" like it cannot be scientifically quantified whatsoever.

It can, it has, more is being discovered yearly.

jeremyjenkins8897 said:
Why should taxpayer money be diverted away from starving children in third world countries to first world people who want to be the opposite sex?

... XD omg man, what damn tax bracket do you pretend we are all in, who can write anything in their books to be a write off? Coz at this point if the taxpayers would pay for me to get some budget knockers instead of 4 seconds of full auto fire offa wildcat gatling gun, I would donate this opportunity to my breast cancer survivor ma in law.

Full stop. This never HAS happened. Once. Private insurance barely ever covers this. TAXPAYER dollars don't cover most leg reconstruction surgeries for veterans if they are too long out of service, even if the medical technology has just been invented for it or such recently. First responder victims of 911 had no fewer than 3 bills in congress written about them, and they still can't get Uncle Sam to pay for their CHEMO they need, provably, from their time of being a national fkn hero! WHERE did you, or anyone, get the idea that the government is handing out this sorta thing like defense spending?

Really didn't want to get political here, hope factual covers it. If I get a mark thats okay, but... that was egregious echo chamber garbage.

What are you smoking, lemmie see it, *stomps viciously on it* you can quit this anytime you grow an ability to think critically and research your vitriol. There is plenty to spew out there that's actually true. Start with that, not this bull spit.

... I wish you well on your future endeavors. Better than this bucko. Better than internet crazy #12 to the right.

Only a sith deals in absolutes.

biblioholic93 said:
All this from saying "Trans women are women" like it cannot be scientifically quantified whatsoever.

It can, it has, more is being discovered yearly.

... XD omg man, what damn tax bracket do you pretend we are all in, who can write anything in their books to be a write off? Coz at this point if the taxpayers would pay for me to get some budget knockers instead of 4 seconds of full auto fire offa wildcat gatling gun, I would donate this opportunity to my breast cancer survivor ma in law.

Full stop. This never HAS happened. Once. Private insurance barely ever covers this. TAXPAYER dollars don't cover most leg reconstruction surgeries for veterans if they are too long out of service, even if the medical technology has just been invented for it or such recently. First responder victims of 911 had no fewer than 3 bills in congress written about them, and they still can't get Uncle Sam to pay for their CHEMO they need, provably, from their time of being a national fkn hero! WHERE did you, or anyone, get the idea that the government is handing out this sorta thing like defense spending?

Really didn't want to get political here, hope factual covers it. If I get a mark thats okay, but... that was egregious echo chamber garbage.

What are you smoking, lemmie see it, *stomps viciously on it* you can quit this anytime you grow an ability to think critically and research your vitriol. There is plenty to spew out there that's actually true. Start with that, not this bull spit.

... I wish you well on your future endeavors. Better than this bucko. Better than internet crazy #12 to the right.

Jesus you fucking killed him man

I don't think I've seen anyone say this yet but men can infact lactate, you just have to squeeze on the breast really hard (AND I MEAN REALLY HARD) apparently.

Very cool and informative. Thank you for this post!👍

I am not in a place to properly argue most of these points better than many of the people already here, and this has been argued with the same points over and over. I haven't taken out the full day needed to read every single comment here, so sorry if someone already said this for me.
I do have authority to speak on the asexual part. Ace people absolutely can participate in sexual activities. Some may for romantic/emotional connection, reproduction, or just for the quick dopamine release. There are also all of the gray-ace varieties though I guess they weren't specifically mentioned.

Lizardnix said:
Bullshit, men can lactate.
It's a medical abnormal condition galatorrhea. I love how people flip their shit over any hender discussion.

and men can induce lactation fairly easily with no hornones.

the hard part is the time you need to put into it, but you really only need to stimulate your nips similar to how a baby breastfeeding would.

You can tell this is bait because they mentioned asexuality as a real sexuality, quite sloppy work.
(it's also just not visually appealing, but i digress.)

The artist behind this is either hilariously bad at doing research, or is doing a parody of conservatives who claim to understand biology but trip over their own dick when it comes to basic science.

someone draw them trans now

Jeez this comment section is the epicenter of Hell.